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KillahBee said:
This is different than any other day how?
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borris
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javaguru said:
Right, I rather have a pot head on the road high, then a dude coming out of a bar 140 oz. deep.
American society speaks.
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borris
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javaguru said:
right, All people that smoke weed are bums and alcoholics are all completely successful.
solid conclusion
javaguru
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I've known quite a few potheads over the years.....mostly hippy types... If you smoke pot daily then you're most likely lower income(unless you deal). I know a lot of high functioning alcoholics.....one being the President of the United States...borris said:right, All people that smoke weed are bums and alcoholics are all completely successful.
solid conclusion
PS Clinton never smoked weed...he didn't inhale...
i know several people who smoke pot regularly and are successful, intelligent and high functioning.javaguru said:I've known quite a few potheads over the years.....mostly hippy types... If you smoke pot daily then you're most likely lower income(unless you deal). I know a lot of high functioning alcoholics.....one being the President of the United States...
PS Clinton never smoked weed...he didn't inhale...
take jackangel for example
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borris
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javaguru said:I've known quite a few potheads over the years.....mostly hippy types... If you smoke pot daily then you're most likely lower income(unless you deal). I know a lot of high functioning alcoholics.....one being the President of the United States...
PS Clinton never smoked weed...he didn't inhale...
There is no point in conversing further since you have no first hand experience of how it feels to physically and mentally function off cannibus.
I know many people that smoke cigarettes who aren't successful
I know many people that don't wear seat belts who aren't successful
I know many people that played with G.I. Joe's when they were little who grew up unsuccessful
javaguru
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Really, I've never jumped off a 30 story building but I can say with 100% confidence it isn't a good idea. Just like smoking pot all day and playing video games isn't going to improve your socio-economic position. Using mind altering drugs are an escape from your life and reality...if you spend the majority of your life escaping reality there is a problem....borris said:
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borris
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javaguru said:
See, perfect reason why there is no point in conversing with you on this subject. Weed doesn't give your "mind altering/ escaping reality" effects.
Everything your basing your point on is repetetive stupid stereotypes. "video games, delivery pizza, ect".
Now go back to watching Dazed n Confused, maybe you can pull up some more classic points
javaguru
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Dood...THC is a psychoactive drug......did you miss my post where I have known numerous pot heads and asked them to explain their strange addiction....My ex-wife followed the dead for two years....borris said:See, perfect reason why there is no point in conversing with you on this subject. Weed doesn't give your "mind altering/ escaping reality" effects.
Everything your basing your point on is repetetive stupid stereotypes. "video games, delivery pizza, ect".
Now go back to watching Dazed n Confused, maybe you can pull up some more classic points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thc
"Tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as THC, Δ9-THC, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), Δ1-tetrahydrocannabinol (using an older numbering scheme), or dronabinol, is the main psychoactive substance found in the Cannabis plant. It was isolated by Raphael Mechoulam, Yechiel Gaoni, and Habib Edery from the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot, Israel in 1964. In pure form it is a glassy solid when cold and becomes viscous and sticky if warmed. An aromatic terpenoid, THC has a very low solubility in water, but good solubility in most organic solvents such as butane or hexane. As in the case of nicotine and caffeine, THC's most likely function in Cannabis is to protect the plant from herbivores or pathogens [1]. THC also possesses high UV-B (280-315 nm) absorption properties, protecting the plant from harmful radiation."
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borris
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Okay bro, i'm gunna go rip my bong now so I can escape reality and fly in the clouds with Pokemon characters, after that I might order some Domino's since i'm to lazy to go to the grocery store, then following that I will probably throw on my Xbox headpiece and game all night since I have no motivation to do anything else with my life
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borris
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I probably won't, whats the point anyways, obviously since I smoke weed I live with my parents, sleep on their couch and binge off their food all day. And when i'm lucky my mom will give me a couple bucks so I can walk down to the arcade and play some more video games. But during that walk i'll probably smoke a joint which will then make me feel lazy and fall asleep right there on the sidewalk.
Oh yeah I forgot, I don't have a job either.. Potheads don't have them
Oh yeah I forgot, I don't have a job either.. Potheads don't have them
javaguru
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Borris..just for you......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305vRNoofr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305vRNoofr8
KillahBee said:
Too bad you don't have one. A purpose that is.
All of my potheads friends are broke little bishes. Come to think of it all my friends are broke bishes. I can't for sure claim its pot or other drugs, as I'm sure women/divorces and kids play a role too.
On the other hand my brother and his wife drink 4-5 nights a week (wine etc), yet both make 6 figures each. Hhhhmmmmm
On the other hand my brother and his wife drink 4-5 nights a week (wine etc), yet both make 6 figures each. Hhhhmmmmm
Sorry sir
DannoMight
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I smoke daily but usually after work and maybe again before bedtime
redsamurai
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a fucking men for this shit...........I love that this was on speed channel, this means some real exposure, not some "high times" expose nobody's going to lend any credence to.
javaguru said:
You aren't "escaping" reality as reality is an everpresent event. This is your reality. The human body is not public property. If someone doesn't want to advance socio-economically why is that your concern? You're only forcing your morality down the throats of others who do not share your view on life's purpose. By your own admission, these people are socially impotent and hence have no effect on your life. They aren't holding you back in your pursuit of what you view as good. Nobody is forcing you to use pot. Why must you hold them back and force them to conform to your way of life?
You say that you know leaping from a 30 story building isn't a good idea, which is true FOR YOU. Just like given your view on pot, smoking pot isn't good FOR YOU. It does not follow though that given your view of pot, it isn't good FOR ANYONE. Jumping from a building and using pot are not similar. There isn't a single recorded case of death from one puff of pot, but there are recorded deaths from single leaps from 30 stories up.
sopac
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Lol I love grass....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKVAQLnm_5Y
redsamurai
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sopac said:
wait a sec, dude get's stoned and thinks he's dying?? Shmeesus!!!
Smurfy said:
The answer here is the same one for Alcohol and Coke.
Many people who abuse those substances are total losers and have little going for them.
But just like food, many people can handle drugs responsibly and suffer no real adverse effects.
Sure there is a cannibis sub culture that leaves a bad taste in some people's mouths, but the same can be said for many other things. The key here is not to generalize and assume things about people you know nothing about.
I know doctors, lawyers, and executives (personally) that all partake, and you'd never guess it if they didn't tell you. People say the same thing about me, they think I'm too "straight laced" to do pot, they wouldn't flinch if I was a binge drinker (which I am not) but pot carries stigma, apparently something javaguru has bought into hook line and sinker.
bran987
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I'm curious why 140 oz.? Why would the guy leave that last 4 ounces of his 12th beer when he came so far? Why would he not finish the 12-pack? Why wasn't that everyone's first thought when they read this post?borris said:Right, I rather have a pot head on the road high, then a dude coming out of a bar 140 oz. deep.
American society speaks.
javaguru
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I won't refute the fact there are quite a few high functioning recreational drug abusers. Just sayin' if someone feels obliged to use a recreational mind altering drug almost daily then they probably have a problem that needs to be addressed. There is a correlation between consistent self-medication with recreational drugs and loserdom.Lestat said:
The answer here is the same one for Alcohol and Coke.
Many people who abuse those substances are total losers and have little going for them.
But just like food, many people can handle drugs responsibly and suffer no real adverse effects.
Sure there is a cannibis sub culture that leaves a bad taste in some people's mouths, but the same can be said for many other things. The key here is not to generalize and assume things about people you know nothing about.
I know doctors, lawyers, and executives (personally) that all partake, and you'd never guess it if they didn't tell you. People say the same thing about me, they think I'm too "straight laced" to do pot, they wouldn't flinch if I was a binge drinker (which I am not) but pot carries stigma, apparently something javaguru has bought into hook line and sinker.
javaguru
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305vRNoofr8superdave said:
javaguru
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I only used pharma grade stuff back in the day..t.est.oprim-d was my juice of choice. You can't compare rec drug use with non-rec drug use.Gambino_Von_Moltke said:nope, he will not partake in such counter culture drug abuse.
give him a needle, though, and he'll gladly inject oceanloads of bathtub test
i was hoping you'd walk into that gaping hole of logic.javaguru said:
i love it when drug users try to justify their drug abuse this way, placing themselves somehow above the rest.
the distinction of aas somehow not being a "rec" drug is bullshit as well.
what exactly where you using them for? i'll answer for you, for recreation.
javaguru
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It's not a "trap"...you want to compete in certain sports you have to juice. By definition I abused drugs to achieve a goal as opposed to a "feel good" benefit. Experts in the area differentiate the two.....Gambino_Von_Moltke said:
People don't use steroids to alter their mind and escape reality...that's what rec drugs are for...
so it's justfiable in your eyes, to use illegal controlled substances known as drugs, as long as it's for sport purpose? well, that about leaves 1% of the EF juicer population.javaguru said:
juicing does alter your reality, it allows you to live a buff reality that you wouldn't have attained without substances.
javaguru
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Quit reaching.....I juiced off and on for about five years of my life and there is a difference between recreational use and using a drug for performance. The army issues meth for prolonged missions, it's not meant for rec enjoyment but performance...there is a difference. If you smoke a joint because of insomnia then it is different than getting stoned "for fun."Gambino_Von_Moltke said:
Gambino_Von_Moltke said:
the other thing that bothers me is people who consider a glass or 2 of wine a night perfectly fine, but a joint is 'bad'.
alcohol was illegal at one point too. if the laws were reversed today, would pot be good and a little wine be considered a problem?
(btw, i haven't read this whole thread, so if this point was made already, sorry)
jh1
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stilleto said:
Drug Control Laws have a bizarre history in this country, and of course we forced the rest of the world to follow us - either willingly, through economnics, or through out right war....
During the first half of the century we didn't control any substances because it was viewed as unconstitutional - well we tried with alcohol. The constitution didn't change, just our attitutdes did. Alcohol *IS* no different, it is too a 'drug' by the same definition that the other substances are.
The thing is that society supports, for the most part, controlling substances but not alcohol. It's like our one 'vice' we're allowed... that and cigarettes. I am all about libertarism - just letting people do what they want with regards to their bodies, and that is clearly what is the constitution supports.
But like I said not only has our society folded, we've convinced the entire world differently. So the problem that you run into now - even with a 'drug' that is seemingly innocuous such as MJ is that you run the risk of putting your children at odds with society's laws. I think opposing unjust laws is necessary at any cost, it's just that no one wants their children to suffer the consequences of doing so.
hmm, proly cause those type of stats were not tracked untill they became illegal?jh1 said:
and weed was made illegal in the 1930's...so no shit more people smok now, the pop has increased treble fold.
no need for posting a link, common sense would dictate that if you made weed legal, usage would increase
jh1
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Gambino_Von_Moltke said:
I don't know about that.
Most 'drugs' were scheduled because at the time they were seen as the scurge of a group of poor people - blacks, mexicans, chinese.... whatever the case maybe.
Making them illegal put the limelight on them and spread their use to the middleclass - they wanted in on the 'magic'. Alot of drugs - ESPECIALLY so with cocaine - now have a glorified image that draws people to it.
What I will agree with is that it maybe impossible to unring the bell. You may not be able to take away the allure built up around the drug over the last 3 decades. But I don't think use would increase - at least long term. I think there may be a spike, it would level out and slowly decrease - with the right controls in place.
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the_clockwork
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I'm gay
javaguru
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Not ignorance...economics.JayC9 said:
Hippedy hop music doesn't lie maing.....ask gaybino..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305vRNoofr8
jh1
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JayC9 said:
If I am not mistaken JG is a libertarian - meaning his preference is to allow free use of all substances. Let people do as they please and weed out their genes if they can't control themselves.
I tend to agree. Worked for thousands of years. I wonder how it'd be different in modern society...
JayC9
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Slow bad connection sorry.jh1 said:
Could have fooled me.
Too many stupid people with nothing better to do than think up ways of taking away your liberties.
Modern society is the illusion of freedom.
The uni bombers manifesto had a great quote on this one, I'll have to dig it out.
riverrock
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JayC9 said:
Getting the visa sorted out is a huge relief. I'm watching the X-Factor and the number of Jock-Straps on it this year is appauling! Still, I hardly have the X-Factor when it comes to singing myself!
Training going very well. I have actually spent a lot of time boxing the past few months and I am in very good shape. I have definitely become a lot more flexible, faster, leaner, and I'll keep it going for a while yet. However, its hard to resist the temptation to go away and get huge again!!!
riverrock
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JayC9 said:
Yes, I had work done 2 1/2 year ago. I have spent the past 2 years taking Dutasteride and its no surprise that a recent study has identified it as a treatment that is scientifically proven to work. I have definitely seen a big improvement in terms of re-growth. I have pics on my phone but am reluctant to make them public as I don't want anyone to go down the hair treatment route. I don't want to be responsible for encouraging anyone, although my results are quite good. (After 2 years of hardship) Its nothing but $$$ and all you are doing is fighting off the inevitable. Im 29 now and I meet so many people in the same age bracket who are also going light on top. So what - its not as if its a rare sight!!! I
The implants were in hindsight not the smartest thing I ever did. Okay, I look good but the pain of having a scar revision done on the donar scar was agony! I did it so that I will be able to shave my head in the future. I'll still need to consider camoflage make-up as there will be a line scar which I hope will have faded by them. The back of my head is still sensitive and couple of weeks ago I got a football on the back of the head and it felt like Mike Tyson threw a right hand in my direction!
Not surprised the Russians are juicing! Look at their Olympic history! I founf a few years ago when I was on a heavy cycle that I thought I looked excellent - Everyone else thought I looked like a Roid induced freak!!!!
X-Factor is a Simon Cowell talent show similar to American Idol. Total nonsence!
JayC9
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Sounds complicated and expensive...and painfull.riverrock said:
Asian ladies don't mind a shiny top one bit, but you already know that.
Thankfully I haven't had to face the hair issue but my Mickey Mouse ears are getting deeper by the day.
Got to do the UN 10km in 3 hours time and I haven't slept yet so I'll bid you all goodnight.
JH - Unabombers manifesto paragraphs 93-98 The nature of freedom.
chewyxrage
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samoth said:I always enjoy listening to people justify their drug use.
lol
drugs are fucking sweet, mkay? I won't justify anything, I like getting high
