Everyone's favorite PCT?

[C-Lo34]

I have tried many different ways of PCT as I've grown. I wanted to see what u guys thought on post cycle goodies. Especially for my test e, NPP, possibly tren ace cycle in January. Oh and a nice kick with dbol or Tbol at the beginning. On hand all the time caber, Letro, aromasin, Nolva, a dex.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I have tried many different ways of PCT as I've grown. I wanted to see what u guys thought on post cycle goodies. Especially for my test e, NPP, possibly tren ace cycle in January. Oh and a nice kick with dbol or Tbol at the beginning. On hand all the time caber, Letro, aromasin, Nolva, a dex.

At your level bro, your not cruising to maintain as much as possible?

 

[C-Lo34]

I'm cruising now. Everything is smooth. Just checking post ideas if I decide to go off next season after contests. That's not for sure, all depends on the contest season

 

[RickRock13]

I'm with burn on this. Its kinda hard to believe you would be able to hold your mass naturally, considering you must be a fair amount over your natural genetic limit.


My favorite PCT is always the same...

Clomid
Post cycle
Unleashed
Formastanozol
DAA
(Usually I will run whatever HCGenerate I have left from running it on cycle as well)

 

[C-Lo34]

Oh for sure. cruising is what I always do now, and it's no for sure thing ill be coming off ever. My goal is to go pro, but like I said after contest season next year I will realign my goals and go from there.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I'm cruising now. Everything is smooth. Just checking post ideas if I decide to go off next season after contests. That's not for sure, all depends on the contest season

Well if you did decide to go off for a while then you will need a double length kitchen sink PCT.

*Pre PCT HCG ofcourse

*Few shots of HMG

*HCgenerate throughout pct to continue HCG effects without suppression

*Unleashed to increase free T

*Good natty test booster

*DAA

*maybe a little clomid if you like

*very mild AI

*Ipamorelin/Mod GRF 1-29 or something similar to increase GH twice daily to help maintain as much mass as possible.

 

[wootoom]

Hcgenerate
Unleashed
HCG

 

[C-Lo34]

Well if you did decide to go off for a while then you will need a double length kitchen sink PCT.

*Pre PCT HCG ofcourse

*Few shots of HMG

*HCgenerate throughout pct to continue HCG effects without suppression

*Unleashed to increase free T

*Good natty test booster

*DAA

*maybe a little clomid if you like

*very mild AI

*Ipamorelin/Mod GRF 1-29 or something similar to increase GH twice daily to help maintain as much mass as possible.

Thanks Brotha very nice! My doubts that I will ever come off! But good info regardless to have filed away.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Thanks Brotha very nice! My doubts that I will ever come off! But good info regardless to have filed away.

Actual HGH would ofcourse do the trick too. If you did take a break, after this type of 12 week or so PCT it would be a good time in the interest of major re-adding of muscle or preserving of muscle to try if you were so inclined....one of those "protocols" we were discussing a while back. This is another time when people make use of them. But if you re-asses after the coming season and decide to take a break then it would likely be in the interest of cleaning up for a time i assume so you would likely not run it then. Just food for thought.

 

[C-Lo34]

Actual HGH would ofcourse do the trick too. If you did take a break, after this type of 12 week or so PCT it would be a good time in the interest of major re-adding of muscle or preserving of muscle to try if you were so inclined....one of those "protocols" we were discussing a while back. This is another time when people make use of them. But if you re-asses after the coming season and decide to take a break then it would likely be in the interest of cleaning up for a time i assume so you would likely not run it then. Just food for thought.

My thoughts exactly! I'm ready to compete, all this "off season" gives u too much time to think.

 

[AG-Guys]

My favorite PCT is Aromasin and Clomid, add some natural test boosters and you're set.

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

I prefer just nolva. Clomid turns me into a little b!tch, lol. The nolva from chemicalneed is top notch

 

[infraredline]

I have tried many different ways of PCT as I've grown. I wanted to see what u guys thought on post cycle goodies. Especially for my test e, NPP, possibly tren ace cycle in January. Oh and a nice kick with dbol or Tbol at the beginning. On hand all the time caber, Letro, aromasin, Nolva, a dex.

Torem
Aromasin in pct (Adex on cycle)
Daa
Post cycle/unleashed
(Clomid only if using tren)

 

[Nelson Montana]

will get a lot of hate for this, but fav is clo and nol

Clomid-Clomiphene Citrate - iSteroids.com
Nolvadex-Tamoxifen Citrate - iSteroids.com

The problem is, even if they work, they stop working as soon as you stopped -- then you need PCT!!!

 

[callmejay]

The problem is, even if they work, they stop working as soon as you stopped -- then you need PCT!!!

But your body is producing test on its own after that...? I'm confused

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[Nelson Montana]

But your body is producing test on its own after that...? I'm confused

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Nope. Clomid and Nolva do nothing to raise the bodies ability to raise test. If that were the case, we'd all do a course of CLomid and walk around with higher test levels! No, it doesn;t work that way.

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[RADAR]

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[callmejay]

I don't know anyone who thinks a pill will permanently raise your testosterone for life...

Clomid is extremely effective at raising testosterone in hypgonadal men. Clomid significantly raises test, LH, FSH. I am happy to post studies but I'm sure you've seen them all, which is why I'm surprised there is even this debate tbh.

It is important to raise those levels quickly while in PCT and your body is regaining it's natural ability to produce testosterone. The point is getting your test levels up quickly in a non-suppressive way so you can hold on to as much of your gains as possible while your body is getting back to baseline.

Based on every study I've ever seen and bloodwork, clomid increases test levels faster and better than any natural test booster. 25mg is a proven dose for clomid across countless studies of hypogonadal men. It is a good drug for PCT and anyone not using it or another SERM like torem in PCT after a mild-heavy cycle is doing themselves a disservice, in my opinion.

Natural test boosters and libido-boosting/feel-good herbs are great and all during PCT. It absolutely helps to keep libido and energy up while in PCT. And they do increase testosterone for some people (clomid doesn't work for everyone either). But for the money, I'm choosing clomid every time. Sure I could spend $155 on phytoserms to maybe raise my levels the claimed 347%, but I could get that same effect for 1/10 of the cost using clomid for 4-6 weeks.

Clomid and natural test boosters both stop working after you stop taking them...so i'm not sure what you mean by "then you start PCT". Are you saying clomid is suppressive?

My pct consists of a combination of clomid, forma or aromasin, and maybe a test/libido booster.

Look at this graph..more than doubled LH, FSH in only 4 weeks. You don't think that more LH is going to bring you back to baseline faster? that's the whole point of an HCG blast and using HCG on cycle.

http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163/F1.medium.gif

http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163.long for the full study. That is @ 50mg of clomid btw, but there are tons of studies on only 25mg which yield similar results.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I don't know anyone who thinks a pill will permanently raise your testosterone for life...

Clomid is extremely effective at raising testosterone in hypgonadal men. Clomid significantly raises test, LH, FSH. I am happy to post studies but I'm sure you've seen them all, which is why I'm surprised there is even this debate tbh.

It is important to raise those levels quickly while in PCT and your body is regaining it's natural ability to produce testosterone. The point is getting your test levels up quickly in a non-suppressive way so you can hold on to as much of your gains as possible while your body is getting back to baseline.

Based on every study I've ever seen and bloodwork, clomid increases test levels faster and better than any natural test booster. 25mg is a proven dose for clomid across countless studies of hypogonadal men. It is a good drug for PCT and anyone not using it or another SERM like torem in PCT after a mild-heavy cycle is doing themselves a disservice, in my opinion.

Natural test boosters and libido-boosting/feel-good herbs are great and all during PCT. It absolutely helps to keep libido and energy up while in PCT. And they do increase testosterone for some people (clomid doesn't work for everyone either). But for the money, I'm choosing clomid every time. Sure I could spend $155 on phytoserms to maybe raise my levels the claimed 347%, but I could get that same effect for 1/10 of the cost using clomid for 4-6 weeks.

Clomid and natural test boosters both stop working after you stop taking them...so i'm not sure what you mean by "then you start PCT". Are you saying clomid is suppressive?

My pct consists of a combination of clomid, forma or aromasin, and maybe a test/libido booster.

Look at this graph..more than doubled LH, FSH in only 4 weeks. You don't think that more LH is going to bring you back to baseline faster? that's the whole point of an HCG blast and using HCG on cycle.

http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163/F1.medium.gif

Recovery of persistent hypogonadism by clomiphene in males with prolactinomas under dopamine agonist treatment for the full study. That is @ 50mg of clomid btw, but there are tons of studies on only 25mg which yield similar results.

Testosterone raises test too. The idea is to get your body doing it, not to have a drug do it.

 

[noodles1010]

Nope. Clomid and Nolva do nothing to raise the bodies ability to raise test. If that were the case, we'd all do a course of CLomid and walk around with higher test levels! No, it doesn;t work that way.

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[nickb86]

unleashed/postcycle
clomid 25/25/25/25
forma stanzol
daa
osta sarms 12.5mg/day

this works for almost all of what i do and cycle...