First cycle oral only...

[Tmedlin]

First if your really a hard gainer you need to up your calories even more add another 1000 find a way, get up earlier do whatever you got to do. N2Gaurd is great I run it on every cycle now 1 of my favorite supplements. Post Cycle + Unleashed combo is great I have run it before and I am running HCGenerate now. HCGenerate can be run alone but stack with Unleashed + Post Cycle and see even better results. But I would be running HCGenerate with Unleashed and Froma on cycle with Phytoserms, Forma and Post cycle included in your PCT. I am using Phytoserms now with HCGenerate and love it. Unfortunately both are out of stock, even at RLS phyto is out of stock lol. You can get Unleashed + Post cycle at Needto's site here use Gamer15 for 15% off if you don't use the 25% off for march code. Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo Also a way to substitute for HCGenerate is take Bridge at double doses, I am using it as well with HCGenerate but anyways it costs a little less when you buy 2 bottles because your running at double dose and works almost the same as HCGenerate, its on same site as unleashed post cycle combo here Bridge. Check this link out on Post Cycle + Unleashed can be used as a sub for Nolva or run both for better effect. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...anzol-unleashed-post-cycle-advice-740719.html Here is a link to Forma read on it you'll see how it will help you on cycle and during pct https://www.mrsupps.com/Products/18/Forma+Stanzol So really only things you can buy now are bridge, N2Gaurd, post cycle + unleashed and forma. everything else out of stock with that sweet deal going on. It may be expensive but HCGenerate and N2Gaurd and the others are worth the money a proper PCT will help you keep your gains it is not something you wanna take lightly. If it was cheap then everyone would do it.

I am going to order today to get the march discount. Will I have a great PCT if I buy the unleashed + post cycle, use nolva, and what else to add with it?
I appreciate the detail of your post! Helps so much. How essential is the two bottles of bridge? I have roughly 30 days left of my cycle so I wanna go ahead and get this stuff in. (wish I could have purchased it all at the same time with my cycle stuff, but funds wouldn't allow :/)
Also could u recommend any dosaging and when to start the different things I am taking?
Thanks
I was planning on this for Nolva
April 28- May 26 4 weeks Nolvadex
April 28-May11th 20mg (14 pills)
May 12th -26th 10mg (16 days, 8 pills)
Total = 22 pills

 

[Lancer55]

I am going to order today to get the march discount. Will I have a great PCT if I buy the unleashed + post cycle, use nolva, and what else to add with it?
I appreciate the detail of your post! Helps so much. How essential is the two bottles of bridge? I have roughly 30 days left of my cycle so I wanna go ahead and get this stuff in. (wish I could have purchased it all at the same time with my cycle stuff, but funds wouldn't allow :/)
Also could u recommend any dosaging and when to start the different things I am taking?
Thanks
I was planning on this for Nolva
April 28- May 26 4 weeks Nolvadex
April 28-May11th 20mg (14 pills)
May 12th -26th 10mg (16 days, 8 pills)
Total = 22 pills

Your pct will be great if you use with nolva. The 2 bottles of bridge IMO would definately be worth it, it is great for pct it will help you keep your gains on cycle and keep making gains during pct. "Unleashed increases free testosterone without suppressing HPTA by lowering SHBG so even if you are suppressed after your cycle you can have higher testosterone levels than most normal guys. This is an amazing advantage when trying to recover" so that pretty much explains itself stacked with bridge which also increases free test. And as for post cycle, "It lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength – all things of a major concern in post cycle therapy" running dbol this will be a nice thing to use.

As for the forma it is a great supplement "It increases IGF-1 levels by an amazing 26%. It also increases HPTA activity and testicular activity similar to a combination of HCG and Clomid"

FORMA-STANZOL decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity, which basically makes androgens/steroids in your systems MORE effective WITHOUT any increase in dosage.

FORMA-STANZOL increases IGF-1 levels by a whopping 26%, doing so creates the perfect anabolic muscle building environment on cycle, off cycle and during pct.

So forma with unleashed will lower SHBG levels and it explains why thats good above then unleashed with bridge increases free test levels. with a low SHBG and more free test that will help you keep making gains in your pct. then forma with post cycle will help any estrogen problems. So they all compliment eachother and work well together I would be lying if I said I didn't think you should get them all. IF money is an issue and I could only get 1 of these I would get bridge. You have nolva to help with estrogen it just wouldn't work as well compared to running forma and post cycle on top of it. Then bridge does help increase free test levels but they would be even higher and more effective with forma lowering SHBG and unleashed which would make more free test and lower SHGB. As for dosages I would take two Unleashed and two Post Cycle 1 in am 1 in pm and Forma 10 pumps a day 5 in am 5 in pm. Bridge this is my first time running it so I am splitting dosages every 4-6 hours 3 a day. If you meant Nolva dosages I am unsure I have never used nolva.

 

[Lancer55]

If you order forma from mrsupps use needto10 for 10% off
If you order from N2BM use needto25 for 25% off

 

[Tmedlin]

Newest update I have been in the gym for a week now and I'm getting pretty solid workouts in. I have had to switch everything to 10-15 reps though for my neck and back. I can't bench much, so I have been doing allot of dumbbells which I am enjoying.
My diet is pretty stout and I am drinking more and more water everyday, but the problem is I went from 178-186 in a week and then I have stopped. I have been on 50mgs of dbol a day (25mg at around 8:30-9:30 every morning) and around 12-1 every night but from 25 to 50 mg I have not seen anymore gains and its been almost three weeks on this cycle. I still am at the 25mg proviron per day with liv 52 morning and night with AI's cycle support am and pm as well. I seem to almost be getting more shredded. I got the initial bloat when I first started the cycle, but that has all but gone away. You wouldn't think I am on dbol by the look of me this week compared to the first week on the cycle. Should I up the dosage to maybe 75mg per day? How would by body react to 25mg am, 25mg at lunch, then 25mg before bed? I heard the shelf life of dbol is 3-6 hours? Is my separating 25mg twice per day not the most affective way to take the dbol?
Let me know I am confused by the whole thing. I have bumped up to 4 protein shakes a day in desperation for more weight... I'm not really seeing any Strength gains either as I thought I would.

 

[Lancer55]

You need to up your calories more to feed those new muscles, some people take all their dbol pre workout for an extra boost giving you a better workout and making more muscle gains.

 

[Tmedlin]

You need to up your calories more to feed those new muscles, some people take all their dbol pre workout for an extra boost giving you a better workout and making more muscle gains.

Should i take the entire 50mg preworkout? Also how long before I workout should I take the dbol?

 

[Lancer55]

Should i take the entire 50mg preworkout? Also how long before I workout should I take the dbol?

you could but im not a dbol expert, when you don't spread a steroid or hormone out your blood levels aren't as stable and if I remember right could lead to increased side effects, if you go that route I would imagine 30 min to one hour tops. I would gladly search for you but I cannot use my right hand it took me forever to type this with left only, I got in a fight yesterday and its swollen cannot extend middle finger or grip anything.

 

[Tmedlin]

you could but im not a dbol expert, when you don't spread a steroid or hormone out your blood levels aren't as stable and if I remember right could lead to increased side effects, if you go that route I would imagine 30 min to one hour tops. I would gladly search for you but I cannot use my right hand it took me forever to type this with left only, I got in a fight yesterday and its swollen cannot extend middle finger or grip anything.

haha ok i'll do that then...
I'm sorry bro... who started the fight and who ended it?

 

[Lancer55]

haha ok i'll do that then...
I'm sorry bro... who started the fight and who ended it?

hand is much better today, he started it I finished it. I found this good thread on the matter theres a poll and several opinions so it can help you decide. It is 2 years old but shouldn't matter dbol is the same as it was 2 years ago.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/pre-work-out-dianabol-guys-642386.html