first cycle ok???

[hooverdeuce]

28 y.o, 6'2, 180#, 10% bf, training off and on for 12 yrs, have been serious lately and have 3500 cal mostly clean diet dialed in well. Here is my plan for 1st cycle, would like any advice before i get anything...

250mg test e week- weeks 1-10
hcg 250 iu week - weeks 4-12
adex on hand during cycle and weeks 13-15 .5 mg eod

let me know what you think , thanks

 

[ratemymohawk]

you could possible bump up your test to 300-500mg a week. will see great results that way. i have never used hcg or adex to comment on that. but i have always just used nolva for pct and it worked fine for me.

 

[2evil]

28 y.o, 6'2, 180#, 10% bf, training off and on for 12 yrs, have been serious lately and have 3500 cal mostly clean diet dialed in well. Here is my plan for 1st cycle, would like any advice before i get anything...

250mg test e week- weeks 1-10
hcg 250 iu week - weeks 4-12
adex on hand during cycle and weeks 13-15 .5 mg eod

let me know what you think , thanks

You need a real PCT - not just adex. How long is "lately"? How have your gains been naturally so far?

 

[hooverdeuce]

ok, so what do you suggest for a "real pct"? a serm like nolva or clomid? i'm open to suggestions but please elaborate with your reasoning, thanks

 

[hooverdeuce]

and 3 years seriously, my gains are ok but not as good as i would expect after lifting well for so long.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

i dont mind 250mg at all i made good gains off of it..read up on some PCT info bro

 

[Bigpimpin10]

its the biggest part of your cycle without pct ..kiss your gains goodbye.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

250mg/wk of test is fine for a first cycle.

For PCT if you have a-dex thats fine to go "along" with a good PCT at a small dose like .25mg EOD. You definately should not need an AI while on cycle unless you get gyno symptoms.

Clomid and nolva....... You dont need either ever. Everyone here is pretty much split down the middle about that and I'm sure some will say It works great for them.
just use PP's TRS and post cycle and unleashed. Some HCG if you like. Along with the small a-dex dose.

PCT is 100% as important as your cycle. If you have a crap PCT you may as well flush your gear. Cause you will end up exactly where you started without solid PCT.

 

[brandonp005]

My suggestion would be:

Weeks 1-10 Test Eth @ 250mg/wk
Weeks 4-11 HCG @ 250iu/wk
Weeks 12-15 Sustain Alpha and Post Cycle

***With running the Test Eth @ 250mg/wk, I think you could probably get away with either just Sustain Alpha or Post Cycle. If I was you I would run both though, just to be on the safe side. I personally like the full Test Recovery Stack by Primordial Performance and Post Cycle. I also like to throw in some Unleashed with my PCTs.

***Run Arimidex @ .5mg/EOD if you start to see signs of gyno(itchy nips). I had to bump my arimidex up to
.5mg/ED when I ran my last cycle of Test Eth @ 500mg/wk. I get signs really easy though. Some of us are more gyno prone than others.

 

[EZ_E]

My suggestion would be:

Weeks 1-10 Test Eth @ 250mg/wk
Weeks 4-11 HCG @ 250iu/wk
Weeks 12-15 Sustain Alpha and Post Cycle

***With running the Test Eth @ 250mg/wk, I think you could probably get away with either just Sustain Alpha or Post Cycle. If I was you I would run both though, just to be on the safe side. I personally like the full Test Recovery Stack by Primordial Performance and Post Cycle. I also like to throw in some Unleashed with my PCTs.

***Run Arimidex @ .5mg/EOD if you start to see signs of gyno(itchy nips). I had to bump my arimidex up to
.5mg/ED when I ran my last cycle of Test Eth @ 500mg/wk. I get signs really easy though. Some of us are more gyno prone than others.

^^^^ There it is...

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I think .5mg eod is way overkill for 250mg/wk. especially for a first cycle. You will never know if you dont need an AI if you dont try your cycle without it. No reason to run it if you dont need it. As brandonp005 said, he is very sensitive and needs it. Myself on the otherhand could run a 1000mg of test a week and wouldnt need an AI. Try it without first. No point wasting it during cycle unless you find out you need it.

 

[hooverdeuce]

Ya, I agree with you burn. I don't want to use nolva or clomid and I'm not planning on using the adex unless needed. So it looks like I will be getting 2500mg test e, some hcg, adex, and one of the pct products, most likely sustain alpha. Which one of these do you prefer? I don't want to get more than 1, thanks

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Ya, I agree with you burn. I don't want to use nolva or clomid and I'm not planning on using the adex unless needed. So it looks like I will be getting 2500mg test e, some hcg, adex, and one of the pct products, most likely sustain alpha. Which one of these do you prefer? I don't want to get more than 1, thanks

Just get the 20 or 30% discount from one of the mods and run The TRS stack. I would get post cycle and unleashed from the EF store(cheapest). It might seem pricey for all of it but what your paying for is whats going to allow you to keep your gains. Remember that.

 

[brandonp005]

I love the way Sustain makes me feel. I also like the way Unleashed makes me feel. They are all great products bro, so if your funds are low, just look at which you can get a better deal on.