Garza and anybody else who takes pleasure in poking fun at fat people...

[Kakdiesel]

You never know what youre teasing could do..look at this model..she even lost it and its sad

NEW YORK (AP) - Natasha Duncan, a plus-size model who had appeared in Seventeen and other magazines, apparently committed suicide by stabbing herself several times in the neck, police said. Duncan, 21,slashed her throat with a kitchen knife Saturday in her East Side apartment, according to police. Duncan's roommate, fellow model Johanna Edelberg, told police they were smoking marijuana when she went to listen to music in another room. When she returned to the
kitchen, she found Duncan's body, police said. Duncan was with the prestigeous Wilhelmina agency, which began its plus-size model division, catering to larger women, in 1994 Duncan had appeared in several magazines, including Mode. Duncan's family reportedly told police she had been depressed. She did not leave a suicide note.

 

[WODIN]

Now this is sad that an individual is made to feel like shit by a society of people who are striving to acheive physical perfection and then when they come up just short start beating down those who are not like them. The Crab bucket theory takes another victim.

 

[xxxratednites]

thats prety F@#$ up!!!!!!!!

 

[Kakdiesel]

what makes it worse is that she was with the modeling agency for plus size girls and doing all these jobs (seventeen, mode, etc.) but there was still a "but she's fat" stigma attached to her and she couldnt get away from that.

haunted her. and she stabbed herself in the fuckin neck...now see why I posted on that thread about Garza to not take it that far and to chill out on that?

this could happen to anybody..it just takes just a little bit to push some people over the enge

 

[booger]

I don't get it.

Are you insinuating that she killed herself because people were teasing her about being overweight? She could have been depressed for any number of reasons. The MJ might have been the trigger that pushed her over the edge.

 

[Kakdiesel]

Um, my friend in the modeling agency emailed it to me..she is with teh same agency as this girl who killed herself..they all knew how unhappy she was about being a "plus-sized" model..she wanted to be like the rest of the girls..the skinny fashion model type..

and even the other models gave her shit about being a plus-sized model..

I know this is why she killed herself bro..i was told by a close source

 

[Kakdiesel]

bump

 

[vixenbabe]

Very sad indeed!

 

[Kakdiesel]

I think women do get shit worse then men...

Men make fun of fat women
Women make fun of fat women

Men dont get that much shit from women, or from other guys, but I feel bad that women get pressure from everywhere..peers, media, friends, family...to look skinny or thin and stuff.

I feel for this poor girl..

 

[HappyScrappy]

damn. that's a painful way to go. I hope for her sake so at least was less painful she was on something.

I used to have a really terrible opinion towards fat people. I ran 10 miles every day, did weights, ate well, and was young.

now I'm still relatively young, but I took two plus years off from running and put on a nice layer of slob on my body.
it made me see the fact, that somehow I missed before even as obvious as it is, this could be any of us.
once you get into the spiral of not working out, not feelign like it, eating a ton of good tasting stuff... it just adds the fat nicely.

I'm now trying to get out of that, and I was never even close to fat, but in my eyes was a lard ass, still am a bit, in comparison to what I used to be like.

garza, if I'm not mistaken, is a high school kid. all I can say is, wait until you are 25-30 and your metabolism shifts a bit.
then wait till you hit 40.
I predict a fat fuck.
enjoy it.

 

[Kakdiesel]

not to make light of this situation, but just think how the other girl musta felt when she found her? I mean they were chillin listening to good music gettin blazed from the chronic and then find someone who stabbed themselves in the neck??

that had to kill her buzz and REALLY fuck with her high mental state..i would hate to be really high and happy and then see my friend dead in the kitchen from stabbing themselves in the neck with a kitchen knife..

 

[Slice of Peach2]

garza, if I'm not mistaken, is a high school kid. all I can say is, wait until you are 25-30 and your metabolism shifts a bit.
then wait till you hit 40.
I predict a fat fuck.
enjoy it.

I have seen his pic, do a search. I hate it when people who are not that much better try to talk about someone. Hypocrite. I stayed out of his thread because it disturbed me that someone could be that much a hypocrite.

 

[Kakdiesel]

I love fat people ugly people...as long as they are good people and that aint no joke.

I just hate the fact that people kill themselves and stuff because of how insensitive and mean people can be....

sticks and stones my ass, that shit dont work no more. People say fucked up shit these days

 

[Evloks]

You never know what youre teasing could do..look at this model..she even lost it and its sad

NEW YORK (AP) - Natasha Duncan, a plus-size model who had appeared in Seventeen and other magazines, apparently committed suicide by stabbing herself several times in the neck, police said. Duncan, 21,slashed her throat with a kitchen knife Saturday in her East Side apartment, according to police. Duncan's roommate, fellow model Johanna Edelberg, told police they were smoking marijuana when she went to listen to music in another room. When she returned to the
kitchen, she found Duncan's body, police said. Duncan was with the prestigeous Wilhelmina agency, which began its plus-size model division, catering to larger women, in 1994 Duncan had appeared in several magazines, including Mode. Duncan's family reportedly told police she had been depressed. She did not leave a suicide note.

Not to be harsh, but think if she had more self confidence in herself she would still be alive. She was must had been gifted to had become a model even if she was overweight, so she shouldn`t have let people bring her down like they did. If anything, use the criticizm as motivation and do something about your weight problem. This goes for plus sized women or anyone that is overweight. Many overweight spend valuable time pitying thierselves and eating junk when they could be in the gym doing something about thier weight problem. Yes I do feel for her, her family, and her friends, but she took the cowardly way out instead of taking a chance at bettering herself.

 

[plifter]

I think Peach is right. There are a lot of young kids on this board that make fun of people. I'm on the wrong side of 25 and I can tell you it does get more difficult as you get older. I used to be able to eat all of the fast food and donuts I wanted and still had washboards. It doesn't work like that anymore!
I just wonder if these people make fun of them while they're working out at the gym. I would never try to discourage someone.

 

[booger]

At Work

Where I work it seems to be 'Survival of the Fattest'. All the managers are 300+. Moneywise it has it's advantages. But my boss has had 2 heart attacks and had a couple of stints put in his arteries. And he's only 51.

 

[Kakdiesel]

I feel what you're saying but fat people psyche is very delicate in our culture..with all the media, peer pressure, etc its very hard to get through all that..and some women are naturally big..as in 5'9 140 lbs of muscle with some bodyfat..just thick girls who arent fat but no what TV or Movies call "feminine"--so of course they feel pressure as well

its just always sad to me when someone who has a sucessful life, kills themselves

 

[danielson]

jeez.....ok i realise that people felt his remarks were callous, and as a former fat person, they still kinda hit home, even now where i consider myself to be in good shape.

but dont u think he realises that this is now deemed unacceptable. i must say i prefer this thread to the moronic one where everyone whos posted all of '1 thread on between the sheets about their depraved fantasies with grape covered dildos' came out to flame garza. but maybe we ought to give it a rest.

im sure he realises. im also sure i remeber posts like this in the past, and just a few posts within them saying how its not very nice to insult fat people, no way close to what happens now. i just tend to hate these flame-fests on the boards these days.

and yes, ive been it all. i went from normal to fat. then fat to very skinny. then skinny to what i am now.

 

[Kakdiesel]

Bonzai Danielson!!! hehehe..


This was no personal flame for anybody, but I just dont like people on a board like this to make fun of anybody else because they arent "elite"..i mean i'm sure most bodybuilders do get pretty fat themselves on bulking cycles and then spend time and money on drugs to cut up.

most people with weight problems could easily lose the fat if they knew how to train as properly as you fine athletes on the board, and could get their hands on t3, clen, and cutting drugs..

now dont get me wrong, i know everybody on here works hard for their bodies..i'm not crediting just drugs to the wonderful physiques on here...i know hard work, dedication, patience, and determination were all bigger factors in reaching for your goals..

i was just making an observation

 

[Shrebly]

Unless you were fat, are fat or have any close friends who are fat - you will never know the truth behind the matter.

I'll lay it on the line here - and I could care less what little 10th grader happens to think it's funny. I was 300+ pounds in middle school - something I am not proud of in the least. My own family - flesh and blood - used me as the brunt of their jokes. "Give it Shelly, she always has room for more". Know what I got for my 16th birthday? A fucking metal pig feed bucket with my name on it. Yeah, that's got love written all over it. The same poeple that gave me the left overs from Thanksgiving dinner telling me to eat it so it wouldn't go to waste were the same ones that beat me down mentally for the way I looked.

I hooked up with a few guys that were older than me and they showed me around the gym, even then, while I was trying to better myself - people snickered and belittled me. Much like some of you do on a daily basis. The first 20 pounds flew off - words didn't effect me anymore. After losing 100 pounds I told them all to fuck off and die.

So the next time you see someone at a buffet - take a closer look at what they are eatting - maybe they are on a diet and having a salad or trying the low carb diet. I've seen the comments that some people make "I'll never be fat" and "Fat people are lazy". I hate to tell you but there are more fat people than fit people and without those lard asses running around - you wouldn't have anything to make yourself feel so big, bad and built.

 

[Kakdiesel]

very well said shrebly...very well said

 

[danielson]

yeah, kaky D, i know this wasnt a personal insult against anyone, u can tell just by reading it. but i just thought we should let the subect lie.

especially since the majority of people on pucs thread would have just jumped in for a flame even if they didint even know any fat people. being fat REALLLY sucks, being laughed at, teased, constantly ridiculed, it can really mess with ya

 

[The Varnsen]

Shrebly now i see...

 

[supersizeme]

i love thick women...it's unfortunate this happened to that poor girl. on a pointless technicality note, i believe she died as a result of stabbing herself in the chest and puncturing her lung. she did stab herself repeatedly in the neck/throat area but that wasn't what did it.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I reread what I posted and I feel bad.
Garza isn't a bad guy from what I can tell - he is just a high school kid - we've all been there. hasn't been through it all yet - fuck, i'm only 24, I haven't been through much, but still far more.
I just recall from pics that he looked like he very well could have the genetics to be fat someday, so I found it amusing at best that he wrote that.

that said - I really can't stand the fat fucks I work with.
it is totally different to know you are fat and the horrible things our society does to those people, and just the general difficulty of it in general (getting made fun of in the gym when you are trying to rectify the problem), the incredible mental barrier to get up over in order to eat better and work out - it is a whole lifestyle change.
if someone is fat and goes through that, it blows my mind - I envy their willpower.
but then there are the fat fucks - and if these are the ones that garza was referring to - then I agree, if he just meant fat in general, then that is a bit harsh.

a fat fuck, by my definition, is someone that is in total denial and even goes as far as to tell you, someone that is working out, what you are doing wrong.
I work with many fat fucks.
one girl showed up to a party we had in a hawaian grass skirt and a white sports bra. I'd guess she was pushing 300. she thought she was hot. I'm glad she had self confidence, I'm not glad I had to see that.
then the men here make me sick. they complain that they have guts, and then complain while they are eating total shit about how "I don't know, I workout" - and hten they tell me their workouts. they might make it to the gym twice a week and they lounge through some lazy weight work. yeah, that gives you the right to eat that greasy burger and fries - damn, why aren't they losing the weight. I tried to tell him it was a lifestyle change, not just occasionally eating better and moving his arms, and he said that was too hard. yeah, well, enjoy being fat then.
then this other fat fuck is totally round, and he won't stop talking about how amazing it is to skydive and how good he is at martial arts and how he feels that he is quite strong and intimidating and I might learn a few things if I stuck with him. sure thing dude.

anyway, I can go on forever about this.
my point being I personally have a mental distinction - I have respect for people that are large and are willing to do something about it.
I feel sorry for people that are large and have given up on it. it is a tough road and I see how they feel and I wish they'd get it back together.
but I can't fucking stand the assholes that are fat shits and they are in denial of it and think they are just big boned strong guys that need to tell me that what I'm doing is unhealthy. they piss me off.

 

[The Varnsen]

HappyScrappy there are fat dudes who are very good at martial arts...

 

[MP5]

No suicide note? Then how do you know she offed herself because someone made a fat remark? Here is what could have happend...2 fat chicks sitting around doing bong hits and when she got up to go to the other room to get some twinkies to fend off her munchies, she realized that her roomate had ate them all, and she got soooo distressed she killed herself.

What is easier...not being lazy and ...god forbid...work out a little, or stabbing yourself in the neck?!

No one made her fat but her.

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

That is very sad. And I do think society needs to learn more manners.

However, not to be cold or anything, but you can't blame society for a person's own decision to take their own life. I don't see society becoming more caring, or less visually obsessed, so people need to look within themselves. I find it more sad that a person could lack self worth to the degree that they could commit suicide. The problem, or disability, I feel lies in people lacking self esteem, and not being able to tell society to fuck off.

You can't control the thinking of a mass of people, but you can control your own.

 

[da big thinker]

mp5,

no one made her fat but her?c'mon bud...how do you know that her parents didn't force feed her...like shrebly perhaps???it is ignorance like yours that brings out ill feelings amongst these individuals.

ps:shrebly,congratulations on your accomplishments...much respect fa you!

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

What is easier...not being lazy and ...god forbid...work out a little, or stabbing yourself in the neck?!

Now I do consider myself to be a little more sensitive then MP5 (no offense MP5, I know you got a soft vulnerable side that you save for select people...e.i.May)....but a very good point

 

[MommaKin]

Shrebly, that was a great post. I loved it and it is soo true.
MP5, go fuck yourself.

 

[kitKat]

Like someone has said already that society looks at fat people and make judgements about them i.e. lazy, sloppy, lack of willpower. In some cases that is very true others not.....but, here is another spin on things.

A fat person wear his weakness for the world to see so we can make our snap judgements about them, were as the pedofile, liar, theif, rapist, murderers don't. We can't look at those people and see the bad horrible things that lie within them. Things society deams as bad, things that in fact are truely reprehensible.

I don't in any way mean to say that fat people are anything like muderers, rapists and such.....! Just using that as an example!

 

[FrankRizzo]

Mommakin - Am I seeing half of your titties in that avatar? If what I see is what I think I see you are FINE AS HELL in my book.

 

[john937]

Is everyone absolutely certain there was no foul play?
Men tend to kill themselves in ways that are quick but messy( stabb to the heart or gut, guns, jump from building).
Women tend to kill themselves in ways that are slow but painless and clean (sleeping pills, car exhaust in the garage, unlit oven gas)
But Nobody stabs Themselves in their own Neck!

 

[da big thinker]

frank,i see it too...she is fine and CANADIAN...YEEHAWWWW

 

[velvett]

I would like to point out that the Model in question.

Was:

5'11"

37.5 bust
28.5 waist


Hardly considered fat, by non model standards.


natasha duncan

 

[kitKat]

I would like to point out that the Model in question.

Was:

5'11"

37.5 bust
28 waist


Hardly considered fat, by non model standards.


natasha duncan

Oh my gosh are you serious Velvett? That is so sad...!!!
I am guessing I would be considered fat if I am 5'7" I have a 37 bust and a 26 waist....it is not far off that!!! Geez!

 

[MP5]

You all can suck it if you are pissed at me. Ever see a fat person in the German concentration camps? No? That is what I thought. The reason? Because they burned more calories than they took in. It is scientifically impossible to gain weight if you burn more than you eat. By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem. they could hit the gym with me every night if they wanted but they choose to lay around and watch tv while eating crap. if you guys all feel a certain way about yourself based on society then you are fucked in the head too.

 

[Kakdiesel]

Yeah but trying to make a living in an already competitive superficial field and others constantly ready to tell you that you are too fat and too big anyways, and also the fact that certain girls in her agency constantly made her life hell (i got this story emailed to me by a friend of mine who is in the Wilhelmina agency with a personal message in it about how she knew this would happen)

she got stoned, depressed, stoned some more, really depressed and just did it basically..

im not saying she wasnt already right in the head (no person is if they commit suicide) but i'm sure pressures in her life got to her thats all.

 

[Slice of Peach2]

You all can suck it if you are pissed at me. Ever see a fat person in the German concentration camps? No? That is what I thought. The reason? Because they burned more calories than they took in. It is scientifically impossible to gain weight if you burn more than you eat. By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem. they could hit the gym with me every night if they wanted but they choose to lay around and watch tv while eating crap. if you guys all feel a certain way about yourself based on society then you are fucked in the head too.

I can't believe you think this way, D.

 

[MP5]

Feel what way? Just because I believe a person's weight is a choice, not some dreaded disability that they have no control over? I don't have anything against fat people, but I do when they start blaming society for their physical failures and state of mind. I don't know one fat person that eats right and excercises.

 

[kitKat]

You all can suck it if you are pissed at me. Ever see a fat person in the German concentration camps? No? That is what I thought. The reason? Because they burned more calories than they took in. It is scientifically impossible to gain weight if you burn more than you eat. By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem. they could hit the gym with me every night if they wanted but they choose to lay around and watch tv while eating crap. if you guys all feel a certain way about yourself based on society then you are fucked in the head too.

Well according to Michel Montignac the author of "Eat Yourself Slim" a book that has taken Europe by storm and has sold 8 million copies, he did a study on concentration camp survivors and nearly a 98% of the were obese later on even though they only consume around 1,500 calories a day. Why well as most people who work out on Elite know you can get your metabolism so low that you cease to burn calories like a normal person. Hence the Yo-Yo dieting .....keep in mind what the media still preaches eat less and you will lose weight...that is a half truth at best.

 

[Kryp2o]

Thanks for the link velvett, now . . . here she is Natasha Duncan was she fat ? Not even close. Phat (pretty hot and tempting) maybe, but fat no way.

 

[Kakdiesel]

i was told she gains weights easily and stuff..she was depressed, gettin high, and gaining weight..

basically the cookie crumbled for her

 

[vixenbabe]

Originally posted by Kryp2o
Thanks for the link velvett, now . . . here she is Natasha Duncan was she fat ? Not even close. Phat (pretty hot and tempting) maybe, but fat no way.

Kryp20 - Thanks for the HELP on my thread yesterday BTW- Kind words from you as well! I did not want to bump the thread back to the top so I'll do it here.

This thread is getting sadder by the minute..SHE WAS A PRETTY GIRL - DAMN SHAME!

 

[velvett]

kaky,

I mean holy freeakin' crap.

She wasn't as good as her thinner model friends to master her eating disorder?

Or maybe she didn't like heroin enough?


She was a stunning girl - hands down.


It is quite odd to stab yourself in neck though...
I'm going to have to agree with John on this one for a ???? for foul play.

That or her weed was laced.

But that's neither here nor there.

 

[Kryp2o]

Kryp20 - Thanks for the HELP on my thread yesterday BTW- Kind words from you as well! I did not want to bump the thread back to the top so I'll do it here.

You're welcome vixen . . . and you are one beautiful lady.

 

[PsychoSkitz]

Kak, how close was this source?

How the hell do they know what she was thinking when she went into the other room, in an intoxicated state, and killed herself.

Maybe the marijuana impaired her judgement too much. Maybe it was laced with something. I doubt she did it because she was fat. And if she did, she's a fool. She had what they make out to be a good career in modeling and she had the ability to change the way "fat people" are looked at in the business. She threw it all away.

People who kill themselves will never get my condolences. They did it for a reason. What that reason is, none of us will know. They know why they did it and they know the consequences, so let them be.

 

[Iron Thrower]

Feel what way? Just because I believe a person's weight is a choice, not some dreaded disability that they have no control over? I don't have anything against fat people, but I do when they start blaming society for their physical failures and state of mind. I don't know one fat person that eats right and excercises.

Very well said by MP5. I too believe that people have a choice to be fat or thin. Now, I am 18 right now, and all throughout middle and high school, I was overweight. Did anyone pay attention to me, No. People treated me like shit. I started going to the gym when I was in 7th grade and I didn't make any gains at all becuase my diet was way off track.

Now, a few monthes ago, I decided to make a change and so I entered a fitness contest at my gym and I won. I lost over 45 pounds. It is so amazing how much differently your peers will treat you when you look differently. I guess what I am trying to say is that, their will always be ridicule towards overweight people in the world. But, no matter who you are, or what you look like, you have the option to change.

In no way do I ridicule or make fun of fat people. That would be kind of silly since I used to be one. But to me, an overweight person is weak. They have no motivation or self discipline.

Now a lot of people will try and say that these people don't realize they have a problem. That is complete bullshit. When your in the shower or getting dressed, I bet an overweight persons wonders what it would be like to be skinny. All overweight and former overweight people will tell you that they always wonder what it's like to be one of "those" people.

 

[The Varnsen]

...

 

[rudedawg]

Yeah but trying to make a living in an already competitive superficial field and others constantly ready to tell you that you are too fat and too big anyways, and also the fact that certain girls in her agency constantly made her life hell (i got this story emailed to me by a friend of mine who is in the Wilhelmina agency with a personal message in it about how she knew this would happen)

Got a bit of news for you....... pretty much all fields that there is a significant salary/money to be made are competitive now.


Nice friend.........she new it would happen...... did she try to prevent it from happening?

 

[The Varnsen]

rudehawg try to take Kak´s posts with a grain of salt...

 

[rimmer]

Fuck it and lighten up guys... I think Garza made a good joke, nothing special in this internet world. I have been a lard ass myself and been harrassed about that and I didn't feel offended about Garza's thread. The people who by continuously mocking people cause things like this (the model story) are totally different than Garza.

 

[May1010]

Feel what way? Just because I believe a person's weight is a choice, not some dreaded disability that they have no control over? I don't have anything against fat people, but I do when they start blaming society for their physical failures and state of mind. I don't know one fat person that eats right and excercises.

D.


You're kind of being an asshole here. After all, you're kind of chunky too, aren't you?


L.

 

[Jimsbbc]

depression is a real issue. anyone can get stuck in a downward spiral. Sometimes it is impossible to pull out. If one thinks it is hopeless, and life is worthless, there isn't much keeping them there. She didn't get help in time, and made a bad, permanent solution to a fixable problem.

 

[X.X]

I don't even know what this woman is doing in a discussion about being "fat". Her photograph - she looked perfectly normal and beautiful to me. This so-called "plus" size crap is insane. How small do you have to be to be "plus"? How sad. What a loss.

But it isn't only a size/weight issue, although I'm aware of how women (and men) internalize the ideas of meeting some physical standard. I have always been "normal", but I hated my body when I was younger. Looking back, there was absolutely nothing wrong with me. But I was so depressed because I wasn't what I thought that I should be. I was always very very hard on myself. BUT, I do think that my family and life circumstances played a big part in having those feelings. It wasn't about how I actually looked to other people. It was all about my perception of how I looked to myself. A thousand guys could have told me that I was really something - and it just went in one ear and out the other. Enough about me.

My point is that we can all see that she was lovely and even more important, it doesn't really f*cking matter. Natasha obviously and sadly saw herself as not worth living and, for whatever reasons, we don't really know. But it was more than an issue of weight. That was only a symptom, not the cause.
And it does seem highly unusual that she would take her own life like that.

Kind of off topic, but one of my favorite movies in the world is Muriel's Wedding. If you've seen it, then I think you know what I mean.

XX

 

[Fonz]

Unless you were fat, are fat or have any close friends who are fat - you will never know the truth behind the matter.

I'll lay it on the line here - and I could care less what little 10th grader happens to think it's funny. I was 300+ pounds in middle school - something I am not proud of in the least. My own family - flesh and blood - used me as the brunt of their jokes. "Give it Shelly, she always has room for more". Know what I got for my 16th birthday? A fucking metal pig feed bucket with my name on it. Yeah, that's got love written all over it. The same poeple that gave me the left overs from Thanksgiving dinner telling me to eat it so it wouldn't go to waste were the same ones that beat me down mentally for the way I looked.

I hooked up with a few guys that were older than me and they showed me around the gym, even then, while I was trying to better myself - people snickered and belittled me. Much like some of you do on a daily basis. The first 20 pounds flew off - words didn't effect me anymore. After losing 100 pounds I told them all to fuck off and die.

So the next time you see someone at a buffet - take a closer look at what they are eatting - maybe they are on a diet and having a salad or trying the low carb diet. I've seen the comments that some people make "I'll never be fat" and "Fat people are lazy". I hate to tell you but there are more fat people than fit people and without those lard asses runn

Hats off to you Shrebly.

I also had a girl friend in High school who was very bright but also
very big. Around 250lbs at the time. People constantly asked me
why on earth I hung out with her since in those times I was
the quintessential athlete and captain of several school teams.
I didn't give a hoot that she was big, I liked her intelligence
and her honesty.
However, I couldn't be everywhere to defend her, and the
I have to say that constant attacks by other people DO TAKE THEIR
toll on ANYBODY.
She eventually broke down and was clinically depressed for
quite some time.
She contemplated suicide quite a few times.
Even her parents were bashing her.
Imagine that. Getting CONSTANTLY attacked at
school, and then coming home and getting
more of the same abuse she got at school.
She later told me that if I hadn't been there she didn't think she
would have made it.

Well, to make a rather long story short, I began to show her
how to eat properly,(None of those magazine type
diets or anything like that), lift weights and do cardio.
I also introduced her to the ECA stack which did
wonders.
People would snicker when they saw her lifting weights, doing
cardio, but as soon as the pounds started coming off,
it was like she was re-born.
It took a while, and a lot of help, but after about 13 months she
got down to 125 at a height of 5"7 with a very respectable
14% BF.
Needless to say, when her senior Year arrived, I don't think I have
been more proud of anybody in my life. She didn't insult
people that had insulted her for years, she didn't act like
she was "hot"(She was quite attractive), she was just
her old self, and I think that stung the people who had
harrassed her for years even more than if she would
have told them all to go to hell(Which she woud have been more
than entitled to do)
Guys in my teams, who had constantly harrassed her,
were asking me if I could set them up with her.....LOL
Needless to say I told them that that really wasn't
a possibility.

She went through hell, and I do mean HELL because
of IMMATURE HS kids.

I really wish people(and parents) would look past
somebodies surface, and see whats really inside.


Godspeed

 

[Shrebly]

You all can suck it if you are pissed at me. Ever see a fat person in the German concentration camps? No? That is what I thought. The reason? Because they burned more calories than they took in. It is scientifically impossible to gain weight if you burn more than you eat. By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem. they could hit the gym with me every night if they wanted but they choose to lay around and watch tv while eating crap. if you guys all feel a certain way about yourself based on society then you are fucked in the head too.

Burned more calories than they took in? Hummm... lets look at the diet... bread, water, watered down soup. Yeah, add into the fact they they worked in brick yards, dug mass graves for their own people and other various random tasks for up to 14 hours a day.

Before you go spouting off "facts" try getting them right first.

And while you are at it .. translate this for me...

By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem

 

[NinjaX]

that sux im sorry to hear that

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Shrebly now i see... that "I" Varnsen am a complete piece of grabastic amphibian shit.:
In other words...kindly crawl back into the hole in the wall that you came out of.....and leave.

"YOU: undestand two things...Jack and shit, and jack just left town.

 

[waterboy]

I think i need 2 go 2 canada

 

[MP5]

Shrebly, you proved my point, a diet of water, bread and watered down soup= low calories.
14 hours doing labor= excercise/cardio=burning calories, and they weren't fat. That goes to show if you are overweight, and reduce you calories while throwing in some excercise you won't be overweight. Don't get pissed at me cause you were fat and mistreated. And the weight being my friends problem? Exactly, I could care less if they are fat or thin, that is not why they are my friend. And...it is not affecting my life so how is it my problem. By the way, all my friends that are overweight don't give a shit so why should I? Go whine to someone else.

 

[JustinM]

SO FUCKING LEAVE GARZA OUT OF THIS....seriously guys..go look back at garzas thread at least 3-4 more people made fun of fat people..it is over...he apoliged, and he didnt mean to hurt anyone but the steel beast does it and no one said anything..why? because garza is a kid and you think he wont talk back therefor helping out your ego...leave the fucking kid alone..

peace

 

[velvett]

MP5 -

No flame - but - I hope for your sake you aren't one of those people that meet up with the FAT at 40 deal.


Yeeeeeeeeeeesh.
That would rock your world.

 

[Shrebly]

Shrebly, you proved my point, a diet of water, bread and watered down soup= low calories.
14 hours doing labor= excercise/cardio=burning calories, and they weren't fat. That goes to show if you are overweight, and reduce you calories while throwing in some excercise you won't be overweight. Don't get pissed at me cause you were fat and mistreated. And the weight being my friends problem? Exactly, I could care less if they are fat or thin, that is not why they are my friend. And...it is not affecting my life so how is it my problem. By the way, all my friends that are overweight don't give a shit so why should I? Go whine to someone else.

Please tell me you aren't really this moronic off the computer.

 

[bigpimp]

You never know what youre teasing could do..look at this model..she even lost it and its sad

NEW YORK (AP) - Natasha Duncan, a plus-size model who had appeared in Seventeen and other magazines, apparently committed suicide by stabbing herself several times in the neck, police said. Duncan, 21,slashed her throat with a kitchen knife Saturday in her East Side apartment, according to police. Duncan's roommate, fellow model Johanna Edelberg, told police they were smoking marijuana when she went to listen to music in another room. When she returned to the
kitchen, she found Duncan's body, police said. Duncan was with the prestigeous Wilhelmina agency, which began its plus-size model division, catering to larger women, in 1994 Duncan had appeared in several magazines, including Mode. Duncan's family reportedly told police she had been depressed. She did not leave a suicide note.

the only thing this proves is that she was a weak person and couldnt deal with herself and her problems...
you want to hear something sad and fucked up.....about a year ago my uncle..his wife and kids were stopped at a light downtown and a fucking crackhead came up robbed and murdered everyone of them in broad daylight... including the kids.....so i say fuck people and their suicidal weak minded selves.....if they cant appreciate the life they were blessed with then good riddens....

 

[JayO]

who cares...btw how can you be fat and be a model...fat people are ugly....period

 

[Puc]

IRON THROWER YOU ARE WRONG!

...to me, an overweight person is weak. They have no motivation or self discipline.

Now a lot of people will try and say that these people don't realize they have a problem. That is complete bullshit. When your in the shower or getting dressed, I bet an overweight persons wonders what it would be like to be skinny. All overweight and former overweight people will tell you that they always wonder what it's like to be one of "those" people.

Are fat people stupid, weak willed, or demonic? No.

Damning the fat elucidates an incredible lack of tolerance. It makes you in the very least close-minded and perhaps down right bigoted. If someone chooses a different value system than yours or perhaps prioritizes things different than you, it does not make them less of a person.

I have several friends who are overweight, not because they can't control themselves, but because they have CHOSEN to focus their energies on non-physical pursuits. They decided long ago that they would rather pursue academic/spiritual interests with their full drive and not worry about the physical. Being fat does not interfere with them becoming the best they can be at what they have CHOSEN to do. They are still passionate, dedicated people whose scopes' vary from yours.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are overweight, out of shape people who are so because of weakness. I will condemn them right along side of you. You cannot simply look at someone on the beach and declare them worthless, however. You can't do this any more than someone can look at you and declare you a BIGOREXIC ROID-HEAD.

If you want to vilify, vilify those who lack passion and dedication. They are humanities real viruses.

Puc

 

[JayO]

if you choose to look like a fat ass and you get made fun of thats your own problem

 

[fiatconspiracy]

some good posts here,

1 I think fat men get made fun of all the time, I have a fat buddy who we make fun of all the time, it is tough for him cause he is a man and expected to take it, but he refuses to exercise

2 If you are fat ,or skinny it is your responsibility, you intake calories and you output calories,

3 some people have a different wiring in their brains, making it easier for some then others to lose fat

4 Blaming society is an easy out, society didnt kill her, she did

 

[Wfabrizio]

No suicide note? Then how do you know she offed herself because someone made a fat remark? Here is what could have happend...2 fat chicks sitting around doing bong hits and when she got up to go to the other room to get some twinkies to fend off her munchies, she realized that her roomate had ate them all, and she got soooo distressed she killed herself.

That is a pretty funny visual there MP5.