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Feedback on Tbol/Anavar/Test E for first cycle

Truongy

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Hey guys, this will be my first cycle and I still can’t seem to make a decision whether to do Tbol or Anavar (maybe both?) with test enanthate of course. Here are some options I’ve thought about:

Option 1:

Tbol and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 1-6, Tbol @ 80mg/everyday

Option 2:

Anavar and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 5-12, Anavar @ 60mg/everyday

Option 3:

Tbol, Anavar, and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 1-4, Tbol @ 30mg/everyday (kick start)
Week 7-12, Anavar @ 60mg/everyday (finisher)

PCT:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid? Not sure?
HCG? Not sure?
Aromasin or Arimidex on cycle just in case (which one is better?)

Others:

Liv.52

About me:

I am 22, and have been lifting for 3 years, 2.5 years seriously. I am 175cm (5’ 7”) and currently weigh 73.7kg (162lbs) @ 6% body fat. I have been cutting for a competition and weighed 83kg (182lbs) two months ago @ 12-13% body fat. My diet is pretty strict. I am carb cycling at the moment, 3 days low carb @ 2416cals, 151c, 302p, 67f, and 1 day high carb @ 3333cals, 417c, 250p, 74f. When bulking, 4000cals @ 500c, 250p, 111f.

I am looking to gain lean solid dry muscle that is maintainable after PCT. So which option do you guys recommend is the best? Also how much weight can I expect to gain on my first cycle, considering diet is spot on?

Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions. :D
 
Hey guys, this will be my first cycle and I still can’t seem to make a decision whether to do Tbol or Anavar (maybe both?) with test enanthate of course. Here are some options I’ve thought about:

Option 1:

Tbol and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 1-6, Tbol @ 80mg/everyday

Option 2:

Anavar and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 5-12, Anavar @ 60mg/everyday

Option 3:

Tbol, Anavar, and Test E

Week 1-12, Test E @500mg/each week
Week 1-4, Tbol @ 30mg/everyday (kick start)
Week 7-12, Anavar @ 60mg/everyday (finisher)

PCT:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid? Not sure?
HCG? Not sure?
Aromasin or Arimidex on cycle just in case (which one is better?)

Others:

Liv.52

About me:

I am 22, and have been lifting for 3 years, 2.5 years seriously. I am 175cm (5’ 7”) and currently weigh 73.7kg (162lbs) @ 6% body fat. I have been cutting for a competition and weighed 83kg (182lbs) two months ago @ 12-13% body fat. My diet is pretty strict. I am carb cycling at the moment, 3 days low carb @ 2416cals, 151c, 302p, 67f, and 1 day high carb @ 3333cals, 417c, 250p, 74f. When bulking, 4000cals @ 500c, 250p, 111f.

I am looking to gain lean solid dry muscle that is maintainable after PCT. So which option do you guys recommend is the best? Also how much weight can I expect to gain on my first cycle, considering diet is spot on?

Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions. :D

since its your first cycle, its generally only recommended to use test and possibly an oral... I never see an issue with running two orals on the first cycle... I will lay it all out for you including pct.. YOU MUST run n2guard with any oral bro... orals are very toxic and can all cause significant damage if you do not protect yourself... you also need hcgenerate es on cycle to help keep suppression to a minimum and to ensure a smooth transition into pct and an optimal recovery...

1-12 test e 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod ag-guys.com
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week
9-14 anavar 60-80 mg day
9-14 n2guard n2bm.com

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com


OPTIONAL

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
 
Hey Dylan, thanks for helping me out, I really appreciate it. I've made some minor changes and was wondering if this was good.

Week 1-12, Test E @ 500mg each week
Week 1-12, Aromasin @ 12.5mg every other day
Week 1-4, Tbol @ 60-80mg everyday
Week 1-4, N2Guard
Week 5-12, HCGenerate ES
Week 7-12, Anavar @ 60mg everyday
Week 7-12, N2Guard
Week 13-14, HCG 1000ius each week
Week 15-18, Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/20/20/20, Aromasin @ 12.5mg every other day, HCGenerate

Questions:

Can I use HCGenerate instead of HCGenereate ES on cycle? Is there really a big difference?

Also is N2Guard necessary in PCT?

Do I use Aromasin in weeks 13-14?

Would it be a good idea to run Tbol at low doses for Weeks 1-6 and then transition into Anavar Weeks 7-12?

Thanks, and sorry for all the questions.
 
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