for those like myself who cycle and suffer depression

[forcd]

i'm not gunna play a violin, or play hard done by. just curious to hear from others who gear and suffer deppression, i myself suffer severe depression, i honestly dont kno how they scale it so i cant tell you what that means, but i am medicated and if i miss my meds all turns to shit, i wonder with others who gear does it effect your condition???? i was told it could of put me there in there first place, but also genetics, bad diet, rec drugs, a bad event blah blah, but i still gear i cant take letro or i spiral into a black hole that scares me.... i'm tryin tren now for the first time i already take alprazolam (xanax to most of you) for anxiety so i cant tell if giving me that..... i'm tired constantly but with ever since had depression i've had no energy and no med we've tried helps. i still smash it in the gym though.


really am just curious if theres others out there gearing with the same condition?????

 

[Zyglamail]

Probably not gonna be what you want to hear, but if your on meds for depression, then my opinion is you should be focusing on your health and not using gear. Fluctuating hormone levels can be a bear for people without depression and anxiety issues, why exacerbate your problems?

 

[forcd]

my psyc says the same, and thankyou for being honest... my opinion is you gotta live.... where do you stop, bad diet can cause depression including to much protein, not enough sunlight, shitty job, just plain bad luck, no reason at all. i mean i remain healthy it may sound silly but i do stay away from things that drag me into the doldrums ( a place i would not wish upon my worst enemy ) but bbuilding is a real passion and it may sound like an addicts attitude but so is aas, it brings upon sex drive which i dont have normally due to my meds, i just feel i still gotta follow my passions regardless of the humps in the road. hope this help you understand but i do appreciate your input and dont disagree with you

 

[stevesmi]

i agree with zygie... AAS will screw u up more. and tren is the worst at mind f**king you up.

you can most certainly follow your passions without juicing. there are wonderful supps out there. and if you do want to juice later on at the very least run something like var and primo at low doses.. something that won't mess with your head.

 

[forcd]

10 years ago dbols were supps otc bro, i cant take no explode, super pump 250, any pre workout stimulant. even going over 400g proteina day or i go off the rails...... just cos its over the counter doesnt mean it wont fuck with my condition, i do appreciate both your input i might say the same if i didnt understand what depression felt like but i was more after those who have depression and juice, but remember juice could have got me here so telling me it will make me worse is kind of letting yourself know it could happen to you, i didnt always have it. i may have it forever, juice or not, i do what makes me happy as those who live with depression will understand you need things like that to get through. 6 years ago i seriously would laugh at the idea that a person could be at absolute rock bottom for no reason, I mean just man the fuck up and get on with it right??? once it takes a hold of you, you suddenly understand suicide rates and being an misserable kent sometimes.... but i can still squat ass to the grass, i got a baby girl and a kick ass wife so i get through.

 

[panther66]

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I agree with you forcd that you have to be careful with the OTC. I take meds for depression as well and recently I was taking a scoop of DAA to get a natural test boost. Well, about a week into taking it, I was a mess. It really f'd with my emotions. I've never done a AAS cycle but instead have just stuck with OTC and peps. Some OTC's that haven't messed with me and actually seem to work include RLS P347, PES AnaBeta, and NTBM HCGenerate. Fortunately, I haven't had any problems using preworkout stims such as N2KTS and Forged Burner. Hope this helps.

 

[stevesmi]

well this is a totally different way of looking at it but i will give my personal view on depression. it is NORMAL to feel depressed and there is nothing wrong with it. what is wrong is when a psychiatrist or dr puts you on pills and this attitude prevalent more and more that we must always be happy and feel great.

sh*t happens in life and it isn't easy.. yeah if my dog dies or gf dumps me i am gonna cry about it. this bs that you have to move on with life or not be upset is nonsense. we are emotional as human beings, we aren't robots. as long as you have hobbies and you enjoy life most of the time you should feel blessed. but don't let someone tell you its not okay to feel depressed when stuff goes wrong or you should go out and get drunk when you have a bad day. thats buffoonery. hit the gym or the track and take out your anger through exercise and meditation, leave the meds to the overmedicated world we live in. i'll be honest its hard to find anyone under 30 these days who isn't on some type of medication, people need to learn how to live a balanced life.

 

[StevenM23]

Yeah man I had depression for a year when my exfiance left me and doc put me on Xanax and Prozac , made me alright for a bit but then I relied on them so much and started abusing the Xanax , put me in a worse place then to begin with , stick it out and fight it with all you've got, working out and hobbies like said above is my anti-depressant now , no sides and I never come down hard from them , i think it's cool u came on Here and said whTs going on with u , means your in the stage of moving forward , also I dunno if ur atheist or not but try praying to a higher power , I don't care if it's a chair or a cloud , it helps big time brotha

 

[panther66]

well this is a totally different way of looking at it but i will give my personal view on depression. it is NORMAL to feel depressed and there is nothing wrong with it. what is wrong is when a psychiatrist or dr puts you on pills and this attitude prevalent more and more that we must always be happy and feel great.

sh*t happens in life and it isn't easy.. yeah if my dog dies or gf dumps me i am gonna cry about it. this bs that you have to move on with life or not be upset is nonsense. we are emotional as human beings, we aren't robots. as long as you have hobbies and you enjoy life most of the time you should feel blessed. but don't let someone tell you its not okay to feel depressed when stuff goes wrong or you should go out and get drunk when you have a bad day. thats buffoonery. hit the gym or the track and take out your anger through exercise and meditation, leave the meds to the overmedicated world we live in. i'll be honest its hard to find anyone under 30 these days who isn't on some type of medication, people need to learn how to live a balanced life.

As I stated in my previous post, I take an antidepressant. I'm far from being mentally weak nor do I feel the need to be happy all of the time. There is a huge difference from being down about normal life crap and depression. Fortunately for you Steve, you're not aware of the difference because I get the impression that you haven't experienced the latter, which is good. I live a very balanced life, which includes family, friends, a great job, healthy diet, and loads of exercise. My depression isn't about feeling sad over nothing, it's an illness, which requires treatment like any other illness. I'm not ashamed about it, and anyone who looks down at someone who gets treatment for it... well, this is America and they are entitled to their beliefs (I'm speaking in general, not specifically you Steve.).

 

[Zyglamail]

My depression isn't about feeling sad over nothing, it's an illness, which requires treatment like any other illness.

I guess what I dont understand is the desire to blatantly disregard the side effects of gear when you are suffering from depression and coming here looking for a way to get around them.

I think its foolish to say you cant take certain OTC supps but in the same breath say you want to take AAS.

Its kind of like a diabetic coming here saying, I love sugar too much so I am going to drink my soda and eat my candy all damn day, can someone tell me how to deal with the side effects?

Having said that, I am pro choice, what you do to your body is your own business, just make sure when you snap you keep it your business and blame no one but yourself.