First cycle... alternative to dbol to avoid gyno?

[FQRboost]

Like I said....

Here's my stats because I know ill catch hell if i dont include them lol
6'0" 195lbs 22 years old working out for 5-6 years, serious lifting for the last few

about to stack up for my first cycle, I know its common to just run dbol with test for the first few weeks to get the kickstart, but should I be worried about gyno with dbol? I know obviously its a side and some people get them, some dont... but I still plan on using an AI for the whole cycle. I know other compounds are less likely to cause gyno, but should I not use any other ones being my first cycle?

Or.... is it something not to worry about too much for my first cycle... I'm going to get bloodwork results in a couple days and I can post post my estrogen levels...

thanks guys!

 

[Silv]

If you are running an ai I wouldn't worry about it at all. I've ran 50mg a day for 5 weeks on dbol (god that sucked) with no ai and have no gyno. Remember when you read about sides they are possible and definite. I wouldn't worry about gyno especially if you have an ai. If you start experiencing symptoms just start using it or up the dosage. (I prefer to not run an so with dbol. Dbol makes you bloat as you gain ai will keep bloat down and will hinder gains).

Btw what does your cycle look like.

 

[FQRboost]

my cycle is something like this... not completely done though...

1-20 Armidex or aromasin 12.5mg/ED
1-12 Test-E 500mg/week (2 pins mon and thurs)
1-4 (or 1-6) Dbol 25mg-30mg ED
13-14 HCG 1000iu/wk
15-18 HCGenerate
15-18 Clomid 40/40/20/20
15-18 Nolva 100/100/50/50
15i20 Unleashed or DAA or both

 

[Silv]

You are way too freaked out about gyno. On that cycle I wouldn't even consider an ai personally. (I always have it on hand just in case). If you just smash down ai it will hurt your gains. Believe it or not the water retention is what helps your strength out.

 

[Oatmeal12]

my cycle is something like this... not completely done though...

1-20 Armidex or aromasin 12.5mg/ED
1-12 Test-E 500mg/week (2 pins mon and thurs)
1-4 (or 1-6) Dbol 25mg-30mg ED
13-14 HCG 1000iu/wk
15-18 HCGenerate
15-18 Clomid 40/40/20/20
15-18 Nolva 100/100/50/50
15i20 Unleashed or DAA or both

Looks like a great cycle but your clomid and nolva dosage is mixed up.
15-18 Clomid 100/100/50/50
15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Also I would go a bit lower on the clomid dosage

 

[FQRboost]

ohhh my bad! I knew that... typed it wrong! and I think I may back off on the dosage a bit on the SERMs and keep the AI on hand in case....

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Lol..

You don't have to worry about gyno. Run the ai from the start

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

my cycle is something like this... not completely done though...

1-20 Armidex or aromasin 12.5mg/ED
1-12 Test-E 500mg/week (2 pins mon and thurs)
1-4 (or 1-6) Dbol 25mg-30mg ED
13-14 HCG 1000iu/wk
15-18 HCGenerate
15-18 Clomid 40/40/20/20
15-18 Nolva 100/100/50/50
15i20 Unleashed or DAA or both

1) arimidex and aromasin are different: aromasin you'd run at 25mgs/day if you are scared of gyno, arimidex you'd run at 1mg/day.

2) your PCT is not good and your cycle aids are missing.

 

[dylangemelli]

you could substitute dianabulk for dbol on this cycle bro... have you read about it? a lot less concern for estrogen and just as big of gains...

 

[Shrine1]

DianaBulk is currently giving great results so far from a log im following.. its a gteat choise

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