First Cycle Help

[Wulfgar]

yikes
bro, @ this stage and @ your size you will see tremendous gains doing a Deca only cycle. 200 mg every 8 days for 64 days
no PCT needed
remember growth thresholds. we are in this for the long haul. do the MINIMUM amount for MAXIMAL results. a deca only cycle will give you as much muscle as u are capable of putting on in an 8 week period as long as your nutirtion is spot on and your protein intake is adequate(also, hard consistent training). good luck bro

 

[littleb]

As bruce said, you will get a different answer from different folks, depends on personal preference and experence. That said I like to see first cycle of 250-500 mg test a week 12 weeks.. even throw in some dbol to jump start.. DONT start mixing long acting esters till you know how you react to each compound..

 

[robigd2923]

Wow, a lot of different answers and recommendations here.

Wulfgar, what about deca dick? Don't I need to worry about that?

For the most part, do you guys recommend that I do take winny with my first cycle, or should I just leave it out?

 

[Wulfgar]

Wow, a lot of different answers and recommendations here.

Wulfgar, what about deca dick? Don't I need to worry about that?

For the most part, do you guys recommend that I do take winny with my first cycle, or should I just leave it out?

lol, nah man, not @ that dose. your blood plasma levels will be too low to shut ur libido down that hard. but they will be up enough to very significantly affect protein synthesis in your fresh receptors.
remember deca has a 16 day active life, so by day 8 100 mg have been relased in your system(think bell curve). if u dose ever 8 days the bell curves overlap keeping your blood plasma levels much more constant.
trust me on this bro. ive seen ALOT of bros do this cycle and thank me greatly afterwards because they didnt oversaturate thier bodies with all kinds of gear on theier first cycle and long term they had much better progress on much less AAS.


and if ur still worried bout deca dick keep some cialis and/or viagara on hand. hell those are fun even without deca dick

 

[niv]

i just finished my first cycle (sust) and listen to me when i tell you to kick start the mother fucker! i didn't feel the shit for like 5 weeks until it hit.. and yeah 250mgs won't do shit!! i did 500 and bearly felt.. but thats just me do some dbol 1-4

 

[robigd2923]

I have decided to go with the cycle that Wulfgar recommended.

Deca
200mg every 8 days for 64 days.
Nolva PST (if necessary)

Reading through these posts about Deca dick has scared me a little bit, but Wulfgar has assured me at this dose, this isn't something I need to worry about

I would like to hear other peoples experiences as far as Deca dick/gyno are concerned, based on the amounts above (200mg).

Thanks for all of your help guys!

yikes
bro, @ this stage and @ your size you will see tremendous gains doing a Deca only cycle. 200 mg every 8 days for 64 days
no PCT needed
remember growth thresholds. we are in this for the long haul. do the MINIMUM amount for MAXIMAL results. a deca only cycle will give you as much muscle as u are capable of putting on in an 8 week period as long as your nutirtion is spot on and your protein intake is adequate(also, hard consistent training). good luck bro

 

[black sheep]

Everyone has different opinions, but that low dose of deca will not yeild the gains you are hoping for with a first cycle.

99% of people will respond great to a test (sust) only cycle. I say get some sust 250 and do one cc twice a week for 10 weeks. Keep nolva on hand incase you start having gyno symptoms. Use nolva for PCT.

Bruce is the only person I have ever heard of that looses libido on test. He is right that everyone is different, but most will agree test is a great first cycle.

Save the winny for later - you really dont need it and it is not going to add much to your cycle - just tax you liver a bit while on it.

If you really want to add anything with the test - throw in 40mg of var ed for the first 6 weeks - that will boost your strength while waiting for the test to kick in at about week 4.

Eat, Sleep, Train, Grow like weed....... Repeat

 

[rykertest]

I must say I am suprised at some of the suggestions. Honestly, the first run SHOULD be after a solid base is established.

That being said with proper diet and excercise (DIET MUST BE ON TARGET) then test e at 250 up to 500 a week for 12 weeks is a very solid typical first cycle. Run Arimidex EOD for bloat and have Nolvadex on hand BEFORE you start the cycle for your PCT.

I would stay away from the other compunds until you have experience with the compound alreayd in your system to begin with.

 

[Neo22]

I'm amazed by everyone promoting 500mg a week. None of you know how he will respond to a small dosage. He might be super sensitive and he might not be. I would be concerned with the low dose of deca. Taking the test out of your system doesn't sound like the best idea in the world. I would stay safe and run test.

Test E or Prop 250mg EW for 8-12 weeks
aromatose inhibitor of your choice
hcg after last test shot at 500iu a day
pct of nolva/clomid for 4-6 weeks until recovery

 

[robigd2923]

What do you mean when you say you would be concerned with the low dose of deca?

I would be concerned with the low dose of deca. Taking the test out of your system doesn't sound like the best idea in the world. I would stay safe and run test.