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forgoten lifts

BadboyAl said:
there forgotten lifts for a reason!

people dont forget stuff that works...

lol, I have to admit this was funny.

Thanks mostly to Aurther Jones (and whatever he left in tact, which was very little, Joe Weider destroyed) people have forgotten about everything that works. It seems common on a forum, but in most commercial gyms nobody squats, if they do, they are 1/8th squats or in a Smith, nobody pulls from the floor or presses with free weights (except for The horizontal champ's special, the flat bench), they want ease and comfort....Isolating the outer left pec tie-in and 'blasting the bicep$$' don't work without truckloads of AAS and ancillaries, but people won't forget them because they are very easy to do and they don't know they're wasting their time, they just think they haven't discovered the magic 'program' or found the magic Muscle Tech supplement.
 
petpre61 said:
it is not so much about the position of the db compared to the head but the arm rotation. with the bb you cannot rotate as an external and internal shoulder rotation. (hope this makes sense)

I once had a video link where an olympic lifting coach talks about this stuff. I already sent out an email to a friend who still got the link.

they are fun to do though.

Thanks, it did make sense....if you ever get a hold of the link, shoot me a PM with it, I'd like to check it out.
 
Then you need to see some of Dru Patrick's lifts. There was a strength compilation video floating around and Dru had several lifts in it, including some OHP, DB OHP, and incline stuff. He recently did one arm DB rows w/ an insane DB. I'll try to find it.
 
A guy who also works at my gym (not Andre Doria) was also a powerlifter who competed in the 1972 Munique Olympics (did not win a medal) and in the 1971 Panamerican games (he got 4 bronz medals in powerlifting events) demonstrated something priceless (his name was Tamer Chain btw):
This guy was showing off because he was deadlifting around 120kg or so. He was kind of bitching that it was too heavy then Tamer came over and said: "Its all in the mind, if you believe you can lift it, you CAN" Then using only one hand he one-hand deadlifted the weight. The guy got so pissed that he left the belt behind and headed for the locker room. The other guys remained in katatatonic state, mouths wide open while Tamer had that old guy's "been there-donethat-Iownedyou" look.
Priceless
 
A lot of the odd lifts have their origins in old time strongman. The original sport of weightlifting was 5 lifts both one and two handed snatch and C&J as well as clean and press. The one handed lifts went first and then the press was eventually nixed in the 1970s leaving 2 lifts. Hip and back lifts, overhead supports, bent press etc...I've actually seen an entire book dedicated to the art of Bent Pressing.

I found this site a while back which contains texts from many of the old time strength books like Saxon's Development of Physical Power from 1906. The order is kind of wierd and the chapters of various books all have their own links - but hey, it's free and a lot easier than trying to track down a copy: http://www.naturalstrength.com/history/default.asp

Actually, it's a cool enough link I'll post it separately too so that people don't miss it.
 
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