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excellent interview with L.Hubbard Jr, the Sciencetologist guy...

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We went to the flea market and these ppl were selling his book and were trying to test my stress level
The woman kept saying i had stress and was asking me questions that I did not think was any of her business
that kinda gave me the creeps
 
Definate nutjobs, Tom Cruise takes it to the hairy edge of absolute lunacy, wonder how much money they have taken from him over the years.
 
redguru said:
Definate nutjobs, Tom Cruise takes it to the hairy edge of absolute lunacy, wonder how much money they have taken from him over the years.


did you read the interview?? sounds fun as hell, drugs, booze, sex and black magic...if i was super rich i would sign up
 
Gambino said:
sokly they were trying to audit you
they put my fingers in these clamp things and was asking me questions
the stress scale didnt move but she kept telling me i had stress and im like um ok......
 
SoKlueles said:
they put my fingers in these clamp things and was asking me questions
the stress scale didnt move but she kept telling me i had stress and im like um ok......

part of their auditing process...read the interview sweet tits
 
Gambino said:
did you read the interview?? sounds fun as hell, drugs, booze, sex and black magic...if i was super rich i would sign up


Only for the people doing the fleecing, not the fleeced.
 
i saw in the news Tom Cruise spouting off on some chat programe about sciencetology....looked crazed babbling on and on like anyone gives a shit about his fucked up beliefs, dude needs to chill
 
redguru said:
Only for the people doing the fleecing, not the fleeced.


well the fleeced have fun by being fleeced... i.e the act of fleecing them has provided them with pleasure, however false it is...everybody wins in cults :devil:
 
SoKlueles said:
We went to the flea market and these ppl were selling his book and were trying to test my stress level
The woman kept saying i had stress and was asking me questions that I did not think was any of her business
that kinda gave me the creeps


same thing happend to me at the mall..

some fucker gave me these things to hold on to (metal calipers) he asked me questions and some meter thing moved. and said i needed to chill more (dude i am a mega chill excpet well....most of the time

then he asked if I had ever used drugs. ..then asked to name them...so i asked like medical or like rec? he said both if the medical had any thing to do with my mental wellness

well i told the rec drugs and he about flipped out like a shitstain flip out

...basically everything but PCP or tina ...

then he asked why did/ do drugs ? i dont do them anymore but they make u feel like no other.. cant get those feelings with out drugs something everyone needs to experiance .being on X was the greatest in my life id say

tom cruise is an offical nut job..he was on the today show and went ape
 
tiger88 said:
same thing happend to me at the mall..

some fucker gave me these things to hold on to (metal calipers) he asked me questions and some meter thing moved. and said i needed to chill more (dude i am a mega chill excpet well....most of the time

then he asked if I had ever used drugs. ..then asked to name them...so i asked like medical or like rec? he said both if the medical had any thing to do with my mental wellness

well i told the rec drugs and he about flipped out like a shitstain flip out

...basically everything but PCP or tina ...

then he asked why did/ do drugs ? i dont do them anymore but they make u feel like no other.. cant get those feelings with out drugs something everyone needs to experiance .being on X was the greatest in my life id say

tom cruise is an offical nut job..he was on the today show and went ape

yeah she got me to hold calipers
I dont get it gambino why was i being audited? There was no way in hell i would have given them money.......
and after reading that......omg they were awful and why in the HELL does Tom Cruise believe in that shit?
 
From the alt.religion.scientology faq sheet.

5. Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon

[From the case Church of Scientology International vs.
Steven Fishman and Uwe Geertz, US District Court, Central
District of California, Case No. CV 91 6426 HLH (Tx),
dismissed by CSI against themselves with prejudice.]

[David Miscavige is the current leader of scientology]


DECLARATION OF ANDRE TABAYOYON

I, ANDRE TABAYOYON, declare as follows:

(...)

115. I witnessed money from various non profit Scientology
organizations, and labor provided by various non profit Scientology
organizations being used for the personal benefit it of Miscavige, Tom
Cruise, other Scientology senior executives and other Scientology
celebrities (such as John Travolta, Chick Corea and Priscilla Presley).

116. I also saw monies and/or personnel from various Scientology
non profit religious organizations being used for the personal benefit
of Miscavige. We constructed a music room for him, a lounge, a dressing
room, a personal exercise room and personnel storage rooms. The
approximate cost of this was between $250,000, $300,000. This does not
include the cost of labor since RPFers, or slave labor was used on these
projects for personal enurement of Miscavige.

117. Miscavige, other senior Scientologists and certain
celebrities would also use the movie theater we constructed on the base
to view first run movies provided to him by his acquaintances in the
movie industry. The cost of this was easily $150,000. This cost does
not include labor (again slave labor) or expensive film projection
equipment.

118. During the 1980's, Miscavige befriended the actor Tom Cruise
and they spend a lot of time together on the Hemet base. Their special
chef, Sinar Parman, would prepare them fancy meals. Often they would
hang out alone in the space designated for L. Ron Hubbard on the Clipper
Ship we built in the desert. This space had a small kitchen, a little
dining room, a little bar and a bed. They also had the exclusive use of
the officers lounge. On other occasions Miscavige and Cruise would work
out in the expensive gym we built for exclusive and restricted use. No
one else was allowed to talk to Tom Cruise when he was on the base. One
time one of the gardeners spoke to him and this caused a major flap on
the base. At Gold, Miscavige is known by his initials DM and Tom Cruise
by his initials TC. From the late 1980's until I left the Gold, Tom
Cruise was provided a personal and exclusive apartment and storage
facilities by the Scientology organization and at Scientology's expense.
Tom Cruise kept two Yamaha motorcycles, a Mercedes Benz automobile and a
large motor home at Gold. These were stored in what used to be
Hubbard's garage and parking lot. Obviously, Miscavige and Cruise have
developed a special relationship. One is a young world domineering
celebrity. The other is a young domineering cult leader who seeks to
'clear' the world and to rule it according to Scientology beliefs and
practices.

119. When Tom Cruise got married to Nicole Kidman, they and David
Miscavige went to a Colorado Ski Resort for the marriage ceremony. A
Sea Org staffer (Sinar Parman) was taken along to do personal cooking
for Tom Cruise and Miscavige at the expense of Scientology not for
profit religious organizations. This left only 3 cooks at Gold to cook
for 800 people three times a day.

120. I personally participated in the construction of an apartment
at the Gold base, using extensive funds from various non profit
Scientology religious organizations, for the personal and exclusive use
of Tom Cruise. This was done on the orders of David Miscavige. Even
though Miscavige has claimed to be Chairman of the Board of RTC, here he
is directing the expenditure of CSI money and the deployment of CSI
labor -- both paid and slave. Other apartment cottages were built for
the use of John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Edgar Winters, Priscilla
Presley and other Scientology celebrities who are carefully prevented
from finding out the real truth about the Scientology organization. The
labor used to construct Tom Cruise's apartment was provided by Gold, a
division of CSI, and persons from a myriad of Scientology organizations
serving time in the RPF. The RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force) is the
Scientology gulag or concentration camp. Using RPFers to renovate and
reconstruct Tom Cruise's personal and exclusive apartment at the
Scientology Gold base is equivalent to the use of slave labor for Tom
Cruise's benefit. The Tom Cruise apartment at the Gold base is located
at the golf course end of the Gold base, closest to State Street. When
Tom Cruise visits the Gold base, and stays in his personal apartment, he
is cared for by a Sea Org steward.

121. We also had to renovate the Tom Cruise apartment at the Hemet
Base after it was damaged by a mud slide. The repairs had to be
performed on an emergency basis. Both the Gold crew and the RPFers were
placed on extended hours to restore the apartment. Again, Tom Cruise
was benefiting from the use of what is essentially prison slave labor
being worked almost around the clock.

122. Tom Cruise also enjoyed use of facilities constructed on the
Gold base that were not available to any Scientology staff except the
senior most Scientologists on the base, particularly Miscavige and his
lieutenants. For example, I saw Tom Cruise use the exercise room which
was off limits to at least 98 percent of the staff. Tom Cruise also had
unrestricted access to the Ship which has a sauna, jacuzi and a large
Olympic sized swimming pool. With regard to the Miscavige/Cruise gym
this was built in conjunction with the estates facility in approx. 1989.
The gym building cost approx. $150,000 (again using slave labor) and
contains a complete lineup of the most modern weight training equipment.
It is one of the most incredible gyms imaginable and is for the
exclusive use of Tom Cruise, David Miscavige and other specially and
specifically approved by him. It also has an incredible shower area.

123. To assure that Tom Cruise's stays at the Hemet base were
enjoyable, special provisions were made for him and restrictions were
imposed on the staff at the Hemet base. Millions of Church dollars were
spent so that millionaire Tom Cruise could regularly visit the
Scientology base and be friends with Miscavige. For example, Tom Cruise
received special meal services, special room services and the Hemet base
staff was restricted in its access to Hemet base facilities. Indeed, a
girl by the name of Jennie Matsamura was assigned to take care of him
and his renovated cottage. The Hemet base staff was barred from going
where Tom Cruise might be present. Construction and renovation work
that was done on the base for Tom Cruise's benefit often had to be torn
up and redone because the coloring was slightly off or there were a few
inches of group that didn't quite match in color. Once we had to pour a
concrete walkway so that Tom Cruise would not have to walk on the desert
soil. Before the concrete dried it rained. The concrete was spoiled.
Miscavige went into a fury over that.

124. On one occasion, prior to a Cruise/Kidman visit, Miscavige
decided to redo the meadow in beautiful flowers; Tens of thousands of
dollars were spent on the project so that Cruise and Kidman could romp
there. However, Miscavige inspected the project and didn't like it. So
the whole meadow was plowed up, destroyed, replowed and sown with plain
grass.

125. Tom Cruise also received his upper level auditing at the Gold
base. All of his auditor training was provided under the auspices of
RTC and delivered by RTC. Officially, RTC has no auditing service
delivery capability. It exists solely to enforce the Scientology
trademarks. This is yet another example of how the purported corporate
compartmentalization exists only for the "WOG" world and has no meaning
within Scientology. At the time I left Gold, Tom Cruise had completed
Dianetics, Level O-IV, the Key to life course, the Life orientation
course and he was audited up to OT III.

126. OT III deals with body thetans ("bts") and clustered body
thetans ("clusters") . In essence, OT III deals with "the incident"
which Hubbard claims to have been the most engramic incident responsible
for the current state of man. According to OT III, 75 million years
ago, the solution to overpopulation in a space confederacy (consisting
of 26 planets) was solved. Now, each leaf on the Sea Org symbol
represents one of those planets. Each of these planets had approx.
150-200 billion citizens each. The overpopulation solution was to
disembody all the spirits ("mass murder") with the use of glycol
(alcohol and sugar) injected into the spinal cord causing an immediate
freezing up of the body and the unconsciousness of the being (soon to
become a bt or cluster) . The frozen bodies were then collected and
transported to earth (called Teegach by Hubbard) in space ships
resembling Boeing 707 jetliners. The bodies were piled up, as in the
Nazi massacres, on the top of various mountain sites around the then
earth. Inside these mountains were 17 strategically placed enormous
atomic bombs -- bigger than any built this century. After the citizens
who had been selected to be part of the solution were placed on the
mountains, the hydrogen bombs were ignited from a remote space station
(lunar moon) by the officers of Xenu who ruled the space confederacy.
After the explosions the now disembodied thetans were electronically
trapped and transported to areas now known as Hawaii and Las Palmas
where there were pre-constructed implant stations. Then there was a
long and arduous process of packaging the disembodied thetas (spirits)
into clusters with ideas, morals, social values, emotions, sensations,
pains and attitudes of what we now observe as human life. The clusters
were then dispersed over planet earth through the medium of ice. The
ice then melted and the first stage of implant command became activated.
This is known as 'Survival' in Dianetics. The bts or clusters then seek
a human body. When the bt or cluster occupies the body it will either
begin running or operating the body or the engramic commands earlier
received in the implants take place. This will occur over and over
again in what is known as the life cycle -- each time resetting the
implant and restarting its effect with a death or end of cycle.' This
technology can be used for tailor made psychosis, neurosis and general
madness. Indeed, implant technology of this sort can be used for many
purposes. Using implant technology, Hubbard teaches how you can cause
someone to do whatever you want them to do, starting at the prenatal
stage.

127. The purpose of auditing at the OT III level, such as Tom
Cruise has received, is to contact and audit the bts and clusters so
that the bts and clusters leave the body of the auditor. The purpose of
this is to free the person from the determinism of the bts and clusters.
However, the bts and clusters that are released by the solo auditor are
now back at the beginning of their implant which they received 75
million years ago. Survival then retriggers the basic implant which
then picks up a body, or attaches to one that is already occupied, and
re begins the whole cycle.

128. The ultimate goal of auditing is the return of self
determinism and abilities of the person being audited. In other words,
to return the person to the state they were in 75 million years ago
before Xenu handled the over-population problem.

129. Tom Cruise also audited Kevin Catano up to grade IV. Kevin
Catano was a member of the Sea Org security force at Gold. Usually a
Sea Org member in the security force would be audited only by a Sea Org
member -- not a public scientologist let alone Scientology celebrity.

130. Tom Cruise's p.c. (pre-clear) folder was kept in the Gold
case supervision (c/s) office which I had access to as a security
missionaire. It contains supposedly confidential information derived
during auditing sessions. However, the contents of such pre-clear
folders have been culled and used against people. it is my opinion,
based on my Scientology training, education and experience, that such
information is collected by the Scientology organization in order to be
able to exert control and influence over people such as Tom Cruise or
John Travolta should they ever attempt to leave the Scientology
organization.

131. In 1989/1990 we also constructed a tennis court at Gold for
the exclusive list of Celebrities and Miscavige. Non profit Scientology
religious organization funds were used for this inurement project. The
tennis court cost at least $200,000 to build. The rubber coating alone,
on the tennis court, cost $80,000. Then there was the landscaping and
rose garden around the tennis court.


(...)

I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United
States of America and of the State of California that the foregoing is
true and correct. Executed in Los Angeles, California this 5th day of
March, 1994.

Andre Tabayoyon
 
SoKlueles said:
yeah she got me to hold calipers
I dont get it gambino why was i being audited? There was no way in hell i would have given them money.......
and after reading that......omg they were awful and why in the HELL does Tom Cruise believe in that shit?


from what i gather they audit you to find out deviant things in your sexual past...then they use that to manipulate you
 
Gambino said:
from what i gather they audit you to find out deviant things in your sexual past...then they use that to manipulate you
oh she was trying to manipulate me
Even as i walked off she stared at me......and i saw her.....i think she did it so i would go back
I didnt, i followed my gut feeling and got the heck out of dodge
but she did have me worried for a few minutes
 
That previous post of mine shows how fscked up Tom Cruise is, he's not just a member, he's involved in the fleecing. Slave labor to build apartments for him, real wacky shit.
 
Gambino said:
interview with the son of the founder

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien269.html

very interesting, wordy but worth the read
i really hope this orgainization is investigated and their assests taken from them, they are as crooked as a dogs hind leg...

fucking whackos
wow excellent read, they really have that skywalker v darthvader evil father thing going on there at the end

it's so ridiculous that it makes me want to find out why so many people firmly believe in it

i wonder if they wear silly costumes at their big meetings?
 
i look forward to my next run in with mormon's or sciencetologists...armed with knowledge, i will slay their phoney beliefs
 
redguru said:
Ask a Mormon about the Angel Maroni


I'm gonna ask the next mormon who knocks on my door about Joesph Smith's peeping stones...Joesph Smith = L.Hubbard Sr, same fucking person, different generation
 
The Scientology whackos in Florida use released prisoners to flood internet chat rooms pumping penny stock scams. Of course, in Florida, all assets acquired thru scammed money cannot be touched if it is real estate.

Ironic.

Tom Cruise is a buttmunch. I love when he lost his shit when he learned Nicole was riding Lenny Kravitz's huge hog.
 
redguru said:
Ask a Mormon about the Angel Maroni

dude tell me!

I aint talking to no freaking mormons.

Nice article gambino. I want to hear more on sex and drugs!
 
bran987 said:
article is from June 1983?


penthouse interview 1983, yep.

very relevant even 20 plus yrs later, considering the clout sciencetology appears to still have
 
Cruise created controversy recently when he criticised actress Brooke Shields for revealing that she went into therapy and took anti-depressants to deal with postnatal depression.

Defending his remarks later on NBC television's "Today" show presented by Matt Lauer, Cruise launched into an attack on the whole field of psychiatric medicine, which Scientologists spurn.

"Psychiatry is a pseudo science," Cruise said. "She (Shields) doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.":lmao:
 
i read that bran, fuckin' pos he is. i'm so annoyed by these hollywood boobs, i have unoffically boycotted hollywood. i have not see a movie in some time nor will i be anytime soo. i don't want to support these fucks so they can spew their bullshit
 
It is difficult at best to have any respect for any person who believes in Scientology, Mormonism, Kaballah, or Rastafarianism.
 
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