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First cycle oral only...

You're lifts will explode at day 10. 30 mgs dbol does wonders for me but some do use higher.

Good to hear! The weight is packing on nicely, but the strength hasn't shown up quite yet!
I am taking 25mgs for 8 days then bumping it up to 40mg for 8 days. If my body reacts well to the 40mg I will then take 50mg for 30 more days until my cycle is over, but that is if and only if my body reacts well and I see great results without too much bloating and water retention.
 
Today was day 7 of my cycle. I was dumb and went to bed at 5 am last night and slept until 2 today... I still managed to have an omelette before bed and when I went to pee around 10:30am I got up, took my dbol, proviron, and liver support, then drank about 12 ounces of water with around 7g of protein worth of peanuts, haha... Typical saturday, but I made up for it by working extremely hard in the gym today. Back/biceps/abs was today and my buddy and I cranked it... Afterwards it was tons of spaghetti and breadsticks! Man I love bulking!!
I was down a little in weight today, but I know that is only due to not having any food or water in me, so I am not worried too much about it.
Tonight is my final dosage of 25mg and tomorrow I start 40mg! Woo!

On a different note I am really short on funds right now but I need a good product for pct that is very cost effective. I have been looking around on NTBM.com. Is the HCGenerate or the N2Guard worth the 70 or 60 bucks respectively? I already plan to take nolva for pct but I definitely want something to supplement that.
 
I recently got paid so I want a sick PCT.
What about post cycle and unleashed from NTBM.com? I also see where some people even stack that with HCGenerate? Is that really necessary? Thats a 110 dollar pct not counting the nolva!! Is the HCGenerate or the N2Guard worth the 70 or 60 bucks respectively? I already plan to take nolva for PCT but I definitely want something to supplement that.
Can I take HcGenerate stand alone with the nolva and be set?
I only have experience with PCTs coming off of a prohormone so I need some guidance!
 
an advil a day takes my blood pressure headaches away
 
I recently got paid so I want a sick PCT.
What about post cycle and unleashed from NTBM.com? I also see where some people even stack that with HCGenerate? Is that really necessary? Thats a 110 dollar pct not counting the nolva!! Is the HCGenerate or the N2Guard worth the 70 or 60 bucks respectively? I already plan to take nolva for PCT but I definitely want something to supplement that.
Can I take HcGenerate stand alone with the nolva and be set?
I only have experience with PCTs coming off of a prohormone so I need some guidance!

BUMP
Anyone?
 
6'2" and 183 = skinny...and your ultimate goal is to be 195 (still skinny)? 12 lbs? You want to gain 12 lbs? Fuckin A, you just need to eat (no, I mean REALLY eat), and most likely change your training too. God damn.
 
6'2" and 183 = skinny...and your ultimate goal is to be 195 (still skinny)? 12 lbs? You want to gain 12 lbs? Fuckin A, you just need to eat (no, I mean REALLY eat), and most likely change your training too. God damn.

I started last January at 140. I know I know but that's my body's natural set point. I have gained 40 pounds naturally and have not seen much gain in the last 3-4 months. I have a great diet as well. I genetically have
6% bodyfat. I take 3 weight gainer shakes with 900-1100 calories apiece on top of 4 meals per day to total 6 meals per day and between 5000 and 6000 calories per day. Even after that I can't put on any fat (thank god) but I'm 186 now with 6% body fat. That's allot of lean mass man compared to a 200 pounder with 11-12% body fat. My goal is 195-200 with 6% body fat. That's huge for me. I'm not trying to compete just be healthy and extremely fit looking...
 
I recently got paid so I want a sick PCT.
What about post cycle and unleashed from NTBM.com? I also see where some people even stack that with HCGenerate? Is that really necessary? Thats a 110 dollar pct not counting the nolva!! Is the HCGenerate or the N2Guard worth the 70 or 60 bucks respectively? I already plan to take nolva for PCT but I definitely want something to supplement that.
Can I take HcGenerate stand alone with the nolva and be set?
I only have experience with PCTs coming off of a prohormone so I need some guidance!

First if your really a hard gainer you need to up your calories even more add another 1000 find a way, get up earlier do whatever you got to do. N2Gaurd is great I run it on every cycle now 1 of my favorite supplements. Post Cycle + Unleashed combo is great I have run it before and I am running HCGenerate now. HCGenerate can be run alone but stack with Unleashed + Post Cycle and see even better results. But I would be running HCGenerate with Unleashed and Froma on cycle with Phytoserms, Forma and Post cycle included in your PCT. I am using Phytoserms now with HCGenerate and love it. Unfortunately both are out of stock, even at RLS phyto is out of stock lol. You can get Unleashed + Post cycle at Needto's site here use Gamer15 for 15% off if you don't use the 25% off for march code. Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo Also a way to substitute for HCGenerate is take Bridge at double doses, I am using it as well with HCGenerate but anyways it costs a little less when you buy 2 bottles because your running at double dose and works almost the same as HCGenerate, its on same site as unleashed post cycle combo here http://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Cycle-Support/Bridge--p56.html. Check this link out on Post Cycle + Unleashed can be used as a sub for Nolva or run both for better effect. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...anzol-unleashed-post-cycle-advice-740719.html Here is a link to Forma read on it you'll see how it will help you on cycle and during pct https://www.mrsupps.com/Products/18/Forma+Stanzol So really only things you can buy now are bridge, N2Gaurd, post cycle + unleashed and forma. everything else out of stock with that sweet deal going on. It may be expensive but HCGenerate and N2Gaurd and the others are worth the money a proper PCT will help you keep your gains it is not something you wanna take lightly. If it was cheap then everyone would do it.
 
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