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first time cycle ?

8and20 said:
Absolutely not! No decca only!

Try one compound only such as test/e or test/c or test/p to see how you react. Then maybe the second cycle you can add the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . .

yep. what he said. test only.....and as the other bros said--then only after diet and workout is correct.
 
Selfcentor said:
Trust me when i say your not ready for Steroids. I am 5 7 and i weigh in at about 175 with bf under 13% easily. You need to work out hard in the gym consistantly, eat a diet that can help you lose weight and make gains in the gym, sleep and my best advicce would be to try some DERMACRINE or some products that Nelson Montana promotes on here. Those could give you the boost you need and help you get ready for roids. I wouldent get on them till you were over 200 and had a bf of 14 ish percent. But try One of those products before Roids
yea you should learn about training and diet first. once you get that down run some dermacrine and see how that does you. before using gear bro you need to exhaust ALL other methods to build muscle, or the gear will just hinder your eventual overall progress.
that being said, if you still insist on using steroids which you probably will cuz you think they are magic. just use test enan or cyp at 250 or 300mg a week for 10 weeks.
 
Re: thank you

deejay1543 said:
hey guys thanx alot for the help,i guess i have a long way to go before considering steroids.thanks alot

no problem. we were all there once. just dont rush.
 
8and20 said:
no offense bro but 176 is kinda light for 6'4" and what makes it a little worse is the high bf so u r even leaner than that. u need to bump that up to 6 or 7 meals.

what are these 4-5 meals exactly?

Meal 1: =...
Meal 2: =....
etc. (serving sizes please)

i have a feeling your diet isnt in check and even with anabolic androgenic steroids you could still continue to see little to no gains.

agreed, this info would still be of use for us to help you
 
deejay1543 said:
hey guys,,,how are you all doin ? ive been working out on and off for a few years but i have not made any progress.So ive decided to take steroids and see if i can change that.The guys at the gym say that i should take Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin,alone , as it is the safest for first timers.Some say stack it with dianabol !!!! What should i take for the first time and what kinda cycle ? Is 8 weeks good enough ? what should i do after the cycle is over ?
lol nooooo way bro... no decca alone unless u wanna have then sexual fuctions of a 90 year old man.. like they said try a longer actin test ester .. such as test e or test cyp imo .. even sust is good to go
 
Varga said:
Bro, fix your diet first like percentage of protein/carbs/fat then just eat, eat, eat!
You need to eat at least 3000cal/day minimum preferably 3500-4000 for you to gain.

As a sugestion, I would drop your body fat to 14 or lower then bulk up again.
No offence, but you have a lot to learn and steroids should be the last thing on your mind
Any advice on how to eat that much? I have a fast metabolism and even though I can eat what I want I find it hard to eat that much otherwise im bloated all day long..
 
lightemup82 said:
Any advice on how to eat that much? I have a fast metabolism and even though I can eat what I want I find it hard to eat that much otherwise im bloated all day long..


wanna trade metabolism bro--i see a commercial for cupcakes and buttons start to pop.

consider a good weight gainer shake--just break-up the portions b/c some are just sick amount of calories. A bro i know in your situation mixes his weight gainer with low cal protein isolate shake and drinks all day long.--get put a solid 25 lbs on in a year with 2 light 10 weeks cycles of stst at 250/week.
 
lightemup82 said:
Any advice on how to eat that much? I have a fast metabolism and even though I can eat what I want I find it hard to eat that much otherwise im bloated all day long..

i notice big doses of complex carbs will do that to me.

what's your diet now. it would be better to tailor what you are eating now then to do this from scratch. plus we may notice some obvious difference makers.

i could think of many ways to get that food in ya and minimize the bloated feeling a little. hey but some are such hard gainers that they will just have to eat until they explode. they get used to it.
 
take shots of extra virgin olive oil.

i take 2 tbsp 2x a day adds an extra 500 cals.

i understand what you're going through man i've been there, it's fuckin tough to eat when you are a skinny bitch! but if you find ways to stuff it down, over time you'll get used to it, big problem for me was nausea while eating along with bloating and alternating runs/constipation. after i said fuck it i'll deal with those things anyways after about 3-4 weeks eating 3500 cals a day eventually my body adapted and started to expect the food and i could eat like that normally, shit i'd even wake up in the morning starving.

i worked out for 6 months with excellent training plenty/sleep rest. high protein everything. turns out i lost 10 pounds in the process although i did add some muscle it wasn't much.

if you drink milk drink whole milk, take shots of olive oil. put butter/margarine/mayonnaise on everything.

go to www.fitday.com and put EVERYTHING you eat in ther0 (don't forget to count for stuff like putting butter on your toast/mayo on a sandwich), turnsr out you may think you are eating more than you are, 3000+ cals is a LOT more food than you think it is. the fitday deal is a pain in the ass at first but you only need to do it for about two weeks then you'll kind of be able to kind of eat intuitively.

trust me man, you are blessed with your ecto metabolism, you can eat all day long, stay lean and get just as big as you'd ever want to be.

seriously man, it requires persistence but it's the truth. expect gains of about 0.5 pound a week.

i'm gonna make a guide for ecto's.
 
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