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Freakin nosebleeds

Vascular Freak

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Week 2 of 400mg test e, 500mg primo, 800mg eq, and 50mg var. I have been getting nosebleeds atleast once a day. Do I need to cut back on the amount of gear or should I abort the cycle?

I hate getting nosebleeds in front of co wrokers, family etc, my BP has gotta be up, I will check it today.

I am using letro and AIFM so I don't have much bloat at all, diet is low in sodium and carbs, and I drink lots of water? WTF?
 
I would do like you said and check your BP before caling it quits, then try scaling back the eq first. Good luck.
 
well androgens and AI's dry you out, its probable that you have dry skin + with the weather being fairly dry in winter can = nosebleeds. You may want to cut back on your AI use and/or add some low dose progestins.

you can also rubbing a small amount of glycerin or avocado oil, jojoba oil, etc in the lining of the nasal passages (to keep skin from cracking).
 
macrophage69alpha said:
well androgens and AI's dry you out, its probable that you have dry skin + with the weather being fairly dry in winter can = nosebleeds. You may want to cut back on your AI use and/or add some low dose progestins.

you can also rubbing a small amount of glycerin or avocado oil, jojoba oil, etc in the lining of the nasal passages (to keep skin from cracking).

A few of my bros including myself ,were bitching about the same thing last week. My guess is it's the weather since my lips are chapped and my elbows are dry/need lotion.
 
Check your blood pressure, if it is normal, then it is your sinuses drying out due to the weather, or heaters being turned on wherever you are at. I get them all the time this time of year, especially when sleeping. Almost bled all over this girl's pillow the other night. That would not have gone over well since it was the first time I had stayed over lol.
 
Re: Freakin nosebleeds

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What are my options if its high bp?

Lower your doses, run an AI, throw some cardio in there, tighten up your diet or go get some OTC meds...
 
JuicedAthletics said:
Lower your doses, run an AI, throw some cardio in there, tighten up your diet or go get some OTC meds...

I am already doing all of that except for OTC meds. What meds can you get for blood pressure that is actually effective that you don't need a script for?

I am pretty sure its my BP but the dry weather/dry skin doesn't help much either. I can almost feel when I am gonna get one, my head feels like it has abnormal pressure in it and I feel "uneasy", kind of like anxiety...... then I bend over an BANG... it bleeds MTF!
 
anxiety increases BP. what supps are you taking? do you eat a lot of cheese (tyramine)?

does it occur after meals? before? is there anything other than the symptoms you can tie to its occurence?
 
Try some herbs with calming effect such as Passion Flower and Black Haw. Hawthorn also helps lower blood pressure and is good for the heart. Ive heard good things about Garlic as well.. Knock on wood, I dont suffer from HBP, but guys I train with use these things...
 
macrophage69alpha said:
anxiety increases BP. what supps are you taking? do you eat a lot of cheese (tyramine)?

does it occur after meals? before? is there anything other than the symptoms you can tie to its occurence?


I have been using 3-4 pumps of aifm daily, 1.25mg letro, 8 sesa caps, 6 glucR caps, CEE, BCAA, vit E, calcium, Animal Pak, Tylers Liver Detox, Vanadyl Sulfate, Green tea extract, L tyrosine.

I also eat lots of flax seeds and walnuts which I believe can thin the blood. I am curious as to whether the combo of vit e, flax, sesapure, in high doses is thinning my blood and the elevated BP is causing the thinner blood to break through the capilaries in my nostril?

The blood is real watery when it bleeds. I know the gera is causing it, but I think maybe having thinner blood allows it to bleed easier?

Mac to answer your question, it normally happens either when I am washing my face with hot water in the shower, or in the afternoon between 12-4 pm...... normally about 1-2 hours after training????

I am willing to drop some of the gear for sure but I don't know which one could be causing it.

My last cycle I ran test and eq with winstrol for the first 7 weeks and all was fine. In week 12 I added primo and the winstrol back in and nosebleeds occured the same way.... Maybe the primo?
 
The other thing... it seems to occur at the times when I get swollen/painful/redness at an injection site whether it is my quads or glutes. Could an infection at the injection site cause nosebleeds as well? The other day I was in the shower massaging my quad that was red and swollen, the pain while rubbing and bending my knee was intense..... at that time I got my first nosebleed?
 
sesapure increases DHGLA levels, flax increase GLA levels and contains GLA, GLA like aspirin is an anti-clotting agent. So thats a possible issue.

it seems like you have a confluence of factors.

The localized swelling, indicaitng presence of high levels of neutrophils and eosinophils which can affect bleeding.

your anxiety increases BP.

your BP is raised from androgens (though offset by your AI's use)

dry weather and lowered estrogen makes vessel breaks more likely

are you taking aspirin?
 
Mac.... I guess I am taking the "nosebleed" stack then! I am going to check my BP in a few. I was taking the sesa and flax in between cycles and the nosebleeds went away..... no there back so it must be the combo of the injection swelling, low estro/high andro, and elevated BP thats doing it.

In this case, would lowering the doses of gear actually help, or is it more the anti e and swelling etc?

I also have been getting slightly dizzy at times, almost like my equilibrium is off a touch..at these times I notice my body temp is hotter and I tend to get the nose bleeds. BP right?
 
Vascular Freak said:
Week 2 of 400mg test e, 500mg primo, 800mg eq, and 50mg var. I have been getting nosebleeds atleast once a day. Do I need to cut back on the amount of gear or should I abort the cycle?

I hate getting nosebleeds in front of co wrokers, family etc, my BP has gotta be up, I will check it today.

I am using letro and AIFM so I don't have much bloat at all, diet is low in sodium and carbs, and I drink lots of water? WTF?
Run one of those misting type humidifyers(where you can actually see the mist coming out) in your bedroom as you sleep,this will also moisten your nasal passage and prevent it from cracking,I have to do this all winter to prevent nosebleeds,and it works,beats getting your nose packed,that sucks....
 
bigmodean said:
Run one of those misting type humidifyers(where you can actually see the mist coming out) in your bedroom as you sleep,this will also moisten your nasal passage and prevent it from cracking,I have to do this all winter to prevent nosebleeds,and it works,beats getting your nose packed,that sucks....


I will look into that. I have also been rubbing neosporin to the inside of my nose to keep the skin moist.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Week 2 of 400mg test e, 500mg primo, 800mg eq, and 50mg var. I have been getting nosebleeds atleast once a day. Do I need to cut back on the amount of gear or should I abort the cycle?

I hate getting nosebleeds in front of co wrokers, family etc, my BP has gotta be up, I will check it today.

I am using letro and AIFM so I don't have much bloat at all, diet is low in sodium and carbs, and I drink lots of water? WTF?
its def gotta be the blood pressure, same shit happens with me and winny and clen combos, i found supplementing with garlic really helped... or maybe it was all in my head or should i say nose
 
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