Gay straight men.

[musclebrains]

The usual argument is that because the species depends on procreation, it's "obvious" that genital sex between the genders is "natural" whereas other forms of sex are unnatural.

In fact they are just deviations from procreative sex for the purpose of pleasure, including the pleasure of love in relationship.

Were Ttl a caveman he would have called picking up a tool unnatural because the hand is only meant for putting food in your mouth and scratching your butt.

 

[HansNZ]

To say, "I am a manly man and I don't get fucked" is, turned around, to say: "I'm not like a woman."

no no, you've misunderstood me. My b/f and I don't engage in anal sex because we think there is something wrong with it but because neither of us enjoy it.

And I don't think that anal sex is unmasculine either.

 

[musclebrains]

no no, you've misunderstood me. My b/f and I don't engage in anal sex because we think there is something wrong with it but because neither of us enjoy it.

And I don't think that anal sex is unmasculine either.

I understand that, but predicating an argument about the relative masculinity of gay men on the basis of penetration -- which I'm not saying you do -- often reiterates misogyny.

 

[HansNZ]

I understand that, but predicating an argument about the relative masculinity of gay men on the basis of penetration -- which I'm not saying you do -- often reiterates misogyny.

This is an excellent point.

It is also interesting how straight guys will talk about how gross it is to want to have sex with a guy, i.e. "having hairy balls slapping against your chin", etc, etc. Yet they seem to forget that women have sex with men all the time. They don't seem to consider that their g/fs are being gross, LOL.

Check your PM.

 

[casavant]

I gotta say, anybody that has ever spent any time on a farm or watching the Dicovery Channel should know that sex in the animal world (and hopefully all can agree that this is "natural" sex) is not always for procreation (dolphins, bonobos), nor is it always vaginal, nor is it always heterosexual.

Read up on the Etoro tribe of New Guinea sometime. There is a wide range of sexually accepted practices among the human species.

 

[kronk]

I was with a girl once, she was very young and beautiful, but it just didn't do it for me. I have never been afraid to admit that I find a beautiful who can move well to be arousing, but then I would go home with ex and swing from the chandeliers. For me it was all about the tease, but once the fantasy was fullfilled, it just didn't "do it"....

Maybe she just wasn't the right girl, tee-hee

I know what kinda girl would get you just right. I know the type, the hair, the eyes, the body, the height and the look. Throw in a cock and look out. Tee Hee

 

[CrimsonKing]

I gotta say, anybody that has ever spent any time on a farm or watching the Dicovery Channel should know that sex in the animal world (and hopefully all can agree that this is "natural" sex) is not always for procreation (dolphins, bonobos), nor is it always vaginal, nor is it always heterosexual.

Read up on the Etoro tribe of New Guinea sometime. There is a wide range of sexually accepted practices among the human species.

uh, huh, ok.. i guess we know what you are doing while you watch the 'discovery' channel...

 

[casavant]

uh, huh, ok.. i guess we know what you are doing while you watch the 'discovery' channel...

Learning to think objectively??

 

[Longhorn85]

One other thing, you use the terms "natural design" or "grand design" as if this has somehow been determined. Maybe this is based on some religious belief of yours

I'm sure that you realize it is, and I would not want to open that can of worms here either. The last time you and I debated it took several days.

 

[Longhorn85]

Oh yeah. The puzzle-maker -- namely you -- decided the penis doesn't fit in the mouth, the rectum, the hand, or an inflatable doll. All unnatural, thus spach ttlpkg, wannabe stripper (but only to ensure the procreative instinct).

I'm sure it will fit in any number of places. Just like an outlet plug will fit into many types of holes, but only one type of orafice will produce an electric current. I didn't design the puzzle, but I know how to put it together. Why is my stripper post relevant here?