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[macavoy]

Hey kind sir,

What would you recomend to stack with winny , the options are deca or eq? Im looking to continue cutting up and want the one with the least h20 retention and potential bp probs as its summer and I do lots of outdoor cardio activities, and dont want my hr or bp to get out of control. Thx much.

 

[MR. TTOKKYO]

If you don't want to gain any water weight then go with EQ, Deca is known for bloating an individual "MOONFACE" as it is called.

However how many cycles have you done
Do you have your BF%
Your workout routine?
Just checking


As for the EQ how much can you get and what dosses are you using with the winny.

 

[MR. TTOKKYO]

Oh by the way good sir sorry I impossed on your thread.

 

[MR. TTOKKYO]

Well now that I look at this I would do something like this.

WEEK___EQ____WINNY____
1-------600mg--------------------
2-------400mg--------------------
3-------400mg--------------------
4-------400mg--------------------
5-------400mg-----50mgED
6-------400mg-----50mgED
7-------400mg-----50mgED
8-------400mg-----50mgED
9-------200mg---100mgEOD
10-----20mg-----50mgEOD
11----------------------------------
12-------------------300mg First3days
----------------------follow with 50mg ed for 1 week
----------------------Clomid

 

[Cornellius]

Go with eq, deca bloated me like a balloon.

 

[The Almighty]

Is it just me or does Mr. Ttokkyo seem like the next Mustang_18

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

lol @ the almighty hehe

 

[MUSTANG_18]

M18

 

[2Thick]

I would recommend EQ at 200-300mg per week.
It is a great combo that will not disappoint. Just make sure to get enough protein.

 

[Torch]

MR. TTOKKYO


Why taper the Eq? Some people say to take the clomid 3 weeks after the last shot. Can someone clear this up

 

[Ulter]

Some things never change... Come on 2Thick get real. My 133 pound wife uses 200mg/wk of eq, so does FitnessChick. Are you going to sit there and tell these guys that they will see any gains whatsoever with that.
Macavoy the cycle Mr TTokkyo wrote is going to be what you want. But don't taper it like he has there. Use 500mg/wk for 10 weeks and use the winny like he says starting in the 5th week. Also the clomid will be useless in the 2nd week after you stop. Wait 3 weeks Eq hangs around a long time. Then use 100mg for a week then 50mg for a week.

 

[The Ranger]

Ulter is right on the ball with the EQ dosages, and you won't regret it one bit...

2-Thick-N-The-Skull...I am surprised you picked EQ over your beloved Deca(heh heh heh...my preaching sinking in is it?) BUT....I'm not at all surprised at the circus midget dosages you implied....EQ will only aromatize into a very simple estro, and clomid should stop that without a problem......I guess the winny dosages would be 10mg's once per week, and he'll gain 20 pounds of solid, lean mass....heh heh heh heh

Jeez, I crack myself up sometimes....

Ranger

Game on......

 

[yiyangzhi]

I think 2Thick's recommended dosages are fine if macavoy is starting on his first cycle. The dosages can be raised in later cycles.

 

[conan69]

I would recommend EQ at 200-300mg per week.
It is a great combo that will not disappoint. Just make sure to get enough protein.

2-3 hundred?????

um once again Mr. 2Thick and I disagree

you should take at least 600mg per week, you will be real happy with results

 

[2Thick]

Ulter is right on the ball with the EQ dosages, and you won't regret it one bit...

2-Thick-N-The-Skull...I am surprised you picked EQ over your beloved Deca(heh heh heh...my preaching sinking in is it?) BUT....I'm not at all surprised at the circus midget dosages you implied....EQ will only aromatize into a very simple estro, and clomid should stop that without a problem......I guess the winny dosages would be 10mg's once per week, and he'll gain 20 pounds of solid, lean mass....heh heh heh heh

Jeez, I crack myself up sometimes....

Ranger

Game on......

Before you jump on the insane-o bandwagon... take a look at his goals.

I know that you guys are tripping over each other trying to 'bust my balls', but you should take into consideration the BP issue and his high cardio lifestyle.
He also wants the least amount of water retention possible.

He wants to lean out. High dosages are not congruent with his goals or concerns.

Only a low dosage is necessary to attain anticatabolism that he is after.

Game on.....

 

[MR. TTOKKYO]

Before you jump on the insane-o bandwagon... take a look at his goals.

I know that you guys are tripping over each other trying to 'bust my balls', but you should take into consideration the BP issue and his high cardio lifestyle.
He also wants the least amount of water retention possible.

He wants to lean out. High dosages are not congruent with his goals or concerns.

Only a low dosage is necessary to attain anticatabolism that he is after.

Game on.....

Well I agree with you but as you know alot of people here have no dedication to this lifestyle and figure injecting a drug into their body is the quick fix to add a "quick" 20lbs.
Ans as many times as one puts make sure your diet is good and keep up with your trainning logs they will never listen.

is this a reason to tell them to do more illegal drugs?

No, but I have found myself doing what I once thought was wrong.

So Now I say keep it within 2-300mgs and keep your diet clean and keep up on your trainning log.

SO KEEP YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT AND GROW!!!!!!!

 

[macavoy]

qwert

Thx 2 thick, apprec and respect youre advice. The voice of reason you are......

 

[The Ranger]

Mac,

The only thing you really should be concerned about, reguardless of the dosage you choose would be the possibilty of an increase in appetite....adding and E/C/A would curb this....not a side in everyone, but it does happen...

I'm sorry 2Thick, I was wrong, I am once again humbled at your feet....can you see fit in that HUGE heart of yours to ever forgive me....heh heh heh

Might be a bottle of moonshine in it fer ya....Hhahahahahaha

Ranger

 

[Ulter]

You are the voice of reason 2thick. It is good that you correct our mistakes when we tell someone to use AS that has no business using it in the first place.

 

[Jeff_rys]

is that you 2Thick?

Pushing someone to use a vet drug?
Are you going to the dark side?
LOL

 

[2Thick]

Might be a bottle of moonshine in it fer ya....Hhahahahahaha

Ranger

Hell yah!!! Throw in some moonshine and all is forgiven...hehehehe

 

[2Thick]

You are the voice of reason 2thick. It is good that you correct our mistakes when we tell someone to use AS that has no business using it in the first place.

Where is the real ulter and what did you do with him???

 

[2Thick]

Re: is that you 2Thick?

Pushing someone to use a vet drug?
Are you going to the dark side?
LOL

I am trying to pull away but the dark force is too strong...hehehehehe.

 

[mokhtarsayed]

I swear I get more education around here than I got at school. Keep it up you guys. And DAAAA may the force be with you?

 

[Bubba]

And on the lighter side of AS use..........

Some funny shit watching you boys hack away at each other.

 

[The Ranger]

Not really hacking...2Thick is wrong, and I'm right...as usual of course....heh heh heh...

Ranger