Gay straight men.

[HansNZ]

I'm sure that you realize it is, and I would not want to open that can of worms here either. The last time you and I debated it took several days.

I agree we'd better not go there. But if you are a devout christian/jew/moslem, etc then that would explain why I often feel like I am hitting my head against a brick wall when debating with you. Only someone who believes that "god" somehow endorses their beliefs could be so...how should I put this....hmmm, I think i'd bettter stop right here! LOL.

 

[HansNZ]

I gotta say, anybody that has ever spent any time on a farm or watching the Dicovery Channel should know that sex in the animal world (and hopefully all can agree that this is "natural" sex) is not always for procreation (dolphins, bonobos), nor is it always vaginal, nor is it always heterosexual.

Read up on the Etoro tribe of New Guinea sometime. There is a wide range of sexually accepted practices among the human species.

I have read about New Guinea tribes too. I think it is always a good idea to expose yourself to ideas and practices that are not based upon Western assumptions of how the world works.

These cultures have been distorted a great deal since the arrival of christian missionaries and this has (inevitably) created much dysfunction in these societies. The fact that outside of Christian influence homosexuality is considered completely normal is a refreshing change from Western distortions.

 

[smallmovesal]

in some north american indian nations bisexuality is honoured greatly.

 

[Robert Jan]

Everybody just have sex with whoever the fuck they want. why even make such a big deal out of whether your gay straight bi whatever who cares?

Stop thinking so much about that.

Except I want Magdelana to get it on with ME

 

[nevertoobig]

These cultures have been distorted a great deal since the arrival of christian missionaries and this has (inevitably) created much dysfunction in these societies. The fact that outside of Christian influence homosexuality is considered completely normal is a refreshing change from Western distortions.

I doubt very much that homosexuality is or will ever be considered completely normal.

 

[Longhorn85]

I agree we'd better not go there

But Hans, ignore any religious aspect. My argument is the same about the sexual interaction of human species. Many types of intimacy are possible between a man and woman, and even people of the same sex if they have the inclination. I don't see how you can argue though, that the human body is designed to reproduce through intercourse between a man and woman, and that is the original "reason" we have sex. Even if I were an atheist and believed in evolution from apes I would feel the same because evidence abounds. Someone as obviously intelligent as you can clearly see this in nature. The fact that sexual intercourse is pleasurable only makes sense. The fact that other types of intimate contact are pleasurable does not take away from this fact.

 

[HansNZ]

But Hans, ignore any religious aspect. My argument is the same about the sexual interaction of human species. Many types of intimacy are possible between a man and woman, and even people of the same sex if they have the inclination. I don't see how you can argue though, that the human body is designed to reproduce through intercourse between a man and woman, and that is the original "reason" we have sex. Even if I were an atheist and believed in evolution from apes I would feel the same because evidence abounds. Someone as obviously intelligent as you can clearly see this in nature. The fact that sexual intercourse is pleasurable only makes sense. The fact that other types of intimate contact are pleasurable does not take away from this fact.

hmmm, Well reproduction is an essential reason of sexual activity, but so is intimacy. In any case, as a reproductive endeavour, it is only the motivation for a tiny fraction of sexual activity though. We are not meant to be rats reproducing hundreds of offspring. But I am not quite sure what your point is. You sound like you are coming around to our perspective.

Anyway, this thread has gone off topic and is more than 100 posts long so I think it is time to give it a rest.

 

[Longhorn85]

We are not meant to be rats reproducing hundreds of offspring.

But I am not quite sure what your point is. You sound like you are coming around to our perspective.

Okay, I'll quit. But I'll leave you with two thoughts:

1) Meant by whom?

2) My point is unchanged about heterosexual sex being the intent/design by whoever the answer to my first question is.

Have a nice day.

 

[68GT350]

I was married 7 years. How long were you a butt slave?

Let's remember that heterosexuality is the norm. I don't need a dick shoved in my ass to know I won't like it. Some things are best left untested.

 

[smallmovesal]

Let's remember that heterosexuality is the norm. I don't need a dick shoved in my ass to know I won't like it. Some things are best left untested.

....what about a finger or two?