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baco86

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Sup guys,

Here are my stats:

25
172lbs
5'10"
Pretty lean - I'd say 10-12% body fat.

Been lifting for 2.5 years total, of that a little over a year very serious / good diet / proper form / technique.

I have been thinking to start a cycle.

My current first goal would be to be around 180-185lbs, at low single digit body fat. I Dont want to get too big, going more for the beach/underwear model loook.

The ideal physique I'd want to achieve would be something like Gregg Plitt, Lazar Angelov.

Very active in the gym, go about 5-6x a week. Stopped doing cardio recently because I felt like its eating my muscles...so I just walk for 5-10 minutes. Diet is on point, didnt have trouble with that... High protein, moderate carbs, low fat/sugars.

Only supplements I take is protein casein, multi, oils, some creatine, and pre workout juice.

At the moment I would like a basic cycel that would offer good gains, if possible would prefer if it could be oral only...but Im open to your advice..

here is my picture

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg15/scaled.php?server=15&filename=img0824kt.jpg&res=landing
 
You are not ready to take steroids. You are too small. Also you should research much more... You dont have any idea what you want to take?? We are here to critic not spoon-feed

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My ideal goal is to put another 10 lbs, and lower my bodyfat to be really ripped, have more vascularity in my body, get rid completely of all gut thats left over. From my research I was looking at an Anavar cycle, and for the getting ripped part Clen.. Im not asking to be spoon fed, just looking for pointers in the right direction
 
hmmmm.. the pic you posted i find it hard to believe you are just 172 pounds.. you got some good size on you.

also you are probably closer to 9% body fat.

i would cut off the cardio for a bit and your weight will jump.. that will give you the goal you want. see what happens.

then you can look into maybe a beastdrol or dbol/proviron cycle for 4 weeks

you don't need to mess with clen, trust me.. the sides are not worth it.
 
Thanks Steve,

I have stopped with the cardio for about 2 weeks now, I noticed my strenght increased. I know alot of people are suprised when I tell them, but after I piss, empty stomach I weight 170-172. I would be really happy with 10-15 more lbs of solid dry mass, and hit the 4-5% body fat target.
 
^^^ well without seeing a pic i would of said you were skinny as hell. you probably just have a small skeleton.. cause i weight about 20 pounds more than you at just 5 6 and you don't look that far off muscular wise

i would run a dbol/proviron cycle.

20-30mg dbol and 50mg proviron a day.

4 weeks

unleashed and post cycle PCT. once you gain some weight first though.. i will bet my left nut the reason you don't weigh much is your legs are probably skinny. so work on your legs for a little while, get them conditioned..
 
^^^^ bump this

I'm bairly 5'9" and I weigh 180 with 11-12%BF.

Gear is not the answer, train hard and eat my dude.
 
My legs are actually thick and pretty strong. My calves are thicker then some guys that work out longer than me....275x6 squat, 600x8 leg press... for my frame i think that legit/ I do train hard, I eat good to stay lean, and I am one of the few people that consistently come ot the gym 5-6x a week no matter what. Im not saying its the answer, but I have been trying to hit 4-% bodyfat and its not happening , and I dont want to turn into a hulk either.


@ Steve, is that an injectory cycle or oral ?
 
Bro you need to do more research if you don't know what gear is an injectable or oral. Especially not knowing that dbol is an oral.

Not trying to insult you eithor.
 
IS there a disctionary to what the acronyms mean ? like what is "Test" specicially.. Are we talking about testosterone booster ? I see alot of Testosteron + Name , so I dont know what exactly people are talkin about.

Its all good man, thats why I come to a forum where people know this stuff, because nobody in the gym that i go to talks about it ... or is willing ot share their info.
 
baco86 said:
IS there a disctionary to what the acronyms mean ? like what is "Test" specicially.. Are we talking about testosterone booster ? I see alot of Testosteron + Name , so I dont know what exactly people are talkin about.

Its all good man, thats why I come to a forum where people know this stuff, because nobody in the gym that i go to talks about it ... or is willing ot share their info.
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Wow, i dont mean to sound like a dick, but if you have no idea what test is, then u have no business running any compounds right now. You need to do A LOT more research before touching anything. And just for your information, every steroid is a derivitive of test in some way
 
Lol why are you guys so full of rage ? Yeah I dont, thats why I came here - its part of my research, I'm not going to just go out and buy and take random shit I dont even know. Instead of writing whatI need to od, you coulve said in 1 sentence what it was, I see alot of random TEST somethin and I dont know which ppl are specifically referring to. WHats wrong with that? We all start somewhere,
 
^^^

I agree man, if you don't know what test is you have no right to do any cycle man.

you don't need a dictionary, you are at the best dictionary you can get. Elitefitness.com

You need to use the search button, read profiles of different steroids, read what cycles people have run and what results they got and what not.

You have a lot of work still to do my friend.
 
Lol you guys need to realize I am not planning on taking it anytime soon - starting the thread was part of the research, and based on the answers I was thinking of getting I would focus in more on those specific subjects. Thanks anyway
 
Hey bro, welcome to EF!

There are a lot of stickies and profiles you should read up on, and they will answer a lot of your questions. You have come to the right place, there are a lot of good bros here who are willing to help you achieve your goals if you are willing to work hard and stay open minded and ready to learn.

For the next few months, make yourself a sponge and just soak up info, ask questions, and read cycle logs.

The answers will come, and when you're ready to go, we can help you tweak your cycle and ancilleries.

Read up on PCT also, it is very important.

Any questions, don't be afraid to ask! We all were clueless at one point bro!


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Nobody is here full of rage and a steroid forum probably not the best choice of words when you are trying to get these guys to help you out man.

I just joined the board not too long ago but unlike you I've done my research, I've searched this forum for probably 3 months of so prior to making a single post, not to mention the searches I've done here 5 years ago as a member. I've forgoten more than you even know, hence why I wanted to re-educate myself before I make myself seem like an ass or a noobie.

Once again nobody is trying to insult you or make fun of you. But dude you don't know that dbol is an oral and you don't know what test is. Those are probably the two most common steroids that there are.

Do some research and searches and when you think you know enough go back and do some more!

Then when you post you will probably have someone here help you out and don't be a smartass by saying someone is raging on you. You will get nowhere fast with that attitude.

Good luck and happy searching.
 
Damn guys we need to help this guy. Why is everyone on a beat people up over lack of knowledge kick lately. First off bro i think you look pretty damn good. You obviously know how to diet and get lean. The test people are referring to is an injectable testosterone. However i think your goals a definitely reachable through diet and training. Upping your clean cals and training hard. I know it doesn't seem like it but in these guys own way they are trying to help man. Remember this is a steroid board bro and alot of us are fully juiced. Lmao please keep asking questions on this site bro. There are alot of good guys here with alot of knowledge.

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Thanks alot guys, really appreciate the value educated replies you have provided. I will continue my research, and I wont touch anything until I am comfortable and have a good fundamental base.
 
Hey b86 you have had a lot of good info on here. I agree some of it has been very un-sugar coated and I myself have been guilty of this. But you also have to remember that a lot of the bros on here see this kind of post time after time and they just simply get tired of seeing new guys looking for a magic bullet. Now clearly that is not where your at, and reading the full thread shows that very well.

Also you need to know that all of these substances are very power full and can lead to nasty side effects, such as your dick not working at all, very painful and itchy nipps, sever lack of sleep etc. That right there is why its so important that you do the research that you have began right here.

The very vest advice that I can give you and every other new person is to Keep On Reading On Here Everything You Can! This place is t gold mine of dam good info and insight about this business.

Ok nuff on that.

Plz post up your exact workout plan. I can tell you right now that if you wanna gain some more lean mass then you need to change things around for at least awhile. Meaning that you need to slow down so that your bod can gain that muscle that you want. You dont have any surplus fat to speak of so this goes double for you.
Also, dude, do you have any idea what it means to be at 4-6% bf? That is a hugely lofty goal bro. In fact dam near impossible for any length of time. That degree of leanness is right is the Stage range for pro bbers.
Also post up exactly what your macros are right now. I would venture a guess that your low on the protein, but thats only a guess.

Ok ball in your court from here bro. Looking forward to seeing more posting from you.
You looking dam good right now sir, BTW.
And last of all for your goals you really done need the "supplements" particularly if you dont wan ttoo much more mass.
 
I fully agree with OWL. We always need to remember to make every new member feel welcome.
 
I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm not trying to be a dick to him, I'm a newb just like him. :supercool

I'm just suggesting doing some more research thats all.

Everyones welcome to this board!
 
To the above poster, Obsessed, when you say - The test people are referring to is an injectable testosterone. But, I see alot of test injectibles, , for example I see Test-Propionate, Test- Cypionate, Test-Enanthanate, Nandro Test .... which is what confused the crap out of me.. but once again, im still a n00b.
 
Guys, my main goal is to be something like Greg Plitt - I am looking for about 10-15 lbsof more muscle, particularly to get my chest out because its lagging the most out of my entire body.
my Diet is high in protein, moderate carbs ( cycle every 4 days from high to low), and low fat/sugars. Maybe 1 cheat meal, Id say my daily intake right now is about 2,200 calories.

I am not trying to get Huge, and become a hulk. Im looking for an aesthetic figure something along the lines of " Zyzz" or Josef Rakich ..

And lastly, I do have some surplus fat, I know u cant see it, but when I sit down I can still grab some of my lower abdominal fat, and sides... maybe im just obsessed. bbut I am aiming for that "shredded" veins everywhere look....

Thanks to everyone that has contributed so far..
 
Baco86 , I was new too the forum back in February , asking questions the same as you. There is alot of knowledge on this forum , for the last 2 months I have spent everyday an when I say everyday , I mean I read stickies an threads for about two hrs a day , just trying to learn. There is alot of knowledge here between the stickies , threads an members.


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Check out this site bro drugsprofiles.com this will gibe you the definition of every steroid out there. I had this huge answer typed up and my fucking phone died. Lmao seriously ck it out all your answers are there. If you still need more info let me know. Also pm me bro and i will personally work w you to get you shredded and veiny bro.

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Honestly bro, looking at your goals and what you already look like, check out SARMs. Look up a product called ostarine and another called S4.

There are a few logs here already, you may prefer these.

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yes bro, you definitely need to gain more knowledge... you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and are willing to listen and learn and thats what its all about... i see a lot of guys who have not done any homework and the things they ask are just ridiculous... its just frustrating at times but i can see that you have a decent concept of things... some of the things you are asking you should have a general concept of before asking and you need to do more reading but i give you credit for asking and not getting discouraged when people gave you shit... that earned you respect...

i do have to tell you that 4-6% is not easy... I had to give up EVERYTHING to get to 6% and when I say everything, i mean everything... 4% is damn near death... so i would just forget about that one.. there are plenty of options out there for you though and I will always be here to help you and so will a lot of others...

personally, and this is just my opinion, i think its always better to start with a ph first before going with an injectible... we are lucky enough in this day and age to have that option whereas a lot of generations before us did not... this is just my thought but I think its a better option...

Either way, i can always help you to get something set up... good luck, study up and we will get you going on the right track
 
dylangemelli said:
yes bro, you definitely need to gain more knowledge... you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and are willing to listen and learn and thats what its all about... i see a lot of guys who have not done any homework and the things they ask are just ridiculous... its just frustrating at times but i can see that you have a decent concept of things... some of the things you are asking you should have a general concept of before asking and you need to do more reading but i give you credit for asking and not getting discouraged when people gave you shit... that earned you respect...

i do have to tell you that 4-6% is not easy... I had to give up EVERYTHING to get to 6% and when I say everything, i mean everything... 4% is damn near death... so i would just forget about that one.. there are plenty of options out there for you though and I will always be here to help you and so will a lot of others...

personally, and this is just my opinion, i think its always better to start with a ph first before going with an injectible... we are lucky enough in this day and age to have that option whereas a lot of generations before us did not... this is just my thought but I think its a better option...

Either way, i can always help you to get something set up... good luck, study up and we will get you going on the right track
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I thought i was gonna croak getting to 8% :)

Gotta keep on keeping on it's a marathon not a sprint!
 
baco86 said:
To the above poster, Obsessed, when you say - The test people are referring to is an injectable testosterone. But, I see alot of test injectibles, , for example I see Test-Propionate, Test- Cypionate, Test-Enanthanate, Nandro Test .... which is what confused the crap out of me.. but once again, im still a n00b.
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The only difference between prop, enanthate, cypionate, and sustanon is how long th esters of each take to clear your body. The longer an ester takes to clear your body, the longer it takes to get your hormones back to normal
 
What is your guys' opinion on trying a prohormone route first , such as Epistane or Boladrol - before an actual real juice cycle ?
 
PH is not a bad route, it's all about preference bro.

Make sure to read up on liver support if you choose an oral.

Beastdrol is the SHIT!

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I guess since I am new to the game, Oral seems to be novice friendly, of course I will take precaution. One thing I dont want to do is waste time, or money. Like I said, looking for a target body weight of 185 @ 6% bf. and go from there. Also want the veins to show on my abs, chest, arms, legs...
 
Well bro, getting to 6% is damn hard work, but can definitely be done. Anavar is also another great compound that a lot of bros like.

SARMS are a lot safer than AAS and can help you get where you are wanting. Check out a few bros logs on them!

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baco86 said:
IS there a disctionary to what the acronyms mean ? like what is "Test" specicially.. Are we talking about testosterone booster ? I see alot of Testosteron + Name , so I dont know what exactly people are talkin about.

Its all good man, thats why I come to a forum where people know this stuff, because nobody in the gym that i go to talks about it ... or is willing ot share their info.
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For acronyms? Lol. Oh, boy. Check it out main go to drugprofiles.com read up. Then look up half life on aas. Study for 3 three years. Then think about aas imo. Get your diet on and train no reason why you cant stand 200 natty
 
I'm curious to know how to people "shred" or get "ripped" to vein popping 5-6% everywhere. Because I have been trying to cut since September, and obviously I am still not there. Only thing I have been doing is dieting/eating very clean, so obviously I am doing something wrong, which makes me believe its the extra supplement that I am not taking that gets people so rippped where they have veins on their chest and abs..
 
baco86 said:
I'm curious to know how to people "shred" or get "ripped" to vein popping 5-6% everywhere. Because I have been trying to cut since September, and obviously I am still not there. Only thing I have been doing is dieting/eating very clean, so obviously I am doing something wrong, which makes me believe its the extra supplement that I am not taking that gets people so rippped where they have veins on their chest and abs..
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my friend, to get to 5-6%, takes a lot more than a pill and "eating clean" For me to get to this level I have given up everything man... I don't drink anymore, I don't do any drugs anymore, I don't party anymore, I NEVER cheat on my eating and when i tell you that i work out hard, you have to grasp the concept when I say I workout hard... go look at my log and see what i do DAILY to maintain this... To even get there is fucking hard, but to maintain it, is 24/7 dedication... yes, aas has helped me take it to the next level but trust me when i tell you, to get there and stay there is a never ending job... its total maintenance... so if you think your willing to do that then it is obtainable, but i have a feeling your diet and training are nowhere near that level... go read my log and look at just a typical workout i do... what you keep bringing up about wanting, i don't think you grasp the concept of how hard it is to get there...
 
Here are my stats:

21
227lbs
6'4
13% body fat.

Been lifting for 5 years total, the past 2 years with 2 cycles of pro hormones(oral steroids)

I have been thinking to start my first injection (real) cycle. test cyp

I'm dedicated to working out 6 days a week and a solid diet 7 days a week.
My question is should I push it to the next level or keep my stats where they are. 345max bench 550max squat 305squat

Only supplements I take now is multis, preworkout, and protein 4 times a day

Im open to your advice..
 
Hey guys ive been on this website a lot this past week for advice.
im 22 5'11 and about 160 pounds about 8-9% body fat im looking to bulk up possibly add additional 10-15 pounds. I wanted to know what would be the best and "safest" oral to take? how much,when, etc etc. My calories will of course be very high and ill put in work at the gym. So can anyone please just give me some advice on what to take? greatly appreciated.
 
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