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first time starting gear with high bodyfat %

25% bodyfat and your goal is mass? You need a cutting cycle bro what good is being big if people look at you like a fat mess?
 
peejae said:
..actually 25% is actually my BMI...


Oh, then that changes everything...

I had no idea how you could be so high BF with the diet you posted. So odds are youre far leaner than I interpretted. :jenscat
 
ill put in 2cents here. i started aas this year and have ran two cycles, looking to bulk on each but burn bf also. that was my intentions, nomatter how anyone says the shit worked, that was my goals.

so, i ate clean, ate alot of fucking protein ed, trained like a maniac, and after two short cycles, one being test e and anavar and other being test prop. i weigh the same but my total body composition has changed from moderatly overweight with nothing to show for muscle despite 2.5 years of lifting, to an athletic strong looking body.

started at 235 pounds, i weigh 235 pounds now after pct of second cycle and have much more muscle, so that tells me i burned alotta fucking fat. did cardio too.

just my two cents, the thing with adding muscle and muscle mass burns more fat is true imo. which is why i will continue.

i've also dropped 2 pants sizes, or rather from 40 to 36. and maintaining. aas helps in this department in the long run. even eating big as long as it's all healthy food.
 
peejae said:
I was just wondering what you guys think if starting out on gear with high body fat % is a good idea or not im currently 25%. Ive been lifting for over 5 yrs now but never used gear want to do it for the first time. im happy with the way i look but want to get bigger and stronger i dont really care about definition and all that. im that big athletic guy you always see i wrestled in heavyweight divisions and a football lineman. I always lift heavy and eat lots. I never really weigh myself lol because everything i do doesnt revolve around a scale only when i go to the doc or something.my first cycle i wanna do sust and d-bol. ive had my blood work done and a physical im all good to go doc says im healthy.so anyway enough rambling just wondering if you have ever heard of this or recommend it? I really need some input because i cant find anyone who has done this plus everyone i see is in the teens with bodyfat or single digits. much info would be appreciated.

drop bf to 12-13%, then you could consider a test cycle. not worth putting added stress to your body especially the heart. burn that blubber off first, you will feel better
 
peejae said:
I was just wondering what you guys think if starting out on gear with high body fat % is a good idea or not im currently 25%. Ive been lifting for over 5 yrs now but never used gear want to do it for the first time. im happy with the way i look but want to get bigger and stronger i dont really care about definition and all that. im that big athletic guy you always see i wrestled in heavyweight divisions and a football lineman. I always lift heavy and eat lots. I never really weigh myself lol because everything i do doesnt revolve around a scale only when i go to the doc or something.my first cycle i wanna do sust and d-bol. ive had my blood work done and a physical im all good to go doc says im healthy.so anyway enough rambling just wondering if you have ever heard of this or recommend it? I really need some input because i cant find anyone who has done this plus everyone i see is in the teens with bodyfat or single digits. much info would be appreciated.

Not sure what your BF is exactly but as others have said: as long as your healthy enough and your body can handle it (Blood pressure, liver etc.) Why not? I'm an older guy 39 who finds it harder to drop stubborn BF than I used to, I actually found that test and a relatively clean diet helped me either convert stubborn BF to muscle or the extra muscle mass I gained helped me burn the excess body fat. Maybe both, I'm not sure but I made significant progress. To get to where I want, in the end, it still comes down to diet and cardio for me. Work in progress.
 
Glad you asked the question. I'm in he same boat, deciding to bulk on a test only cycle(when i find some) while its still cold outside and then alter the diet and get lean by summer.
 
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