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coryriffel011

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Hey everyone I am new to this forum and I am about to start my first cycle. I want to lose about 30 pounds in the next 12 weeks. This is what I have been thinking about taking, please tell me if you can if I am correct and it will help me achieve my goals. Clenbutoral and Cytomel t-3 for 5 weeks and 8 week cycle of sustanon. I want to lose as much fat as possible and continue to put on as much lean muscle mass as possible while losing the fat. Thanks if you would suggest something please do so.
 
How bout some stats bro ? How long you been training ? Whats the diet like ? Personally, I would diet down naturally with maybe some Clen-E/C/A or Thermorexin and try to shed that un-wanted body fat, then hit your cycle if you are ready to do so.

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I am 23 years old 6'2 230 19% body fat I have just started getting back into serious weight lifting about three months ago. I was really into for 4 years but I tore my shoulder my senior year in baseball and started partying to much. So this why I am asking for advice.
 
The only thing I would use in my first cycle would be test at 500mg's a week and maybe some deca thrown in for good measure. Why fuck with your thyroid when you want to lose 30 pounds (If you're that overweight there are many things you can do before t3)? If you were getting ready for a show and more experienced then by all means tear it up with the t3.
 
loose the weight naturally... i lost 35 last summer on contest diet, I used Thermorexin and a little bit of clen. i ate super clean though and did cardio the last few weeks.
save the t3
 
silverbackn said:
The only thing I would use in my first cycle would be test at 500mg's a week and maybe some deca thrown in for good measure. Why fuck with your thyroid when you want to lose 30 pounds (If you're that overweight there are many things you can do before t3)? If you were getting ready for a show and more experienced then by all means tear it up with the t3.
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I agree totally
 
I would just eat properly and work out properly. At 19% body fat you have not shown that you are willing to do what it takes to be healthy. Keep working out and eating right. AAS are not magic. I seriously doubt with 500mgs of test, clen etc you will lose 30lbs in 3 months. Prove to yourself you can do it on your own. Then think about using AAS.
 
Thanks for all the advice fella's, also if you dont mind me asking why is it so bad to put the clen and T-3 together when I start off? Sorry, I am new to all of this and I am just trying to find out as much info as possible by people that know what they are talking about!
 
It's not that they are together, It's the T3 itself. It messes with your thyroid and in your situation its not really worth it to take that risk when you can do it without.
 
How would you suggest I use the clen? I had a guy email me and tell me to take 4 tabs under my tounge 15 mins before I would work out.
 
coryriffel011 said:
If you dont mind me asking what was your contest diet like?
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sorry couldn't get back to u sooner.. i have been busy..
i ate 7-8 meals a day
meal 1 oatmeal with some blueberries and splenda.. 9-10 egg whites
meal 2- light mrp
meal 3 - chicken and brown rice
meal 4- chicken and brown rice
meal 5- light mrp
meal 6/7, chicken and brown rice
meal 7/ 8 - chicken and lettuce (last meal of day)

pretty simple. drank at least 2 gal. water/ ed was on thermorexin for a few weeks before clen, then was on 1 week on 1 week off... only did clen about 3 weeks total of that diet... im going to run the clen and trex throughout (clen 2 weeks on 2 off) for my next contest.. and if i need an extra kick, i might go use some low dose t3
 
Thanks man that doesn't look to hard to follow at all, how many calories would you say that was? I have been trying to stay at about 2500 a day.
 
Hi, another newbie here, same aims - to lose fat and build muscle, on 12 week cycle. I'm on 500 sus and 400 deca, plus very strict diet - cut the carbs right back, but plenty of protein and loads of water. It's start of week 3 for me, strength is up a lot, fat coming off well, weight is down 13lbs. Oh and my most important lesson from last week - if you're gonna inject, be really careful to pull it out straight, not bent, I didnt realise how much I was pulling the needle sideways. Hope this helps.
 
coryriffel011 said:
Thanks man that doesn't look to hard to follow at all, how many calories would you say that was? I have been trying to stay at about 2500 a day.
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no its wasn't hard... just preparing the meals is the thing... calories probably around 2000- 2200. I did lose muscle since i wasn;t eating that much and I did a lot of cardio the last few weeks of my diet.. didn't compete since school work was way too much to handling, and also practice for the show.
 
I couldn't agree more with the people who posted "work hard first...." ....dude you have "been training for three months....." THREE MONTHS !!! are you kidding...you need 18-20 months in the gym working hard and sweating like crazy....eating , drinking and sleeping right. Then when you have exausted your natural gains then get back to the board and start asking questions........also...while you are training for the next 12 months you can read a couple books on what and how and when to stat with the gear.
Nothing personal but ...you need to exaust your body first if you expect to keep any gains after the gear is gone. I think if you start shooting now you will loose weight...you will look good this summer...and this time next year you will be right back where you started,,,weak, and overweight.
Don't take it personal.
 
Sweed, how much of the thermorexin should I buy? Also, do you suggest anything else? Maybe something that blocks carbs, I was reading about something from the AF store that burns the excess carbs or something to that extent.
 
coryriffel011 said:
Sweed, how much of the thermorexin should I buy? Also, do you suggest anything else? Maybe something that blocks carbs, I was reading about something from the AF store that burns the excess carbs or something to that extent.
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they also have glucorcell- doesn't store carbs as fat but puts them into the muscle for energy.
I used a lot of T-rex becayuse i could tolerate it... most people dont go above 6 pills a day.. i was using 9 a day... but start off using 2 ed. get the 180 count bottle. at 9 ed that was lasting me about 20 days. i probably went threw about 3 bottles.. i have about 1/2 a bottle left over. def going to use it for my cuttin phase again.
Livorex works well with T-rex as i have heard, its not a stim so u can use it with t-rex so not get that "cracked out" feeling, lol
 
Thanks I will, its not that I dont want to work hard at first, I am just trying something to help me lose the fat as quick as possible. Thanks for your advice!
 
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