Food For Thought...From a Pro

[maxpain]

I personally would take to heart what advise Ulter had over about 99.9% of others here. You can tell he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

 

[ATLmuscles]

Tryn2
...The pro-type cycles and contest preps don't fly here anymore because there was a shift in the board from hard core weight trainers and competitors to guys who just want to impress the bitches. ..

Ulter is 100% right. I returned to this board after not posting for over a year, and it has changed for the worse. I've posted this myslef before, asking, if all the guys on here use gear just to get laid. It does seem like that, and it seems like there is an awful lot of IMMATURITY that goes with thoes attitudes. There was not all this bickering and name-calling on this list before, and I've been considering pulling my plat and going elsewhere as I don't seem to get much benefit from most of the posts on here, ie. "Critique my first cycle," "Which is better, Anadrol or Dbol," "How big are your arms,"
etc. etc. etc.

Second of all, most bodybuilders are lying hypocritical assholes when it comes to talking about gear. I read in FLEX, when Tom Prince was first dealing with his kidney failure, that he spent $1,600 on four months worth of gear. WHAT THE FUCK!!??? I credit him for talking about it at all, but $1,600 might buy an Olympia contender a weeks' worth of gear!! Give me a fucking break! THe drugs pros use go far and beyond the level of what's discussed on this board, but it seems that very few on here are serious about competing or attaining bodybuilding goals, they just want to get puffed up a bit so they look pretty on the beach and get laid. Sad.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Ulter is 100% right. I returned to this board after not posting for over a year, and it has changed for the worse. I've posted this myslef before, asking, if all the guys on here use gear just to get laid. It does seem like that, and it seems like there is an awful lot of IMMATURITY that goes with thoes attitudes. There was not all this bickering and name-calling on this list before, and I've been considering pulling my plat and going elsewhere as I don't seem to get much benefit from most of the posts on here, ie. "Critique my first cycle," "Which is better, Anadrol or Dbol," "How big are your arms,"
etc. etc. etc.

Second of all, most bodybuilders are lying hypocritical assholes when it comes to talking about gear. I read in FLEX, when Tom Prince was first dealing with his kidney failure, that he spent $1,600 on four months worth of gear. WHAT THE FUCK!!??? I credit him for talking about it at all, but $1,600 might buy an Olympia contender a weeks' worth of gear!! Give me a fucking break! THe drugs pros use go far and beyond the level of what's discussed on this board, but it seems that very few on here are serious about competing or attaining bodybuilding goals, they just want to get puffed up a bit so they look pretty on the beach and get laid. Sad.

True...this board does have some issues regarding the members and goals etc, glad im not paying for it

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Ulter kolego your are100% correct.

I will make this post fairly short as i do not like eating with 1 hand and typing with the other, and i am hungry. First as allways is Genetics, then eating then training then rest then juice. There are freaks out there. However...lol ....i pitty the fool who tries to tell me that pros are on 400 mg a week or even 2 grams a week. I had the pleasure of meeting some big people that ou have eighter heard about or not but that are in the game a long tiem and are truly monsters. Point is they lie to people. But if ou realy know them then you know their cycles etc. I think i can sum it up in a sentance. I asked 1 pro what doses he takes, he replied.....first tell me what you take with a smile....i was on 1.2g test and some deca+ alittle tren at the time( afairly potent cycle) total 2.4 or so grams...he replied....i pretty much do the same...paused......and then said Each Day. Now not all pros ar ethi scrazy but between me and you on of at least 10 pros and amateurs/pros i know each are bascally on more gear then most of the members on this board have even heard about...just some first hand knowlege.....but im sure that some one will say.....wtf do you know man lee priest is on 400 deca a week..!.. :

 

[Triple J]

i liked what conte from balco said about hyper responders. if there are hyper responders there must also be hypo responders. the point for a newbie is to find out how your body responds. my message for the newbies is don't just assume you need to jump to a big cycle cause you seen some experienced bro doing that. see cause he's been through the learning curve you havn't. EVERYONE always analyze and evaluate everything your doing before deciding the answer is more drugs.

follow the process like all my true brothers in iron, more power to ya.

 

[pitbullstl]

Ulter kolego your are100% correct.

I will make this post fairly short as i do not like eating with 1 hand and typing with the other, and i am hungry. First as allways is Genetics, then eating then training then rest then juice. There are freaks out there. However...lol ....i pitty the fool who tries to tell me that pros are on 400 mg a week or even 2 grams a week. I had the pleasure of meeting some big people that ou have eighter heard about or not but that are in the game a long tiem and are truly monsters. Point is they lie to people. But if ou realy know them then you know their cycles etc. I think i can sum it up in a sentance. I asked 1 pro what doses he takes, he replied.....first tell me what you take with a smile....i was on 1.2g test and some deca+ alittle tren at the time( afairly potent cycle) total 2.4 or so grams...he replied....i pretty much do the same...paused......and then said Each Day. Now not all pros ar ethi scrazy but between me and you on of at least 10 pros and amateurs/pros i know each are bascally on more gear then most of the members on this board have even heard about...just some first hand knowlege.....but im sure that some one will say.....wtf do you know man lee priest is on 400 deca a week..!.. :

There are two guys I train with every few months (or as often as can get down there), one's in Dallas (pro), and the other is in Florida (pro)...and neither one of them is Curly Top (sorry AAP).......one of them has been using upwards of 5 grams a month for a long......long... time.....in fact, I'm pretty sure his liver slid out his ass while we were doing deads......

The point is.........the overusage of AAS is rampant in the IFBB, AND YOUR LOCAL GYM (hmmmm did I say this before).....everyone...and I mean EVERYONE.....lies about what they use......shit the one time I got bookoo crazy with the shit a few years ago, there were only two people who knew the amount of gear I was on........ME...and MY SOURCE. I will not say more is better, because in my case it wasn't.....but I ain't a pro....and I never could be....(despite all the nice things you guys say about my back )

Trial and error girls......that's what it's all about....

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Paul doesnt mind you posting that up??

The bottom line here concerning roid use is that it is not how much you use, but rather how many androgen receptors you are born with.

Some people can take a little bit of juice and simply explode. I know a former pro BBer who never took more than 400mg test and 400mg weekly from his teenage years, to the time he won the nationals, to all his competitions. when he came back to compete in teh Masters O a couple years ago, he had not touched juice in about 5 years and he still did the same cycle with GH thrown in the last three weeks and he gained 22 pounds of muscle in five months. I think we know what three weeks of GH will do. Nothing.

Paul Baker here in Ft Lauderdale, IFBB pro, take 600mg test cyp weekly year around. This dude easily weighs 320 pounds off season.

 

[thelegacy again]

I dont believe for one second that a 320 lb pro bodybuilder is using less than the average guy "its all diet training rest blah blah blah" these guys are lying there asses off...I know Eric Fromm who competes in nationals and all you have to do is look at these guys to know that 1 gram of test is childs play--Id say a more accurate assumption is 1 gram per day along with whatever else they shoot themselves with. These guys are so juiced to the gills they are walking nuclear waste dumps. I met Gunter and to say he uses average amounts is just ridiculous. Im not trying to be a jerk but i get a little tired of hearing all the time that its 5% drugs and the rest diet and all that other stuff-------dont get me wrong diet and everything else is more important than drugs but lets get off our imaginary clouds and realize drugs plays a much bigger role than we say.

 

[AAP]

Paul doesnt mind you posting that up??

Paul has stated this himself in various magazines and seminars.

 

[AAP]

and neither one of them is Curly Top (sorry AAP).......

You don't know a real pro then. Hmmph!