First cycle oral only...

[Dogfox]

1-7 liv 52 2 a day
2-5 25mgs dbol
2-5 25mgs proviron
6-9 20/20/10/10 nolva

Go buy some cycle support too and take 2 scoops (1 morning and 1 evening) for weeks 1-9

Thats a side free safe first cycle. 50mgs is way overkill for dbol, dont use another oral with it. Dont use the anadrol. Just stick with the dbol and prov as laid out above and youll see results and recover.

 

[Tmedlin]

1-7 liv 52 2 a day
2-5 25mgs dbol
2-5 25mgs proviron
6-9 20/20/10/10 nolva

Go buy some cycle support too and take 2 scoops (1 morning and 1 evening) for weeks 1-9

Thats a side free safe first cycle. 50mgs is way overkill for dbol, dont use another oral with it. Dont use the anadrol. Just stick with the dbol and prov as laid out above and youll see results and recover.

At what times during the day should I take my dbol, proviron, and liv 52.
Cycle support? What will that do for me that liv 52 isn't already?
Is the product called cycle support or do you recommend a certain one?

At 25mgs a day I'll have 80 pills of dbol. You recommend me taking 28 days worth so I'll have 52 tablets left. Can I run dbol longer than just 4 weeks? Same applies to proviron. I have forty pills of that and you only have me using 28.
Should I start at lower than 25mg per day of dbol and taper up or just 25 straight through?

Since I will have so much dbol left over, could I trade my friend some of my dbol for some clomid and turnabol? Could I then use nolva and/or clomid after one month of dbol and then take turnabol for to 2-3 weeks to finish everything off while taking my nolva and/or clomid?

 

[Tmedlin]

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[Dogfox]

At what times during the day should I take my dbol, proviron, and liv 52.
Cycle support? What will that do for me that liv 52 isn't already?
Is the product called cycle support or do you recommend a certain one?

At 25mgs a day I'll have 80 pills of dbol. You recommend me taking 28 days worth so I'll have 52 tablets left. Can I run dbol longer than just 4 weeks? Same applies to proviron. I have forty pills of that and you only have me using 28.
Should I start at lower than 25mg per day of dbol and taper up or just 25 straight through?

Since I will have so much dbol left over, could I trade my friend some of my dbol for some clomid and turnabol? Could I then use nolva and/or clomid after one month of dbol and then take turnabol for to 2-3 weeks to finish everything off while taking my nolva and/or clomid?

Liv 52 is for your liver. BP, cholesterol, kidneys etc are taken care of by anabolic innovations cycle support. If you can afford it take a dose in the morning with breakfast, and a dose in the evening with dinner.

I am fully aware you have more dbol but to use more than suggested or for longer is not necessarily better. If you can get your hands on tbol in place of the dbol then that is a much better choice for an oral only first cycle. If you can get tbol run that at 30-40mgs for 5 weeks and you wont need the proviron.

No you should not use other steroids i your pct while taking nolva and clomid. They help you recover so dont interfere with that. As a rule of thumb you will be able to use steroids again 2 months after you finish your pct: time on plus time off equals time inbetween cycles. That is a general rule however for some it can be longer.

Oh and if you do run your dbol/proviron try and take them twice a day morning and evening. Get a pill cutter and split them up.
Liv 52 taken morning and evening two.

Again tbol > dbol for your type of cycle so if you can get that then use it instead.

 

[Tmedlin]

Liv 52 is for your liver. BP, cholesterol, kidneys etc are taken care of by anabolic innovations cycle support. If you can afford it take a dose in the morning with breakfast, and a dose in the evening with dinner.

I am fully aware you have more dbol but to use more than suggested or for longer is not necessarily better. If you can get your hands on tbol in place of the dbol then that is a much better choice for an oral only first cycle. If you can get tbol run that at 30-40mgs for 5 weeks and you wont need the proviron.

No you should not use other steroids i your pct while taking nolva and clomid. They help you recover so dont interfere with that. As a rule of thumb you will be able to use steroids again 2 months after you finish your pct: time on plus time off equals time inbetween cycles. That is a general rule however for some it can be longer.

Oh and if you do run your dbol/proviron try and take them twice a day morning and evening. Get a pill cutter and split them up.
Liv 52 taken morning and evening two.

Again tbol > dbol for your type of cycle so if you can get that then use it instead.

I am going to purchase cycle support. Will the post cycle support be a worth while purchase for PCT to run with my nolvadex?
What is wrong with running 4 weeks of dbol if I take all the necessary precautions and do everything perfectly? I have read that turnabol is a fairly mild oral steroid and when ran alone I won't see much results from it. This will likely be my first and last steroid cycle that I ever do. I am near where I want to be physically I just want to push my size up another 12 pounds or so after pct and all water weight is gone. My friend also doesn't want to give up his turnabol and has taken dbol and he says it is perfect for my situation.
I am 6'2 183lbs 6% body fat and I can bench around 265. My goal is ultimately 195 with 5-6% body fat and benching 315. I am absolutely a hardgainer and I look semi shredded all the time, which I like. My body fat goes up 1-2 percent when I bulk in the winter, but I really want to do one last bulk before summer. Will I be able to achieve these goals from this cycle?

How long should I run the dbol and proviron to see maximum gains for a one of cycle. Also will N2guard be necessary or will the cycle support take care of me on this cycle? Also would anyone recommend some sort of body cleanser or liver detoxer for pre or post cycle to flush out anything in there to prepare for my cycle or get rid of any crap in there for post cycle?
Will a natural test booster be necessary to go along with the nolvadex?

Thanks

 

[Dogfox]

you can use test booster if you want, i personally really like sustain alpha - lots of people here like HCGenerate. Goals are not that realistic, will depend on your diet and sleep. By now you should have planned the exact macronutrient breakdown of your diet - ie cals from fat, percentage of sat fats, cals from carbs, percentage of those carbs that are sugars, and amount of protein (2g per lb of BW will be needed for max gains) and also how much sleep you can get/what you can do to maximize the amount you get. So if you havent already start mapping out a diet plan and the times you will eat.
the liv 52 and cycle support will protect you well enough - you should probably look into getting fish oils and a good multi vit tho as well as eat alot of green veg - by doing this you can minimize the negative impact on your body that the steroids will have. If you havent fully achieved your results you could go an extra week on the cycle above, yes i am aware youll still have some dbol left over.

 

[Tmedlin]

you can use test booster if you want, i personally really like sustain alpha - lots of people here like HCGenerate. Goals are not that realistic, will depend on your diet and sleep. By now you should have planned the exact macronutrient breakdown of your diet - ie cals from fat, percentage of sat fats, cals from carbs, percentage of those carbs that are sugars, and amount of protein (2g per lb of BW will be needed for max gains) and also how much sleep you can get/what you can do to maximize the amount you get. So if you havent already start mapping out a diet plan and the times you will eat.
the liv 52 and cycle support will protect you well enough - you should probably look into getting fish oils and a good multi vit tho as well as eat alot of green veg - by doing this you can minimize the negative impact on your body that the steroids will have. If you havent fully achieved your results you could go an extra week on the cycle above, yes i am aware youll still have some dbol left over.

I ordered a tub of cycle support today. Thanks for the recommendation. I will look into sustain alpha and hcgenerate and make my decision by next week. My diet is planned. I am ready to roll. Two more weeks until I start my dbol. I will start my liv 52 march 10th and dbol the follow week.
I plan to run dbol starting at 25mgs and then work from there. Probably around 4-6 weeks depending on the dosage I end up with and how my body reacts. I am going to start running proviron at 25mgs for the first week then bump it up to 50mgs for the rest of the cycle because I have a short supple of it. Liv 52 will be ran throughout until the cycle finishes as will cycle support. I will start that when I start the dbol and run until I run out of the cycle support, which will be slightly after I finish my dbol. I will be taking ZMA in the evenings, C4 preworkout from Cellucor, 1 gallon+ of water per day, optimum nutrition serious mass protein (i'm a hardddd gainer), optimum nutrition multivitamin, and fish oil that has omega 3 in it.
How does this all sound to you guys? Thanks so much for the advice and helpful guidance thus far.

 

[Tmedlin]

I also forgot for four weeks I am going to run nolva 20-20-10-10.

 

[Tmedlin]

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[needtogetaas]

you refuse to stick yourself with anything then im sorry but i think your an idiot, if this is a one of cycle then by all means go for it, if your planing on a few cycles then you might aswell order a new liver while your at it, id get your tests done every few weeks, your missing out on the injects tho!!

keep the name calling to your self bro. We dont act like little kids around here. THANK YOU