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Gay straight men.

Mags,

Hans is right. I live in Sydney, it has become the gay capital of the world, surpassing even San Fran.

Don't tell me you've never heard of the annual Sydney Gay & lesbian Mardi gras.

Sydney is very open in terms of sexuality, there are still obviously sections of the community that despise it, but in general the communities mix quite strongly.
 
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HansNZ said:



I agree totally with your comments. Because lesbian sex isn't consider unfeminine in the way that gay sex is considered unmasculine there aren't as many taboos against it. It doesn't compromise people's sense of gender identity in the same way.


Yes, but this is good reason not to predicate any pro-homo argument with the claim that gay men represent traditional masculinity to any necessarily appreciable extent. The prejudice against gay men reiterates misogyny.

To say, "I am a manly man and I don't get fucked" is, turned around, to say: "I'm not like a woman."

The feminization of gay men isn't just rooted in what we call effeminacy, it's rooted in the demeaning of penetrated women, so someone's masculinity is quite beside the point at core. Men of nontraditional masculinities should have no less status than men who pride themselves on their adoption of more traditional masculinity.

Judith Butler has analyzed this phenomenon in an interesting way, demonstrating how the naturalization of homosexuality (as an identity) has caused homosexuals to reaffirm, rather than subvert, traditional gender identities.
 
HansNZ said:
So tell me, how many of you guys who consider yourself straight have ever experimented with a guy sexually? Maybe even just a passionate kiss while drunk perhaps? Be honest now!


Nope, never done it. Do you do this often?
 
Re: Re: Gay straight men.

casavant said:



Nope, never done it. Do you do this often?

LOL! Never mind. I just read the rest of the thread. If you have a boyfriend, then I'm sure you do it quite often.

Take 'er easy.
 
HansNZ said:
You'd swear that all gay guys do is go around and stick their dicks into everything.

This seems more of a heterosexual activity. Many heterosexuals don't even define a sexual act sex unless it involves intercourse.

On the contrary, I think most heterosexuals are a lot more concerned about where they stick it. In a vagina where it was intended to be stuck for ejaculation.

As far as the definition of a sexual act, the one you mentioned is the "Bill Clinton" defintion. I'm not sure I disagree with it as far as completing the act of sex.
 
HansNZ said:

In an undistorted world perhaps homosexual urges would be strongest before and after prime reproductive periods with heterosexual impulses becoming strongest during these periods. A man having sex with a man is no more unnatural than a man having sex with a woman who isn't ovulating (which also does not lead to reproduction).

Hans, I must hand it to you, that was a great job of applying rationalization to justify behavior.

To argue your point though, you are assuming that a man would be aware of whether or not a woman was ovulating every time they had sex. A man having sex with a woman is obviously quite natural, man on man sex is clearly not.
 
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