GH and Increased Muscle Fibers

[idcbp]

Hey bros, I'm just about settled on starting a long run of gh. I see alot of posts asking how much can I expect to gain on gh, and I think these miss the point. I always figured that I could get any growth in mass and strength I was looking for much cheaper and easier with other gear than with gh. But I've always been intrigued by gh's ability to increase muscle fibers, i.e. break past genetic limitations. This is the only thing that IMO justifies the cost and hassle of gh supp.

That being said, I had planned to run kexing gh starting at 2ius for a week and then up to 3ius and possibly topping at 4ius. Here are my central questions:

1) Is 3-4 ius sufficient to stimulate muscle fiber formation?

2) How many guys recommend or don't recommend a 5 on 2 off schedule?

3) Any times of day gh vets recommend for injections (one shot or 2, morning/night etc.)

4) Do the kits provide a vial to mix the recon in and do you bros usually use this even when recon with bac water?

Finally, I'm basically ending my last cycle and going smack into a tren/sust cycle which will start about the same time as the gh. Should I start the gh before during my 2 weeks pct jumpstart to avoid catabolism, start it at the same time, or start it a week into the cycle after the gear has taken hold?

Sorry for all the questions bros, but I've been dreaming of running gh for a while now and I'm hyped. K to all who give me some help.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

1- yes
2-yes its good to save money, the longer you do it the better
3-if your doin 4ius, 2iu's at 8-9am, 2ius at 2 pm. it has a very short half, im assuming your getting up around 7 am
4- you can use the water, but use ba to make it last longer, the sterile water it will last 3 days, start the gh 2-3 weeks after you start test/tren so the test kicks in
stay on gh for atleast 6 monthes

 

[Indy]

Generally 4iu's is enough for the anabolic effects I just upped mine to 6iu's a day and it seems to work much better for me. You need to take GH in 2 shot's during the day with the best times being immediately upon waking, and then again mid afternoon. As far as the 5 on 2 off it's mostly done for cost savings of gh, and to allow a prescription to last abit longer. With that said I have spoken to a few GH experts (MDs) and for anabolic effects of GH they suggested 6 on 1 off. The one day off is to keep the pituatary gland from getting "lazy", this assures your body will still release GH to it's potential at night on when off. With that said I would start off with 2-3iu's a day broken into 2 shots, and work up to 4-6ius to combine with your AAS for anabolic effects.

How old are you and how long you plan on cycling the gh?? Age makes a big differance in if you are getting full effects of gh or just leaness if you are younger. I am 36 years old and 3 month into this GH cycle. While it's still a little early for muscle fiber growth (starts showing around month 4) it is absolutely incredible how this stuff leans you out. I am going to continue thru 6 months, take a month off, and then 6 months on again. This also was what one of the experts recommended. That month off is also to allow your pituitary to do it's job and make sure it recovers just fine.

 

[Indy]

sorry forgot one, I ALWAYS use bactosteriatic water with my gh now, will allow it to last longer if I get stuck traveling or what have you and I have a vial already reconstitued back home.

 

[Outtlaw]

1. I've run 4iu before with good results. I'd prefer to do more if I had enough.

2. If you can afford to take it ed, then I'd shoot it ed.

3. This is the agelong never ending question that will probably be debated for years to come. Use trial and error and do what works best for you.

4. The kits I use come with everything you need to mix it. I just use the water it comes with, I dont mix it until Im ready to shoot it anyways.

As far as when to start... I dont think it matters. If you have tons of gh, why not start now. BTW, most people here will recommend that you run the gh for at least 5months.

 

[idcbp]

Thanks for the inputs bros. I'm definitely gonna run the gh atleast 6 months. I doubt I'll go any higher than 4 ius. I might go with the 5 on 2 off or maybe 1 off like indy said. Mostly a money thing so we'll see. Its an interesting thing about orals releasing natural gh b/c on a dbol cycle I wake up in themorning with tingly hands that feel swollen. They say we produce our gh at night and orals like dbol stimulate this process. Is that possible? If so it might be a good idea to keep my nat. going if its already putting out a good amount.

 

[astockglausner]

GH will make your hands and feet feel swolen and very numb, it stops when use stops.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

not everyone get edema, but they really dont feel swolen they look it. Right now I could put someone in the hospital with a bitch slap. Gh is good because over 3 iu's it will make you grow new muscle fibers surpassing you genetics. Also when you use juice(test) it makes the existing muscle fibers bigger, so that combination is great. Its really good for fat burning, and spot injecting, some people get tired after injecting. 17aa thing is interesting, and there are studies that prove its b.s. and studies that comfirm it, so i say try it for urself and see if it works. Also make sure you use test with it and time it 2-3 weeks before gh so the test kicks in

 

[cbcb]

not everyone get edema, but they really dont feel swolen they look it.

Oddly, a couple of days into HGH (a really miniscule amount, under 1 unit, though I'm female) one of the main things I notice other than more stable energy is that my wrist has *stopped* being swollen and achy.. whereas it was before use.

 

[JJ22]

If you cant grow on AAS, you wont grow off HGH.