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[Mikus]

your right you "cant base all of our civilisation off that experience" but the name of the thread is FOOTBALL players so thoes are the gifted pepole im talking about

Fair enough, i see where you're coming from, and i think you get my points.

So we agree to disagree?

MIke

 

[small but working on it]

Here is a thought to consider. I know this was touched on from others but lets put it all in perspective. First this is in no way intended to offend anyone. We all know that there are black athletes that are crazy big and crazy cut. Take several picks be it, nfl, mlb,nba. I also have played sports and been athletic my entire life and have noticed that blacks(most)seem faster than me and even though I try and work hard I am still a step slow.This may be due to the fact that I personally do not possess the best genetics.I read the theories on this. Some say the slaves were breed with ultimate development in mind and that is why many blacks are genetically gifted. I have even heard that some of the heavy Bryant Gumbel looking guys of today were the result of breeding from workers that worked inside with kitchen and interior work. I am not trying to offend anyone just repeating what I have been told. Kinda makes sense to me.

However, I in no way think that black athletes are BETTER than any race. I know people say how many whites play in the NFL or the NBA . I hear ya. I hear about it all the time. My arguement is just what was mentioned earlier in someones post. The majority(not all) of blacks have very very few choices while growing up. They either graduate hs and get a job, or try to get to college with a full ride from athletics. Still others dont have the desire to go to college and only end up going with an athletic ride. Lets take a look at this for a minute. If I am black and I live in an inner city what do I do for fun? I am broke and want to hang with my friends so I go play basketball(cost 5 dollars for a ball) at the local park all day, every day. I go play football all day(cost 5 dollars for a ball) at the park or in a friends yard. I play baseball all day (cost a stick and tennis ball) in a park somewhere. My point being, black athletes while impressive generally only concentrate on these 3 sports due to the availability of these sports. I know there are runners and other sports but what we generally see is the main 3 basketball, football, baseball. With all of this , how many pro golfers are black in the history of golf? Tiger and Vijay, 2 of thousands and both familes had them playing golf since they could walk.Do I think blacks cant play golf as well as whites? of course not, I do however think whites (in general) have the history of playing that sport and fathers that play it. Whites can afford the money for clubs, lessons,green fees, cleats, etc... Same with any other sport that you dont see blacks playing. Tennis, (the williams sisters played since they were 3 and their father had money for lessons, court time etc.) How about Hockey? Ever see a black guy play hockey? Ever see a black guy in Nascar? How about swimming? How about racquetball or any other sport that costs $$$ to play or get better. I think in summary that all races have the ability to be as good as any. I think about the availability I had as a child. I played everything. I played it all and got good, but never great cause I played so many different sports. I am very good at baseball cause I played it a lot. I also played tennis, golf, did swimming, racquetball,raced cars,hockey,basketball,football,soccer,and boxing as some examples. I am not the best in any sport however I feel confident that I can run with anyone in any of these sports without making myself look bad. I definately wouldnt be the first picked but I would be up there. I just think that there is this misconception that blacks are better athletes because the main 3 that we watch happen to be full of black athletes. Whites in general have so many choices that they may not excel in basketball because they are busy playing tennis some. Kinda like if one guy dates one girl for a long time he is gonna know her inside and out and be able to read everything about her just by looking at her, while the guy who has lots of girls knows a little about them all but isnt as close to any of them. This is just my .2 cents and I hope noone is offended. It is not my intention at all. It is just my observations through the yrs and for the record, I have a friend (black) and we have had this discussion and he agrees to an extent. opinions? No flaming bros, this is just my thoughts.

 

[small but working on it]

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[K13]

that slave thoery is BS. time frame is way to short.

people watch too much tv and think that EVERY black dude must be some super fucken athlete. yes there genetic difference, but not the way people make it out to be.

if your genetics suck you just have to work extra harder.

I see plenty of skinny/short/slow/can't jump black guys too

 

[K13]

i played lot of basketball over the years, never had trouble competing with black guys like the rest of your stories say, I guess my 36-38 inch vertical did help

now that i workout instead, damn calves won't grow

 

[tboy72]

i played lot of basketball over the years, never had trouble competing with black guys like the rest of your stories say, I guess my 36-38 inch vertical did help

now that i workout instead, damn calves won't grow

thats a very good vertical.........what are your stats?
and the slave thing may have some truth to it. think about it. (I AM NOT INTENDING TO OFFEND!) you get a group of lets say dogs, about 100. you find the 2 biggest, strongest in the group. they have a litter of 5 dogs and lets say 2 of them are superior to the others. you take the 2 superior dogs and keep on breeding withh then and the cream of there offspring. after just a few generations of this kind of breeding you will have dogs that are a lot bigger and stronger then the original population. is this not true????????????
im not saying doing this with humans is morally right or anything like that, but you really cant argue the facts? can you?

 

[K13]

thats a very good vertical.........what are your stats?
and the slave thing may have some truth to it. think about it. (I AM NOT INTENDING TO OFFEND!) you get a group of lets say dogs, about 100. you find the 2 biggest, strongest in the group. they have a litter of 5 dogs and lets say 2 of them are superior to the others. you take the 2 superior dogs and keep on breeding withh then and the cream of there offspring. after just a few generations of this kind of breeding you will have dogs that are a lot bigger and stronger then the original population. is this not true????????????
im not saying doing this with humans is morally right or anything like that, but you really cant argue the facts? can you?

at time of vertical 6' 150
right now 6' 210

the slave thing would work, but evolution takes many years,i might find an ariticle, cause it has been discussed many times.

 

[slash747]

heh, isnt this how breeding works now with everyone? I know when im looking to plant my seed im looking for a strong well built woman with some big titties and a big ass!!

thats a very good vertical.........what are your stats?
and the slave thing may have some truth to it. think about it. (I AM NOT INTENDING TO OFFEND!) you get a group of lets say dogs, about 100. you find the 2 biggest, strongest in the group. they have a litter of 5 dogs and lets say 2 of them are superior to the others. you take the 2 superior dogs and keep on breeding withh then and the cream of there offspring. after just a few generations of this kind of breeding you will have dogs that are a lot bigger and stronger then the original population. is this not true????????????
im not saying doing this with humans is morally right or anything like that, but you really cant argue the facts? can you?

 

[therockrt72]

Id actually would love to see some studies backing up some of this stuff that black people produce more test than whites.

As far as there being more black athletes, well like CrazyK said its a way out of poverty for alot of these athletes. The majority of privelaged people, black or white, are not going to risk it all , life, limbs, to go play ball for the rest of their lives. And as far as all these jacked black people, where the hell are they? I live in NY and no disrespect to the brothers, but the majority of black people I see look malnurished. The only place Ive been where over 90% of the black people were jacked was prison!!

Look slavery resulted in alot black people being paired up to breed with the dominant in their race to provide stronger workers. But I think the point that some are taking this to is exagerated. Let me take a picture of my 34 year old Manager who is black, and looks like hes had one too many doughnuts and never lifted a day in his life, and say well all black people are fat rich guys!!!

Demographics play a key role in this, I can see some of the guys from down south stating how black people are jacked cause well slavery was a big thing down there..

I hope I did not offend anyone cause that was really not my intent....

my .02

you live in ny

come down to texas
"where everything is bigger"
that saying is no bullshit either

 

[slash747]

Which is why I said demographics is a big part in this. Then again everyone is bigger in texas. All that red meat!!

you live in ny

come down to texas
"where everything is bigger"
that saying is no bullshit either