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Evidence that the government is responsible for 9/11 twin towers (movie)

Code said:
Alex Jones is convinced of several things:
1.) The chinese are controlling the USA.
2.) There are lizards at the center of the Earth running the world.
3.) Everything that goes bad, is because the US wants to enslave it's citizens.


You've got a point with 2. But anyones crediabilty can be destroyed with a fine tooth comb. Take Bush for example. I've heard the guy was a raging alcoholic for a good part of his 'adult' life. Coke head, maybe?

Can a few screwy mistakes/ideas invalidate every message a person has?
 
Code said:
Newsflash Champ, ALL politicians in the Western Hemisphere (you slow folk to the North included) have Saudi money somewhere.

This is Alex Jones' official website....
http://www.infowars.com/

If anyone thrives on conspiracy and hyperbole, it's this dude.



Why get all upset there champ. Why do you have such a problem when someone's opinion differs from your own?

Open your mind and learn not to be a sheep.
 
I call all ya'll froggy canucks Champ. Besides, most of ya'll are too slow to realize I'm being a condescending ass-hole anyway.

I never said I disagreed with anyone, just said that the source of all this is a fucking joke and AT BEST unreliable.




Bigdawg1468 said:



Why get all upset there champ. Why do you have such a problem when someone's opinion differs from your own?

Open your mind and learn not to be a sheep.
 
i do still wonder about that building 7 though. it seems impossible to set that up for a controlled demolition in just a few hours.

i suppose they could've done a rush job since everything around it was destroyed anyway, and they didn't care if it fell over a bit.
 
Code said:
I call all ya'll froggy canucks Champ. Besides, most of ya'll are too slow to realize I'm being a condescending ass-hole anyway.

I never said I disagreed with anyone, just said that the source of all this is a fucking joke and AT BEST unreliable.






He very well may be an idiot and unreliable but like I said earlier you gotta look past the man and look at what he is saying. Then you ask is he making it up? Is he drawing his own conclusions? Is he trying to make things fit to what he believes.

IF and again I say IF anything the guys says its true, its true whether he is an idiot conspiracy therorist or not.
 
The only constants in his story is that he has yet to provide documentation on anything he's ever said.

Ever.




Bigdawg1468 said:



He very well may be an idiot and unreliable but like I said earlier you gotta look past the man and look at what he is saying. Then you ask is he making it up? Is he drawing his own conclusions? Is he trying to make things fit to what he believes.

IF and again I say IF anything the guys says its true, its true whether he is an idiot conspiracy therorist or not.
 
Yeah, it is food for thought.

And I think Dateline did something on the whole building 7 thing already.

From Zero said:
Very interesting and thought-provoking.
 
I found an article published by the Chicago Tribune shortly after the attacks referencing the chief structural engineer of the WTC stating the towers steel columns were designed to withstand an impact from a 707.

The 707 is apparently slightly smaller in size to the 767's that struck the north and south tower, have a slightly lighter max and dry take off weight, similar fuel capacity.

Engineers shocked by towers’ collapse
September 11, 2001


By Blair Kamin
Tribune architecture critic
Published September 11, 2001, 12:18 PM CDT

The World Trade Center, a symbol of American economic might, survived one terrorist attack in 1993. It was designed to withstand the impact of a jet, but both its towers collapsed this morning after planes rammed them.

The structural engineer who designed the towers said as recently as last week that their steel columns could remain standing if they were hit by a 707.




Les Robertson, the Trade Center’s structural engineer, spoke last week at a conference on tall buildings in Frankfurt, Germany. He was asked during a question-and-answer session what he had done to protect the twin towers from terrorist attacks, according to Joseph Burns, a principal at the Chicago firm of Thornton-Thomasetti Engineers.

Burns, who was present, said that Robertson said of the center, “I designed it for a 707 to smash into it.”

Burns, whose firm did the structural engineering for the Petronas Twin Towers in Malaysia -- the world’s tallest buildings -- said Robertson did not elaborate on the remark. Robertson could not be reached early today.

Completed in 1972 and 1973, the 110-story twin towers were the fifth and sixth tallest buildings in the world. One World Trade Center, finished in 1972, was briefly after its construction the world’s tallest building. The towers have been called “a monumental gate to New York and the United States.”

They withstood the 1993 attack, when a bomb-laden van exploded, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000.

Closely spaced steel columns that ringed their perimeter held up the World Trade Center towers. Chicago’s Aon Center (formerly the Amoco Building), completed in 1973, uses a similar support system, known to structural engineers as a “tube.”

Shocked by the building’s collapse, structural engineers pointed to fire as the likely cause of the structural failure.

“Fire melts steel,” Burns said. In addition, he said, the impact of the plane could have severely damaged the building’s sprinklers, allowing the fire to rage, despite fireproofing supposed to protect steel columns and beams.

“You never know in an explosion like that whether they (the sprinklers) get cut off,” Burns said.

Architects Minoru Yamasaki and Associates, in association with Emery Roth & Sons, designed the World Trade Center.

The structural engineers were the firm of Skilling, Helle, Chrstiansen, Robertson. The developer was The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Today’s attack marked the second time that a plane has crashed into a New York City skyscraper, although the first incident was an accident.

In 1945, a B-25 flying at 200 miles per hour slammed into the 78th and 79th floors of the Empire State Building, gouging an 18-by-20-foot hole 913 feet above the streets of Manhattan. The pilot, Lt. Col. William F. Smith Jr., had been heading from New York’s LaGuardia Airport to Newark, N.J., when he became disoriented.

Fourteen people died in the crash and the fire that followed -- three people in the plane and 11 in what was then the world’s tallest building.

Like the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, which also was struck by a plane, provided a sizable and symbolic target.

The Pentagon is the world’s largest office building, with a total of 6.5 million square feet, serves as headquarters for the world’s most powerful military. Sears Tower, by comparison, has about 3.5 million square feet of office space.
Copyright © 2004, Chicago Tribune

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-010911kamin-towers.story
 
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