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Well while you're getting back into the grove and becoming dedicated again, you can read up on all of the compounds and how to properly do cycles and such.

For first cycles, the generic run would be 10-12 weeks of test, but you're going to need to read up on PCT and Aromatose inhibitors.

Test Enanthate for 12 weeks at around 500mgs a week
AI such as forma stanozol on hand in case sides pop up

Pct with the unleashed/post cycle combo and forma

Look up HCGenerate also, it's great to have on hand and to run into pct
 
welcome to elite... your definitely in the right place man and there's a lot of great guys on here that know their shit that will be glad to help... me included... but I urge you to at least wait another 90-120 days to really get a strong routine and diet down before you consider running a cycle... you need to keep it up for that long so that you know your ready... consistency is so important when it comes to living this lifestyle... you can be a lot of things, but being consistent is going to be the most important... you also need to set yourself some goals and research different compounds to see what would fit your needs more... it will also help us to provide you with the direction that you are going to need to be safe and successful...
 
Well while you're getting back into the grove and becoming dedicated again, you can read up on all of the compounds and how to properly do cycles and such.

For first cycles, the generic run would be 10-12 weeks of test, but you're going to need to read up on PCT and Aromatose inhibitors.

Test Enanthate for 12 weeks at around 500mgs a week
AI such as forma stanozol on hand in case sides pop up

Pct with the unleashed/post cycle combo and forma

Look up HCGenerate also, it's great to have on hand and to run into pct

thanks bro. this is exactly why im here. i would have thought (from previous miss education)
that my first cycle should be a shorty. so i was not shutting myself down for to long. but i have seen a lot of folks recommending longer first cycle periods for the first time newb.
my fear as of lately has been after the cycle ends getting my body back to producing "normal levels of natural test. i do understand thats what the pct is for. but there are so many options out there. that its more frustrating than overwhelming. im kinda hoping when the time comes i could ask for suggestions.
would the gear i have on hand be worth holding on to? or should it just be disposed of?
i dont see any point of keeping this stuff laying around if it is trash. if im not going to use it it becomes more of a liability than anything els.
 
welcome to elite... your definitely in the right place man and there's a lot of great guys on here that know their shit that will be glad to help... me included... but I urge you to at least wait another 90-120 days to really get a strong routine and diet down before you consider running a cycle... you need to keep it up for that long so that you know your ready... consistency is so important when it comes to living this lifestyle... you can be a lot of things, but being consistent is going to be the most important... you also need to set yourself some goals and research different compounds to see what would fit your needs more... it will also help us to provide you with the direction that you are going to need to be safe and successful...


wow. 90 to 120 days? that seems like probably sooner than i would have thought. so i guess i will have to see how it goes between now and then. ive been back in the weights for more than half a year now and told myself i would wouldnt get a cycle started until i hit at least my 1 year back date. but if i feel confident about doing it right and being prepared before then. well thats that.... :)
i certainly do need to work on diet. i have been watching my cals. but need to start being more on top of my carbs and fats. i understand diet plays a huge part in the results im going to get out. right now i feel like my diet is whats holding me back. so thats what im working on.
thanks for all the support im getting here everyone...
 
just some quick points

1 nothing wrong w/ a short cycle of test to get your feet wet.. 6 weeks is plenty to make some real gains

2 nothing wrong w/ a 4 week oral cycle of helladrol/beastdrol/etc/etc look at what mrsupps.com has and research it.

3 its nice to see someone who knows they need some work and is willing to put off a cycle until they get things dialed in!
 
first off what are your stats? you may have posted them already but without stats hard to give you guidance..

go read drug profiles.com and do more research on ideas.

a first cycle should be short and leaving you wanting more. don't go and run a 20 week cycle the first time.. keep it short, i don't care if you run long esters, doesn't matter.. just keep it short.

pick 1 compound and run it and run a simple pct. then next time around try 2 compounds.. and so on. you don't need to stack 4 different things when you don't know enough about them

and as others have said before anything else obviously you need to get into better shape. you won't be happy with your results from steroids without a strong routine and discipline.
 
first off what are your stats? you may have posted them already but without stats hard to give you guidance..

go read drug profiles.com and do more research on ideas.

a first cycle should be short and leaving you wanting more. don't go and run a 20 week cycle the first time.. keep it short, i don't care if you run long esters, doesn't matter.. just keep it short.

pick 1 compound and run it and run a simple pct. then next time around try 2 compounds.. and so on. you don't need to stack 4 different things when you don't know enough about them

and as others have said before anything else obviously you need to get into better shape. you won't be happy with your results from steroids without a strong routine and discipline.

i totally agree... i would not run a long first cycle... 6 weeks would be plenty for a first cycle and a good ph would be fine... you CAN run something like a test only cycle, 10-12 weeks but a shorter cycle will get you some nice gains in a short amount of time, allowing you a quicker recovery time and then giving you the opportunity to run another cycle sooner...

i say 90-120 days at least because you've been back at it for a while now... if you were just getting started i would say 6 months to a year preferably... YOU will know when your truly ready... if you are questioning it in any way then you are not ready...
 
first off what are your stats? you may have posted them already but without stats hard to give you guidance..

go read drug profiles.com and do more research on ideas.

a first cycle should be short and leaving you wanting more. don't go and run a 20 week cycle the first time.. keep it short, i don't care if you run long esters, doesn't matter.. just keep it short.

pick 1 compound and run it and run a simple pct. then next time around try 2 compounds.. and so on. you don't need to stack 4 different things when you don't know enough about them

and as others have said before anything else obviously you need to get into better shape. you won't be happy with your results from steroids without a strong routine and discipline.

35 yrs old
205 lbs
20% body fat
eating between 2500 and 3000 cpd (been going kinda heavy on protein lately) but fatty snacking is my killer)
weight training 3 days a week using "all pro beginners program"
hitt cardio 3days a week
i may have to swap out my current routine when the time comes for a decent split (upper / lower) when my day comes but for what i im doing and what i am not doing right now = this is working.
my bench is 195 clean (pleas dont make fun :) actual 1 rep max- not calculated
and my squat is 215 also clean at 5 reps. ( i dont max this exercise as im totally new to squats)
 
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as fare as what i want to run latter down the road in a short cycle. i was hoping to find out what i should add or subtract from the gear i have presently.
as fare as i see here the nolvadex is off the table. maybe its all off the table. we haven't really talked much about what i have "sitting around" i do understand that
its not time to "pute together my gear" yet but i dont want to be sitting on crap that will never get used. as fare as what i still need. if it makes every one more comfortable to
not share this kinda stuff yet than thats fine but at least stere me towards what to dispose of and what to keep in the "kitty" so to speak.
at "stevesmi" drug profiles.com is a good read. i was amazed this kinda mind set was shared so openly.
at "dylangemelli" i was kinda stuck on the idea of a short cycle in the beginning. im still hanging in that mind set now. im glad a few of you agree its better to start short and work long.
i like to be able to track my reactions good and bad with each thing i do. so a test cycle onely does sound like its were i would be leaning down the road.
thanks again for all the great help guys. makes me glad i added this to my learning resources.
just the help in were to find information has me picking up info so much faster than just pecking at the keyboard and hoping to come across good solid info.
good stuff guys! thank you.
 
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