hehateme000 said:^^^^^yea get ur diet on track...that will help a lot. you can get to 185 then do a cycle. but for a first cycle if ur tryin to bulk just do 500mg testosterone enanthate EW for 10 weeks and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - weeks 1 - 4 to kick start it
xrsist said:you should try food food and more food bro. 5'11 at 165 there is plenty of room for more food.
whats your current diet look like?
inkt79 said:I eat 6 to 7 times a day... start with 3 plain pancakes at 6am and a wey protein shake.... next meal at 8am is a bowl of kashi cereal with fat free milk... After that I eat about a cup lf yougurt with fruit at 10am then lunch at noon is usually a roast beef and turkey sandwich with fat free cheese on whole grain bread. Next I will have a whole grain bagel or another sandwich around 4:30pm. Dinner is usually the last time I eat for the day and what I eat varies a from a salad to hamburger helper and it's usually around 7. I am pretty thin overall but I do have some belly fat that I want to lose as I bulk up which is why I'm eating so little fat! Thanks for your reply!
inkt79 said:I eat 6 to 7 times a day... start with 3 plain pancakes at 6am and a wey protein shake.... next meal at 8am is a bowl of kashi cereal with fat free milk... After that I eat about a cup lf yougurt with fruit at 10am then lunch at noon is usually a roast beef and turkey sandwich with fat free cheese on whole grain bread. Next I will have a whole grain bagel or another sandwich around 4:30pm. Dinner is usually the last time I eat for the day and what I eat varies a from a salad to hamburger helper and it's usually around 7. I am pretty thin overall but I do have some belly fat that I want to lose as I bulk up which is why I'm eating so little fat! Thanks for your reply!
xrsist said:you do not need that much gear for a first cycle
hehateme000 said:A lot of people did that for their first cycle and a lot of people still do its fine imo as soon as his diet and training are in check.
hehateme000 said:A lot of people did that for their first cycle and a lot of people still do its fine imo as soon as his diet and training are in check.
hehateme000 said:A lot of people did that for their first cycle and a lot of people still do its fine imo as soon as his diet and training are in check.
hehateme000 said:yea 250 is not bad either....hes already 28 once his diet is in check and he gets to 185-190 naturally i would run more than 250 imo...everyone is different and for your first cycle you should stick with one compound but at a dose where you will see more gains and the same sides. maybe not the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for this round :/
eddymerckx said:you asked before why your karma was in the red--this is why. i gave you some green, but don't blow it with bad advice.![]()
xrsist said:your starting to sound like someone else who used to post here..
you didnt answer my question? if 500mg of test and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - was your first cycle then what have your other cycle looked like?
xrsist said:if his diet and training were in check and i mean seriously in check not some half assed attempt like you would employ, you do not need that much gear. 250mg a week of test puts 4-5x more testosterone in you body than it produces, so if you cant grow with that much more test in your system something is wrong or it could be that he may want the tough guy approach to anabolic androgenic steroids like you employ.
if thats your first cycle, what have your other cycles looked like?
hehateme000 said:i dont remember saying that was my first cycle
hehateme000 said:haha yea...well we dont need to blow it out of proportion. its not "bad" advice its just my opinion no one can really have true advice since you dont know how people will ever react. some people have made very good gains off 500mg testosterone enanthate EW for 10 weeks.
eddymerckx said:yes, it is bad advice: if he has a bad reaction to the testosterone enanthate, it is both a long ester and a high dose so the bad reaction will linger for a long time.
which is why you start low--and even better with sustenon so the long ester is minimal and the majority is metabolized fast
hehateme000 said:im recommending something good for him. it wouldnt matter if i had done it or not people react differently. im just saying if ur gonna do one compund make it 500 IMO after reading on here but fuck i might as well quit while im ahead so i dont lose some karma u win bro jus do 250mg INK
xrsist said:how do you know if its good for him if youve never ran it before?
you should have quit while you were ahead 80 odd post ago
please discontinue giving advise when you have no idea what your talking about.

hehateme000 said:hes 28 what side effect is going to be SO bad doing 500mg instead of 250 that he wouldnt be able to deal with for a couple of weeks????
eddymerckx said:if you have to ask that question you have no business giving advice to anyone and obvioulsy have not done any gear or you would know
hehateme000 said:Alright why do people have to flame people so much on this board COME ON!! why should i have quit 80 odd post ago? how are my other posts bad? Why are you so ignorant?![]()
xrsist said:well said nelson.
i apologize to the board if any of my actions were out of line, but imo you cannot have newbies recommending 500mg and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - first cycle when they havent ran a first cycle them selfs.
cheers boys
eddymerckx said:i don't think you were out of line at all--i have come to realize that so many more people read these threads than actually post, so advice needs to be based on actual hard knowledge or that gained by years of use. k to you
hesnobradpitt said:Thats right its great to ask Q's about anything but only give advice about things you've used or are using because some one can be hurt through ban advice maybe not directle but indirecly through reading a bad post .
Brad.
xrsist said:drop the pankakes and have eggs for bfast, drop the cereal and eat oatmeal with protein powder. drink a protein shake before bed. just remember what ever you eat make sure it has a reasonably high amount of protein in it and no carbs before bed.
hows your training program?
eddymerckx said:if you have to ask that question you have no business giving advice to anyone and obvioulsy have not done any gear or you would know
hehateme000 said:im recommending something good for him. it wouldnt matter if i had done it or not people react differently. im just saying if ur gonna do one compund make it 500 IMO after reading on here but fuck i might as well quit while im ahead so i dont lose some karma u win bro jus do 250mg INK
If you did a first cycle of Dianabol, and anadrol and didnt get any results than it's 1 of two thigs, or two of two things..inkt79 said:I've tried debol and anadrol in pill form but had little to no results... I'm concidering trying something in liquid form... I'm a 28 yr old male, 5' 11" and 165 lbs. Does anybody have any suggestions on what I should try?
Xrsist i swear you are one of the Coolest BRO's on this board..you speak the truth, your not Recklace, and you give good sound advice that you have personal Knowlage of ! I dont understand what is happening to this board over the last month...It's like sombody gave EF access to a bunch of Hormone raging TEENAGERS ! (HEY what does this pill do...Let me try one )xrsist said:i notice you havent answered my last question once again but i will happily answer your questions..
q1. because you have no idea what your talking about
q2. because you have no idea what your talking about
q3. im not ignorant i just cant sit here and let you dish out advise to a guy when you dont know what your talking about
I don't know were you got your HRT info, but usally 100mg is HRT bro !hehateme000 said:shut down your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - for WHAT????? why would you take 250 when 200 is the HRT dose. Didnt dave palumbo say do 100mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - EOD for a first cycle??? 500 is a reasonable amount that will get u great gains with the same sides as 250. HOnestly what did all u guys run as ur first cycle?? i know a lot of people did more than 250
hehateme000 said:shut down your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - for WHAT????? why would you take 250 when 200 is the HRT dose. Didnt dave palumbo say do 100mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - EOD for a first cycle??? 500 is a reasonable amount that will get u great gains with the same sides as 250. HOnestly what did all u guys run as ur first cycle?? i know a lot of people did more than 250
You just said that 500mg ew test was not a good cycle,and who ever says to do that is giving out bad advice. Why are you giving out bad advice now. Not just 500 ew now you are saying to use even more. You better start explaining dumb ass I am going to be all over you. I could just band your ass but I find it more fun making you look like a dumb ass.hehateme000 said:^^^^^yea get ur diet on track...that will help a lot. you can get to 185 then do a cycle. but for a first cycle if ur tryin to bulk just do 500mg testosterone enanthate EW for 10 weeks and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - weeks 1 - 4 to kick start it
Your right on both counts he is and there is .chris69 said:Xrsist i swear you are one of the Coolest BRO's on this board..you speak the truth, your not Recklace, and you give good sound advice that you have personal Knowlage of ! I dont understand what is happening to this board over the last month...It's like sombody gave EF access to a bunch of Hormone raging TEENAGERS ! (HEY what does this pill do...Let me try one )
NDT- Ask this Kid to kindly read and research & not reply ! I cant take reading anymore of his post..this is all Stupid !needtogetaas said:You just said that 500mg ew test was not a good cycle,and who ever says to do that is giving out bad advice. Why are you giving out bad advice now. Not just 500 ew now you are saying to use even more. You better start explaining dumb ass I am going to be all over you. I could just band your ass but I find it more fun making you look like a dumb ass.![]()
needtogetaas said:You just said that 500mg ew test was not a good cycle,and who ever says to do that is giving out bad advice. Why are you giving out bad advice now. Not just 500 ew now you are saying to use even more. You better start explaining dumb ass I am going to be all over you. I could just band your ass but I find it more fun making you look like a dumb ass.![]()
hehateme000 said:LET ME EXPLAIN needto i said 500mg EW and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cuz he said he already tried Dianabol - methandrostenolone - then i thuoght wait stick to one compund at a time first. so i said just 500mg and then people said u dont need that much and i said its fine and ull make better gains. i said it was a bad cycle for syringe because people said that 500mg EW for this guy was too much and its FIRST CYCLE for both of them. So after reading what people said on this thread i replied on syringes thread and saw that it was his first cycle and he wanted to do 500mg EW!!!!!! so i wanted to let him know that thats not neccessary and that 250 is sufficient. I said it was bad advice because they told me it was bad advice. I dont see how different circumstances change for syringe because u guys PM'd.....the only thing i can think of is that he wants to go into bodybuiding,but stil why would that allow for him to do 500 and not 250? shouldnt he see how he reacts to it no matter what????
hehateme000 said:alright now i understand....can someone plz tell me why needto says 250mg is a HRT does and xrcist and others say 100mg is a HRT dose? im confused about that
This is what you should do. Learn some more, Stick around, Make some friends Read a few books,Take a few cycles. Then start giving out advice and telling others there advice is no good.hehateme000 said:ive seen way more stupid questions on here than the one i just asked. why would i get banned i want to know who is right! because they are both very well educated in steroids
needtogetaas said:This is what you should do. Learn some more, Stick around, Make some friends Read a few books,Take a few cycles. Then start giving out advice and telling others there advice is no good.
You seem like I good guy. You seem like you want to help out and get involved with the board. Thats great but take it easy, take your time. If you are going to flip flop people are going to call you on it. Hell if you come out of no where giving advice people are going to call you on it. If you felt strongly about the advice you were giving you would not have changed it so fast.
I am sorry I came at you so hard. Most every one on this site knows I am not like that 95% of the time. We all have bad days. You just happen to be pissing me off on a bad day.
I am glad you and I got a chance to talk in pm's. I understand you more now.
Stick around bro get involved with the board go plat even. Just learn some more and be ready to back up what ever you say If your going to call people on what they say.![]()
Welcome to the group bro. I think I speak for all of us when I say. We want you here. We want you to stay on the board and gain some knowledge. We are happy in your chose as well. Stick around.hehateme000 said:yea sorry for all this...and to everyone my bad i was jus tryin to give advice but ill get a couple cycles under my belt and ill read some more books and just gain as much knowledge as i can first.....
^^^agreeneedtogetaas said:Welcome to the group bro. I think I speak for all of us when I say. We want you here. We want you to stay on the board and gain some knowledge. We are happy in your chose as well. Stick around.
needtogetaas said:Welcome to the group bro. I think I speak for all of us when I say. We want you here. We want you to stay on the board and gain some knowledge. We are happy in your chose as well. Stick around.
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needtogetaas said:Welcome to the group bro. I think I speak for all of us when I say. We want you here. We want you to stay on the board and gain some knowledge. We are happy in your chose as well. Stick around.

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