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First Tren cycle

LostCauze

LostCauze

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Hey guys,
I'm looking to run my first tren cycle starting around July. Planning to make it a short cycle (8weeks). Trying to see how I respond to tren. This will be my 4th aas cycle.

Here's my rough layout:
Tren Ace: 50mg EoD week 1-8
Test E: 250mg/w week 1-6 (not sure if i should lower test dose)

Support supps:
Adex- .25mg ed starting around week 4 (i get gyno from test easy)
Caber .5 mg 2x week
Tuarine (not sure on dosing)

PCT: (I respond very well to this PCT)
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma 8pumps 2x day

Other supps on hand
HCGen

Looking to get some opinions on my dosing, support supps, etc. Any help would be appreciated!

25yo 187 lbs 10%bf (or less) height 5'10"
 
Going to start pct after last tren pin. I'm running test e so that will continue to be in my system until the 8th week if I stop use at week 6

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Don't like it @ all....I'd run this with prop 8 weeks test/6 tren

You need prami or caber with the tren

Start HCGenertae around week 5 and thru PCT
PCT:
Forma Stanzol
Unleashed/Post Cycle combo
 
Not really looking to get into prop for this cycle. It's more of a cycle to see how I respond to tren. I know how I respond to test e so I'm more comfortable sticking with that instead of prop.

Why run tren for only 6 weeks vs the 8 weeks?

I have caber on hand. Does the .5mg 2x a week sound like a suitable dosing?


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Thanks for the input fellas.
So does my dosing look to be okay for a first run?

Also still curious why tren for only 6 weeks vs the entire 8?

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bonacris said:
I would go 75 mg EoD at least

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You think that's low enough for a first run?
You think 200 is good for test? Was told if I keep test low it will keep sides down.

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LostCauze said:
You think that's low enough for a first run?
You think 200 is good for test? Was told if I keep test low it will keep sides down.

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I like trt test runs. 100 mg.
 
Test @250mg a week
Tren @ 350mg or more a week

That's how I would do it

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LostCauze said:
In your experience does the lower test keep any potential sides down?

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I only ran 1 ace cycle and it was a mix. I'm on enanth now but only 10 days in. In the logs I've read and the science I've seen. TRT dose is the most logical. TRT dose should keep you functioning like you would naturally. Tren is 5x more androgenic and anabolic than test. Why would you want the test competing for the receptor? If you have a 2 car garage; why would you consider a hyundai next to a Ferrari when you can fill the spot with 2 ferraris. I'm not completely opposed to 200-300, but I think TRT is the best option. Also, pin every day with ace.
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
I like trt test runs. 100 mg.
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Same here. I've ran only my continuous HRT dose of Test on my Tren blasts for some time now, really helps to keep sides under control. Though I tend to run my Test doses pretty low in general.

I've also noticed a huge difference in side effects when running Tren with DHTs like Masteron or Winny. I doubt that I will ever run Tren again without stacking it with Masteron, which is other one of my favorites just like Tren is. Of course this isn't something that will work with everyone, just something that I've learned along the way.

So IMO/IME Def. Keep Test low the whole time, start Tren low and up your dose depending on how you feel/handle it, and if you feel that the total amount of AAS is too low, don't up your Test dose but instead rather add Masteron or Winstrol. One other thing that has helped me tremendously to avoid sides on Tren is remember to keep your blood sugar level stable ie. by drinking small amounts of apple juice, or eating dextrose pills throughout the day (thanks to Stevesmi for this one).

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
 
northernknight said:
Same here. I've ran only my continuous HRT dose of Test on my Tren blasts for some time now, really helps to keep sides under control. Though I tend to run my Test doses pretty low in general.

I've also noticed a huge difference in side effects when running Tren with DHTs like Masteron or Winny. I doubt that I will ever run Tren again without stacking it with Masteron, which is other one of my favorites just like Tren is. Of course this isn't something that will work with everyone, just something that I've learned along the way.

So IMO/IME Def. Keep Test low the whole time, start Tren low and up your dose depending on how you feel/handle it, and if you feel that the total amount of AAS is too low, don't up your Test dose but instead rather add Masteron or Winstrol. One other thing that has helped me tremendously to avoid sides on Tren is remember to keep your blood sugar level stable ie. by drinking small amounts of apple juice, or eating dextrose pills throughout the day (thanks to Stevesmi for this one).

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
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thank you guys so much for the response!

Okay so does this look like a good first tren run?

8 week cycle
Week 1-6 Test e 125mg week (mines dosed at 250 so 125 is easy to measure)
Week 1-8 Tren start at 50mg eod up it if sides are okay

If I decide to throw in mast what dosing would you suggest? Never ran mast before


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LostCauze said:
thank you guys so much for the response!

Okay so does this look like a good first tren run?

8 week cycle
Week 1-6 Test e 125mg week (mines dosed at 250 so 125 is easy to measure)
Week 1-8 Tren start at 50mg eod up it if sides are okay

If I decide to throw in mast what dosing would you suggest? Never ran mast before


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I like mast at the tail. That's Dylan's bread and butter. It really shines at the second half of a cutter or recomp. You should cut your ace in half and pin ED. 24-36 hour half life. I've seen some logs where that has minimized sides further.
 
I like your supports but I like aromasin better. I'd get caber too. Also,get bloods done and keep an eye on thyroid. If it flops throw some t3 at 25 mics in there. All of the above are found at www.ag-guys.com. GW 501516 is great for combating tren lethargy. Www.Sarms1.com is where i get mine. Hcgenerate and n2guard are found at www.needtobuildmuscle.com for on cycle support. I like keeping the tren at 125.
 
LostCauze said:
In your experience does the lower test keep any potential sides down?

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I did tren 100eod and test 300 twice a week...respond very well..no side except night sweat but it was'nt a problem to me! Each react diferentely. Srry for my english ahah.
 
Thanks a lot for the input guys!

Fizz,
You think I should get mast on hand or nah? This is gonna be a summer lean bulk. I'm already lean enough and will probably be leaner when the time for the cycle comes around (6-8% I'm guessing). This being my first run with tren I'm not sure if I should throw it in. If I get sides though and it helps out I see no harm in it.

I'll keep the ed injections in mind. I'll start with oed if I experience sides I'll switch to ed injections to see if that helps.

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I like what im seeing here. Im gonna go for my second cycle this summer if not itll be all set in the winter. Tren e 200mg week with masteron p first 4 weeks and win 50 ed the last 4. If they both are good to hold tren sides to a minimum, its all gold. Summer come forth. Good luck with your cycle!
 
LostCauze said:
Thanks a lot for the input guys!

Fizz,
You think I should get mast on hand or nah? This is gonna be a summer lean bulk. I'm already lean enough and will probably be leaner when the time for the cycle comes around (6-8% I'm guessing). This being my first run with tren I'm not sure if I should throw it in. If I get sides though and it helps out I see no harm in it.

I'll keep the ed injections in mind. I'll start with oed if I experience sides I'll switch to ed injections to see if that helps.

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At that bodyfat I'd be pissed off if you didn't. Definitely tail off with the mast.
 
LostCauze said:
Haha that's enough for me. So which week should I start the mast? And dosing

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Check out Dillons thread where he discussed his stack and posted progress pictures.
 
Anyone else have input of experience with tailing mast at the end of the cycle?
Would running 50mg/eod be enough?
How many weeks would you recommend running it (at the tail of the cycle)?

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LostCauze said:
Anyone else have input of experience with tailing mast at the end of the cycle?
Would running 50mg/eod be enough?
How many weeks would you recommend running it (at the tail of the cycle)?

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Out of town or I would have researched it more. I ran mast in a cut mix but at low dose and my main reasoning was because it had tren ace and prop in it. Here is how Dylan Ran it:
 
Ur mixing short n long esters plus it's a short cycle n very low tren. This cycle needs a lot of work. Simplify it.

Tren e 300mg a week for 10 weeks
Test e 150mg a week for 10 weeks
And make sure u got all ur on cycle n post cycle goodies ready to roll
 
ozcroboy said:
Ur mixing short n long esters plus it's a short cycle n very low tren. This cycle needs a lot of work. Simplify it.

Tren e 300mg a week for 10 weeks
Test e 150mg a week for 10 weeks
And make sure u got all ur on cycle n post cycle goodies ready to roll
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What's wrong with running long and short esters together?
Also I will have enough tren on hand to double my dose if I choose to. I will base my dosing on my sides

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LostCauze said:
What's wrong with running long and short esters together?
Also I will have enough tren on hand to double my dose if I choose to. I will base my dosing on my sides

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You are good bro. Just trt your test.
 
EZ_E said:
Don't like it @ all....I'd run this with prop 8 weeks test/6 tren

You need prami or caber with the tren

Start HCGenertae around week 5 and thru PCT
PCT:
Forma Stanzol
Unleashed/Post Cycle combo
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Agreed 110%.
 
There is nothing wrong with mixing esters, though I would personally run it with either prop or suspension.

If you want to run a longer ester test, like the Enan ... then rather change your cycle up as follows:

Week 1-10: TestE at 250mg/week
Week 3-10: TrenA at 50mg EOD initially. If you can cope with the sides, then up the dosage to 75mg EOD.
Have your caber on hand for the Tren, even though it is a short ester and also have Aromasin or Adex on hand for Test sides, even though the dosage there is quite low.
 
started my cycle yesterday fellas. didnt have any reason to wait until june lol. doing 50mg tren ed 250mg test week and running 20mg var a day
 
Haha yeah when I read that I was like June? Shit, why wait! I just started my tren, 3 shots in and I can't wait for it to kick in full blast!
 
Oliol said:
How often do you plan on injecting the test mate? Once a week? :)
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Haha you're just dying for someone to say they do it once a week aren't you? Bro if you're already doing the tren 3+ times a week why is it so difficult to add a lil test to 2 of them?
 
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