FIRST TIMER would this be enough

[thebackyardcat]

if its my first time on roids, and i have access to legit test enanthate and legit dbol how much of each is needed and for how long to gain 10-15lbs of body weight, and a considerable amount of strength.

Thanks, i am into powerlifting and have been for the last six years.

right now i am about 245lbs at 6 feet and wanna go up to 255 -260ish and stay at that weight. i will be doing a good clomid therapy at the end.

thanks bros

 

[jubei]

Since you are a big boy I would suggest the following:

Week 1-4 25mg dbol ed
Week 1-2 750mg test enth
Week 3-12 500mg test enth

 

[02gixxersix]

Well first off I would like to say go do some more research before you put anything in ur body. second of all forget about the d-bol and just run the test. run 400 mg's per week for ten weeks. your gains will depend on ur diet and training, not necessarily the drugs. you will easily gain that much probably more but a lot of it may end up being water weight so you know dont really count ur gains until u come off. good luck bro, welcome to ur new love.

 

[MeLikeProp]

i would do it
dbol 25mg ED week 1-4
Test Enth week 1- 12 500mg

u do not need anymore than that since you are a newbie...but u need to research and learn about post therapy and how to inject as well as eat while on

 

[thebackyardcat]

i was thinking of this

week 1 750mg test enanthate
week 2 500mg test enanthate
week 3-8 250 test enanthate

and weeks 1-8 25mg dbol.

 

[Maxx Out]

Re: i was thinking of this

week 1 750mg test enanthate
week 2 500mg test enanthate
week 3-8 250 test enanthate

and weeks 1-8 25mg dbol.

This looks good. Only thing I'd chang is the d-bol to 5-6weeks, no need to do 8 weeks.

 

[Texas Ranger]

First I must ask, how old are you? If you're younger than 21-25, you DO NOT need to be taking any AS, right now. I'm guessing you fall somewhere near there, so this is what I would do. Test Enanthate@500mgs for 8-10 weeks and Dbol@25mgs ED for the first 4 weeks. No need to frontload on your First Cycle. Train hard, eat 5-7 times a day(Lots of Protein, Complex Carbs, and Fat), and REST. You will GROW!!!

 

[SofaGeorge]

Ignore anyone who tells you to do d-bol for less than 8 weeks. This is a myth of the paranoid. Everyone in the '60s, '70s, and '80s did 8 weekers on d-bol with no problems. The "myth" that it damaged your liver if you went beyond 4 weeks was created by the muscle mag wannage-Dan-Duchaine-types and it won't die.

Always take d-bol for 8 weeks. (Longer doesn't yield gains.)

Run the test at 500mg a week for your full cycle.

 

[stonecold54]

okay I may be alone on this one but the guy said that he only wanted around 10-15 pounds of weight I am assuming he is adding in the water weight he will gain. but jeez 500 mg for a first cycle when he doesn't have huge weight goals yet. Bro I would use 300 mg of test for 10-12 weeks. you can use dbol if you want, I wouldn't, but the strength will come quick with D. I put on about 20 pounds in a month my first cycle on 6 AMPS of SUST. go easy your first cycle. keep it cheap and healthy. good luck. oh yeah and eat like a horse.

 

[stonecold54]

oh and one more thing make sure you are careful with your poundages when powerlifting on juice because your muscles will out grow your tendons/ligaments. don't get injured.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

why not follow the lead of the NEJM and run 600mg for 10 or 20 weeks

 

[Tricepratus]

I am with guys that say you dont need Dbol stuff, because is your first cycle . It is a very strong compund, so be easy in your first attempt to anabolic world. I recommend you 500-750 mg each week of Test enant. Keep your protein high and training with intensity and you will have not problem in reach those goals

 

[stonecold54]

KEY WORD= FIRST CYCLE

500-750 A WEEK. he only wants 10-15 pounds. we should give answers based on peoples goals. that is why we ask them what they are.

 

[serge]

if its my first time on roids, and i have access to legit test enanthate and legit dbol how much of each is needed and for how long to gain 10-15lbs of body weight, and a considerable amount of strength.

Thanks, i am into powerlifting and have been for the last six years.

right now i am about 245lbs at 6 feet and wanna go up to 255 -260ish and stay at that weight. i will be doing a good clomid therapy at the end.

thanks bros

400mg/test/week
20-30mg/dbol/ed

will do the trick

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Stonecold is right guys. This is his first cycle!!! He doesn't need shit to blow up. Skip the d-bol (keep it around for a later cycle). Run a nice concervative 400 mg of test a week for 10 weeks, then do your post cycle with clomid and liquidex. You should easily be able to keep 15 ibs afterwards. I wouldn't bother with the d-bol until you have a couple of cycles under your belt and you don't seem to be making large gains on 400-600 mg of test. I'm not saying that 1000+ mgs of test a week with 50 mg of d-bol ed doesn't have its place... it just a waste for you at this point. Why spend the $$$ and deal with the side effects when you can easily achieve your goals on alot less? Just my 2 cc's...

 

[serge]

im putting one of my bros on:

300mg nandrolone phenyl-prop/week
15mg/dbol/ed
w/latro to eliminate aromatization

1st cycle

 

[thebackyardcat]

what would happen if

i just took a shot of week of test enanthate for 8 weeks.

because i only have access to icn or schering test which is 250mg, so i can't be doing this 300 or 400mg doses, its either 250 or 500mg. and do i really need 500mg of test for 8 weeks to gain 15lbs, or can it be done with a shot a week for 8 weeks with a solid diet and training.

thanks

 

[stonecold54]

go for it that sounds fine. you will like the results.

 

[psychedout]

Week 1-10 or 12 Test Enanthate 500mg/week(250mg shot twice)
Week 1-6 Dbol 25 mg/day

The usual clomid therapy.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Stone Cold & BBF, are RIGHT! Just run Test Enanthate(500mgs/wk) at 2 amps a week for 8 weeks and follow up with Clomid Therapy. Keep it simple, brother! With a good diet, you will reach your goal(10-15lbs).

 

[stonecold54]

actually I told him to use 250 a week but whos keeping track.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Christ, why the hell are there so many guys telling him to run 500mg of test a week plus dbol for a FIRST CYCLE. Honestly, how many of you guys ran 500mg of test a week for your first cycle? Now how many of ran much lower and still blew up?

If he can't gain 10-15lbs on around 350mg of test a week, then there's a problem with his diet, training or both. Seems like he knows how to train, and from his current weight it seems like he knows how to eat.

 

[galaxy]

I know people who gain 15-20lbs easy on one amp of primoteston 250 a week. You dont need much first time.

 

[Juice Authority]

Ignore anyone who tells you to do d-bol for less than 8 weeks. This is a myth of the paranoid. Everyone in the '60s, '70s, and '80s did 8 weekers on d-bol with no problems. The "myth" that it damaged your liver if you went beyond 4 weeks was created by the muscle mag wannage-Dan-Duchaine-types and it won't die.

Always take d-bol for 8 weeks. (Longer doesn't yield gains.)

Run the test at 500mg a week for your full cycle.

Leaving the liver toxicity issue aside, doesn't d-bol lose its efficacy after 6 weeks (the law of diminishing return)? I don't mean to say that it stops working after 6 weeks but results are significantly less after the 6th week comparatively speaking. Why do you suggest 8 weeks on D-bol?

 

[SofaGeorge]

Leaving the liver toxicity issue aside, doesn't d-bol lose its efficacy after 6 weeks (the law of diminishing return)? I don't mean to say that it stops working after 6 weeks but results are significantly less after the 6th week comparatively speaking. Why do you suggest 8 weeks on D-bol?

I usually see d-bol strength gains into week 7... hence I stop at week 8.

 

[SanFrancisconewb]

I am a first timer also and am curious about the side effects of test and where it is injected. Im not looking for amazing results. I am 6 ft at 30 years old. I am 165 lbs, but almost no fat as i dropped 15 lbs of it a few months ago. It sounds like a good starting point but i don't know where to go after those forst few weeks. I continue to research onb this site but its pretty confusing and cryptic. God i know i sound like a pathetic newb.

 

[jubei]

For a guy your size I would want 500mg of test for 10 weeks and 20-25 mg of dbol for 4 weeks. If you were 170lbs I'd say go with 375mg but your a big heavy boy.

 

[stonecold54]

I really don't think the size of a guy has much to do with dosages for a first cycle. he obviously reached that size naturally so any kind of supplementation with test will make him grow bigger. that has always bothered me. the only time larger amounts are needed is when you stop gaining on a certain amount of drug (though there are other avenues to check like training and diet).