football and gear.

[CrazyK]

....Come on dude, lets not turn this into a white men cant jump thread, there are just as many white genetically gifted men as there are black genetically gifted. some choose to capitalize on their advantages and some choose to sit on the couch and watch tv all day. dont stereotype. really has no place here I dont think.

I agree. This is America, and poltical correctness aside, the black population of the country, for the most part, live in signifigantly more impoverished neighborhood's, and grow up going to school's that are 3rd world at best. So, I'm a black kid sitting in one of these neighborhood's, my three option's are, being poor, being a drug dealer, or being an athlete. For the whitey's you are escorted all the way up through college, so there's a lot less drive there to excel in athletic's cause you have more "outs".

 

[drl]

I'd have to say that this statement has to be one of the dumbest i've heard in a long time.

Mike

riiiiight- i hate to burst your bubble, but i've gone up against black athletes (good ones) my entire life, and a lot of my friends are black- and it's just the way it is. they just have better genetics for strength, muscle mass, and speed- my boys and i have had this conversation, and they always ask me why i juice- to keep up w/ them. how many white guys do you see running the 100 @ the olympics? where did you grow up? wisconsin or iowa or something?lol i grew up in upstate south carolina (same high school as stephen davis; btw he was 6 foot 225 in 9th grade and ran a 4.4) and went to public school (60% black), and it's not a race thing or stereotype, just something that is painfully obvious. i have good genetics, but genetics like mine on a black dude are a dime a dozen, you just don't see many naturally jacked white dudes out there who are over 5'6", and that doesn't count, at least up against people i play ball against. believe me, i am glad i did go up against some of these dudes, tough competition just makes you better. in hs i got up to 210 w/ hard weight training, but a lot of the black dudes on my team who were the same height as me and who had the EXACT same training (started lifting at the same time, etc) i did were 20-30 pounds heavier. i didn't start catching up until i started to juice. i got a BUNCH of friends who are black, and most of them (including the ones i play football w/) are jacked up as hell and don't even know what a steroid looks like. i play outside linebacker and i am about 6'3" 240 and have juiced for a long time. our middle linebacker and other olb are roughly the same size, and they are black and they don't juice- don't need to. don't mean to ruffle any cats' feathers, it's just how it is- if you ever played ball w/ some of these dudes you would figure it out real quick.

 

[MP2050]

I agree with drl here. I remember growing up and wondering why all my black friends were always a lil more cut up and just plain faster and stronger then I was. I was active-I did everything they did but still they always seem to be a step ahead....

I eventually came to the realization that it must be their genetics. I mean even now in the gym all these years later I notice the same thing.

BTW Im 24 and Hispanic....

 

[Rod555]

|ve got to agree on it too. I remember in school playing rugby (which is about as similar to US football as we got) the two black kids on the team were just so much faster and stronger and at 15/16 were pretty much fully grown men. Man, they used to run rings around us. I dont think its racist to suggest that. Its the old nature Vs nurture debate but i strongly beleive that for whatever reason that there is a higher percentage of black males with good genetics than white males.

Its quite possible that races evolved differently depending on their surroundings. For example North affricans tend to be pretty dominant at long distance running, do they have genetically superior lungs? its a possibilty.

 

[tboy72]

the more thinking i do on this topic, the more i start to think that it has a LOT to do with genetics. sure enviornment plays a role, for instance in the inner city its pretty hard to find fields to play baseball at, but basketball hoops are at every school yard! this probably has a lot to do with in disproportionate amount of blacks in basketball.
but then like rod said i remember growing up, and the black guys i hung with were almost always bigger stronger and faster then the white pepole. whats also gets me thinking is there were not that many blacks at my hs, and almost all that i knew were just so much better at sports. it was like men playing with kids at times.
also imo genetics play a part in the we look in general. why are black pepole black, or white white, or asian...........its all our bodys adjusting to our enviornment through evolution.
so it makes me wonder in sports such as pro BB where there are a mix of races, it has to do with aas' making it a more of a even playing field. so maybe this is also why more white athletes use gear, as the pepole here who have said they have played high school and, or college football can attest to

 

[BigGuns29]

You think Ronnie Coleman was genetically gifted , come on. Give hard work some kind of respect.

 

[chewyxrage]

You think Ronnie Coleman was genetically gifted , come on. Give hard work some kind of respect.

Of course he works hard as fuck......but can you honestly say he ISN'T genetically gifted??? LOL

 

[Rod555]

Coleman is a genetic freak! 99% of BBers could never look like that with all the gear and hard work in the world, hence why Colemans No 1. There are thousands of amature BBers who would love to be pros but never will, not because of lack of hard work but lack of freaky mutant genes!

 

[fugetaboutit]

On a purely scientific note, blacks produce more natural testosterone than whites, therefore giving people the assumption that they have better genetics. Maybe that's the case, but as far as testosterone (natural production)is concerned, white people have less of it in their bodies.

 

[slash747]

Id actually would love to see some studies backing up some of this stuff that black people produce more test than whites.

As far as there being more black athletes, well like CrazyK said its a way out of poverty for alot of these athletes. The majority of privelaged people, black or white, are not going to risk it all , life, limbs, to go play ball for the rest of their lives. And as far as all these jacked black people, where the hell are they? I live in NY and no disrespect to the brothers, but the majority of black people I see look malnurished. The only place Ive been where over 90% of the black people were jacked was prison!!

Look slavery resulted in alot black people being paired up to breed with the dominant in their race to provide stronger workers. But I think the point that some are taking this to is exagerated. Let me take a picture of my 34 year old Manager who is black, and looks like hes had one too many doughnuts and never lifted a day in his life, and say well all black people are fat rich guys!!!

Demographics play a key role in this, I can see some of the guys from down south stating how black people are jacked cause well slavery was a big thing down there..

I hope I did not offend anyone cause that was really not my intent....

my .02