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Cwibstr

Cwibstr

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I've put some time in laying out this run to get straight up mass. Been lifting 10 yrs but seriously for the last 3 yrs. I've done 4 cycles in the dark.
5'-8"
187 lbs
10 to 12% bf
49 yrs old

1-4 dbol 30mg ed
1-15 test 500mg
1-13 deca
1-15 arimidex .5 mg eod
1-13 prami .5 2xw
6-15 hcgenerate
1-15 n2guard
15-17 blast hgc
18-22 pct
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Test fusion
Forged post
Foam Stan
D-test chews.
 
Cwibstr said:
I've put some time in laying out this run to get straight up mass. Been lifting 10 yrs but seriously for the last 3 yrs. I've done 4 cycles in the dark.
5'-8"
187 lbs
10 to 12% bf
49 yrs old

1-4 dbol 30mg ed
1-15 test 500mg
1-13 deca
1-15 arimidex .5 mg eod
1-13 prami .5 2xw
6-15 hcgenerate
1-15 n2guard
15-17 blast hgc
18-22 pct
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Test fusion
Forged post
Foam Stan
D-test chews.
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Wow....perfect. I'm amazed. Good job.
 
Thanks, been lurking for a bit never really felt any sides from previous cycles but always felt the outcome could have been greater. I'll say one thing this site and the guys giving out there thoughts on how to run a cycle has really opened my eyes. So thank you.
 
How much deca?
 
Just sicker than fuck the first week, snapping out of it today. Backing tracking to figure out what's doing it, thinking its the prami. Instead of taking ever 3 days at .5 gonna try .25 eod.
 
Also started my hcgenerate today, gonna run it for the 12 weeks and start the hcg couple weeks earlier at the tail end right before the blast going into pct.
 
So Needto you'd drop clomid? I added it cuz it seemed a standard in pct from what I picked up from Dylan's post on pct and it seems he really knows his shit like most of you guys.
 
Cwibstr said:
So Needto you'd drop clomid? I added it cuz it seemed a standard in pct from what I picked up from Dylan's post on pct and it seems he really knows his shit like most of you guys.
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Check the join dates, user titles, and post counts. I was the one that sent Dylan his first pm to let him know I thought he has great potential and I was right like almost always. He has come a long way and learned a lot but He is not on the same level as a needto or a nelson or dare I say even a RADAR. Let him get a few more years under his belt. There is a reasons I'm still running the Nut house here... Some day I could see Dylan taking it over but he has more work to do...

Do I see his advice has detrimental?? Is 25mg clomid or 10mg nolva going to make or brake a pct?? Not likely but if someone did have problems I would blame it on that first lololol... In the end having different opinions can be a good thing. Maybe he will come up with something to prove me otherwise in which case I would not be against learning from him or anyone. :qt::qt:
 
By no means I was showing any disrespect to you Needto, I know you are the man. I've only been here for I short time but I've learn there are guys on here when they post info on something I listen and research it. I've never used clomid, just from what I picked up in research that low dose seem standard in pct. I put some time in putting this cycle together to get the most out of it and open to any education I can get.
 
needtogetaas said:
Check the join dates, user titles, and post counts. I was the one that sent Dylan his first pm to let him know I thought he has great potential and I was right like almost always. He has come a long way and learned a lot but He is not on the same level as a needto or a nelson or dare I say even a RADAR. Let him get a few more years under his belt. There is a reasons I'm still running the Nut house here... Some day I could see Dylan taking it over but he has more work to do...

Do I see his advice has detrimental?? Is 25mg clomid or 10mg nolva going to make or brake a pct?? Not likely but if someone did have problems I would blame it on that first lololol... In the end having different opinions can be a good thing. Maybe he will come up with something to prove me otherwise in which case I would not be against learning from him or anyone. :qt::qt:
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let me start off by saying that i am once again flattered by your compliments that you give me...

secondly... i am IN NO WAY questioning ANYTHING needto says in the least... He is my fucking mentor for cryin out loud... so you need to listen to him... pretty much my entire pct is his concepts or products...

clomid is not going to make or break your pct at all... ag guys makes a nice product that can be a little help but listen to need to on protocols...

one of the things that has helped me to accomplish a lot is by never thinking i know too much and continuously learning and needto has provided me with SO MUCH knowledge throughout...

i am my own person but i will always give credit where credit is due...
 
I did run my past cycles in the dark and had good results but always felt they could be better and I've learned a ton from EF. I've already got all cycle and PCT supplements before I started the cycle. Advice taken and have no problem dropping the clomid in the PCT.
 
I think we may find a low does of clomid is not the worst Idea in the world.. Right now All my research makes me dead set against it if you have ran deca, tren, dieselbolan or any progistrin like them simple because they cause to many problems. If people learned to drop these steroids several weeks before pct and run something like Dostinex and or provirone in the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle they would not cause so much trouble during pct. If you are going to use nolva or clomid during pct the general and accepted dosing by any and all board vets would be LOW DOSE!!! and in combo with forma-stanzol..

As for AG-guys Let me shed some light on this place.. They were once on top of the world and prob the best if not one of the best operations known ON ALL FORUMS between for a good many years. I knew them from 2005 to about 2008 to be the best of the best. Around 2009-20010 Not really sure exactly but around this time they went under new management IE the company was sold switched hands what ever. The company went ta crap and everyone hated them for a long time.

Sense watching their good name go to crap really rubbed the old owners the wrong way they have gone and taken over the company once again. With the company back in the hands of the old owners I am fully confident this company will once again Rise to its former glory.. So much so that I have decided to drop my chemicalneed company. I have never seen the need for competition on this site. A house divided against its self can never stand has always been my way of life and the way i have run things around here. That being said you may see me role out some peptides or maybe endorse another peptide company I see fit too. For now Ai's serms and what have you can be bought from Ag-guys again and no one has to worry they work.
 
I'm running prami from day one thru cycle and stopping deca 2 weeks before the test and I already got forma stanzol for pct there's no need to run the clomid?
 
Cwibstr said:
I'm running prami from day one thru cycle and stopping deca 2 weeks before the test and I already got forma stanzol for pct there's no need to run the clomid?
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Lowering estrogen is not a PCT. You need to get the HPTA running again and in the interim, you need to have the highest Free T as possible. That's where HCG , phytoserms and UNLEASHED come in. Then follow with BRIDGE.
 
Nelson yes I've read the reviews and I'm diffently gonna run the Bridge. I already got test infusion, forged post cycle, forma stanz and D- test chews for pct and from what you and Needto have suggested I'm gonna drop the clomid.
 
Cwibstr said:
I'm running prami from day one thru cycle and stopping deca 2 weeks before the test and I already got forma stanzol for pct there's no need to run the clomid?
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Nope.. And your next post I think what you have planed now is fine. Phytoserm has prolensis I have to add which is a standardized extract of Bulbine and thus far the only proven to work version I would trust. Tanks :qt:
 
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