Hey bros....Check this out on Cissus. This would be a good supplement for you guys.
From TrueProtein.com
Cissus Quadrangularis (CQ), aka Veld Grape, is a houseplant used in Indian folk medicine to heal fractures (3, 4, 15, 16, 18, 20-23), and in other cultures to treat, for instance, gastrointestinal disorders (8-11) and even hemorrhoids(14). Cissus also has anti-oxidant and anti-microbial effects (2, 13), anti-inflammatory actions (8-10) including the reduction of tissue infiltration by immune cells(9), a hallmark of tissue injury, and similarly, analgesic (pain reducing) actions(14). CQ contains high levels of vitamin C and carotene(2) as well as the phytochemical quercitin(17), an anti-inflammatory(19), vaso-dilating flavanoid found in grapes(5), and beta-sitosterol(17), a cholesterol-based compound that also has anti-inflammatory(6) as well as immunomodulating (cortisol reducing) effects(1) and possibly the ability to reduce glucocorticoid receptor expression(7).
A study with beta-sitosterol demonstrated that this constituent of CQ reduced the stress on the immune system as well as the elevation in cortisol brought on by running a marathon(1), suggesting that beta-sitosterol and CQ may have an adaptogenic effect. CQ may also aid in body fat loss and improve related health parameters such as blood lipid profile. Oben et al.(12, 13) found that, compared to a placebo group, obese individuals taking CQ (600mg daily), with or without a formulation including green tea extract, lost bodyweight and reduced blood LDL ("bad") cholesterol, triglycerides and resting blood glucose. CQ also increased serotonin levels in the blood, which may have reduced appetite, as well as creatinine, suggesting that CQ may have an anabolic effect. (An increase in blood creatinine level suggests increased skeletal muscle mass(24, 25).) Studies of CQ's effect on bone growth also support the notion of CQ as an anabolic agent(3).
Supplement use
CQ has been studied with doses of 600mg extract / day. To aid in body fat loss, CQ could be taken with caffeine, tyrosine, green tea extract, BCAA's, and/or yohimbine HCL. Under the guidance of a physician, to improve blood lipid profile and/or blood glucose (and act as an anti-oxidant), green tea extract and alpha-lipoic acid could be supplement the diet, along with CQ. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) and CQ both may help with tissue healing and inflammation, and reduce post-exercise muscle inflammation. Given its effects (see above) on reducing cortisol, possibly downregulating the glucocorticoid receptor, increasing muscle mass during periods of weight loss, as well as promoting bone tissue growth (or retarding its loss(16)), CQ may be helpful for athletes in heavy training who are trying to build or retain muscle mass. For this purpose, supplements such as creatine, glutamine, BCAA's (especially Leucine), HMB, a protein blend, waxy maize and of course an appropriate diet and exercise regiment could be combined with daily CQ supplementation. Likewise, CQ may be adaptogenic during highly stressful periods of training or after stressful events such as a marathon, and could be taken along with arginine alpha-ketoglutarate to assist in recovery.
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