Finally Back! (3rd Cycle Advice)

[Ampsycho]

*kicks open door* Hello again!
Well after having my ass kicked by the economy and being unemployed for 2 years, I'm back (and hopefully back on the gear soon)!

Finally putting together my next cycle, and wanted some opinions.

Stats:
Age:42 Height: 5'10.5" Weight: 173lbs Body Fat: 8.0%
Training: Since 16

12 week cycle
T-Bol 40mg ED (Weeks 1-4)
1-Test Cyp: 400mg per week (Weeks 1-10)
Test C: 500mg per week (Weeks 1-12)
HCG 600 IU (Week 1-12 To keep test production going)

Anti-estrogen:
Anastrozole: 0.5mg every other day


Diet: Approximately 3500 to 4000 clean calories per day

PCT:
HCG 600 IU per week (Weeks 12-16)
25mg of Clomid EOD 30 days (Weeks 12-16)
12.5 mg of Aromasin EoD (Weeks 12-16)

OK, let the punishment begin! LOL

 

[Johnny 138]

Bro! No need to use hcg that long! I would never recommend running hcg in pct either, you should definitely stop this when you begin pct.

 

[Ampsycho]

Really. That's basically what I ran the last two cycles. What's the down side?

 

[Johnny 138]

Decreased sensitivity, elevated estro. Now, running during pct is completely counterproductive. So hcg tricks your pituitary into telling your body to produce test etc, but in pct we want to resume natural function right? This is one of the biggest misconceptions about hcg, its use in pct. Running it during pct itself you are counteracting the other things you are doing to begin to produce natural test. Then when you quit the hcg, you haven't made the progress you would have because your body thought it was up and running already. I hope this makes sense.
The optimal hcg use is in a blast at the back end of your cycle right before pct, for a soft landing into recovery.
Evolutionary.org has a few good articles on this subject as well as a good video if you want to look into it for yourself.

 

[Ampsycho]

Actually, that makes a lot of sense considering how moody/emotional I was during PCT (although the Clomid had a lot to do with it I suspect).

What are your thoughts on the rest of the proposed cycle?

 

[Johnny 138]

Well you've got test cyp listed twice for two different durations and doses. I would run 12 weeks at 500mg and switch my on cycle AI to aromasin as well. I see you have it in your pct but its a better option through the whole run and the price is about the same. It wouldn't hurt to add some nolvadex to the pct at 40/40/20/20 just to be safe especially considering the low dose of clomid you are gonna run. I usually run 50 the first two weeks but if clomid gives you nasty sides 25 with the nolva might be best.

 

[Ampsycho]

So drop 1-test Cyp and the Anastrozole and use Aromasin all the way through PCT, and run Clomid EOD and Nolva ED with it during PCT. Is that right?

Last cycle I ran Equipoise with the test cyp, but someone told me that anything less than 16 weeks was a waste of time. As this will be my 3rd cycle, is there anything that I could run with it that wouldn't add a lot of water or cause 'E.D.' like Deca or Stanozolol?

Thanks for all the help, by the way.

 

[Johnny 138]

Well you should run that clomid every day in pct, but everything else you said there is right. Yeah, EQ should be run at least 16 weeks to really get the full effect. Its a very long ester and takes a long time to kick in. As far as other compounds that won't add water there's primo, which is expensive as hell, there's tren, which has very harsh side effect many can't handle, and then masteron. Masteron might be an option you want to look into if you really want to add something else, especially with your low body fat.

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

No need to run two serms. Pick clomid or nolva. My preference is clomid with an AI.

 

[Johnny 138]

Bro, he's only running clomid at 25 mg all the way through. That's a low dose, hence the nolva. If you do decide to add any Masterson be aware that it does lower estrogen, so keep an eye on how you are using your ai

 

[Ampsycho]

I'll probably just stick with the Test, but I was thinking about trying Tren.
What sides were you talking about, aside from the jitters and jacked heart rate?

 

[Johnny 138]

Night sweats, insomnia, extreme irritabity. It all dependa on the person and the dose though. Just be sure and go with tren a if you do decide to do it so that if the sides get bad you can scale your dosage back and see a difference quick. Also be sure and get a dopamine agonist like caber to control your prolactin levels. Don't need you to start lactating mid cycle, chicks don't really dig that.

 

[Ampsycho]

Night sweats, insomnia, extreme irritabity. It all dependa on the person and the dose though. Just be sure and go with tren a if you do decide to do it so that if the sides get bad you can scale your dosage back and see a difference quick. Also be sure and get a dopamine agonist like caber to control your prolactin levels. Don't need you to start lactating mid cycle, chicks don't really dig that.

OK, that settles it. Just Test this run. LOL
Thanks man.

 

[Ampsycho]

OK, after a lot of thought and some independent research, I've decided to stick with the Arimidex as my on cycle AI. It's what I used last time with no issues and I figure if it ain't broke...

I am going to switch the HCG to 600 IU used only in weeks 4-6 and 10-12, as well as doing the Nolva 40/40/20/20 for PCT.

Thoughts?
Appreciate all the assistance.

 

[Johnny 138]

Looks pretty good bro. You should be happy with this. The only thing I would add is that you are running a 12 week cycle right? If so the hcg will better serve you weeks 13 and 14, right before you start pct, than 10-12. I think you will find utilizing hcg like this far superior to the original plan. Looks good and good luck with your cycle.

 

[Ampsycho]

Wouldn't weeks 13&14 be the first 2 weeks of PCT?

 

[Johnny 138]

If you run test c weeks 1 - 12 then you wait two weeks for the test to clear your system before beginning pct. So 13 and 14 are empty, run your hcg here. Week 15 pct begins.

 

[Ampsycho]

If you run test c weeks 1 - 12 then you wait two weeks for the test to clear your system before beginning pct. So 13 and 14 are empty, run your hcg here. Week 15 pct begins.

Gotcha, thanks man.