Food For Thought...From a Pro

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

As I've said a few times before on this board, I know IFBB Pro and this year's Arnold Classic invite Mark Dugdale. Recently I got down to business with him and talked about gear. I told him how much I take and what I've been taking. Waiting to hear back some crazy amount of gear and HGH he takes, I was stunned when he said I TOOK MORE THAN HIM! (Which at the time was about a gram)...He also told me the following, "Just go with what works for you, but I will say that you take more than I do. The secret is not in the drugs - it's in all the small things that make up the word discipline over the course of a year. Diet (7 quality meals a day - minimum), proper training and adequate rest is what will get you to your goals. I "out-progressed" fellow competitors because I did one extra rep when they quit, ate one extra meal in the off-season while they felt too full and skipped, I went to bed and got 10 hours of sleep while they went out on Friday night and got 4... Do you get the idea? In a sport that pushes the level of excellence - every minute detail matters!"

Interesting for sure, I'll be hittin the sack a little earlier these next few months.

 

[wellbilt]

good post i have been preaching this all along its not how much you take its what you do while your taking it!

 

[bbkingpinn]

I believe that. Anyone can take a gram of test per week and look like garbage!

 

[LVTitan]

yeah look at me, i got this body from 1.5grams of gear a week for 12 weeks!!!!
bigger is better...




































i'm kidding.

 

[wellbilt]

for sure bro i se it all the time i n the gym people taking all sorts of shit and not getting the results they expect because training and diet just plain suck

 

[ohashi]

That's what every level-headed person on these forums has been saying for years, and yet, we still have "respected" fuck-shits crying that 500mg a week is not even enough for a first cycle and first-timers should go for a gram, and keep up above it. In fact, with three or four exceptions, everyone on this forum who uses a gram or more looks like a fat pile of shit instead of a bodybuilder.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

That's what every level-headed person on these forums has been saying for years, and yet, we still have "respected" fuck-shits crying that 500mg a week is not even enough for a first cycle and first-timers should go for a gram, and keep up above it. In fact, with three or four exceptions, everyone on this forum who uses a gram or more looks like a fat pile of shit instead of a bodybuilder.

OOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHH!!!

 

[LVTitan]

OOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHH!!!

haha, you fat pile of shit !!

 

[pitbullstl]

Ehhh......and to his credit that's awseome, but he's the exception. I've talked to multiple pros, and two well respected ones in great detail about their AAS usage, once we got past all the..initial BS...I was shocked at the amount of shit they were using, but even more so at the lack of time off they took.

I've used over a gram in the past, in my case saw no greater results, than when using moderate amounts. I got my best gains off of varying my compounds.

What your buddy is saying is SO TRUE. The training, the diet, and for sure the recovery are far more important, but using retarded amounts of AAS is still rampant in the IFBB, and more astonishingly so.....at your local gym.

 

[Ulter]

That's what every level-headed person on these forums has been saying for years, and yet, we still have "respected" fuck-shits crying that 500mg a week is not even enough for a first cycle and first-timers should go for a gram, and keep up above it. In fact, with three or four exceptions, everyone on this forum who uses a gram or more looks like a fat pile of shit instead of a bodybuilder.

3 or 4 exceptions? I know a couple dozen myself so I think you're just unaware of what many people look like here. We sponsor 6 people on this board that are national competitors. You don't get there looking like "a pile of shit".




The reason people say to use more than 500mg for a first cycle is that that is what the people who built the monsters all say. The early guys like Duchaine I mean. The average guy has no business using more than that because the fact is the vast majority of the people here are not going to compete and just want "the bitches" to look at them. For them 500mg is fine.
But there is no way you're going to be a heavy weight competitor on that. And any 300 pound national or pro competitor that says he never used as much as a gram is lying.
If you saw the hotel rooms of the competitors of the O with everyone scrambling to get an IV running with plasma expanders before they go on stage you'd know how full of shit most of them are about what they use and what lengths they go to to look like they do. Dorian Yates' cycle was posted once upon a time, years ago, and it was well over 5 grams.