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Equipoise and Sideeffects

jjaas

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I have had some bad experiences with Deca Durabolin and anxiety. My idea is a cycle w Equipoise 400 per week for 12 and...test prop eod? still putting it together but I want to know the yeas and neas for EQ? why, specifically?
 
avoid E.Q if you are predisposed to anxiety

it got pretty bad with me while i was taking E.Q

run prim.o instead

and get some derma to use throughout the cycle
 
swole said:
avoid E.Q if you are predisposed to anxiety

it got pretty bad with me while i was taking E.Q

run prim.o instead

and get some derma to use throughout the cycle
would I run the same amount of primo? 400 EW
 
lexi365 said:
would I run the same amount of Primobolan - methenolone - ? 400 EW

i'm doing 600mg EW for 12 weeks

if you can afford 600mg EW, go for it. i'll let the more experienced bors chime in...although i think 600mg is ideal
 
swole said:
avoid E.Q if you are predisposed to anxiety

it got pretty bad with me while i was taking E.Q

run prim.o instead

and get some derma to use throughout the cycle
Great advice. Comes from experence.
 
i might make the switch to primo and dermacrine, i like what i read about it. thanks for you help
 
Increased appetite and lean tissue gains. Never saw anxiety and i get it a little when i come off.
 
swole said:
avoid E.Q if you are predisposed to anxiety

it got pretty bad with me while i was taking E.Q

run prim.o instead

and get some derma to use throughout the cycle


what doses gace you anxiety? ive found if you stay around 400mg wk positive gains are the only side.
 
I got alittle at 600mg but it past in a week or 2 .

Brad.
 
ALIN said:
what doses gace you anxiety? ive found if you stay around 400mg wk positive gains are the only side.

i've done 600 and 400, each for a substantial amount of time

anxiety sucked on both

avoid it. go preemo and test or preemo and derma. i swear on my life you will feel like a warrior champion of universe of all everything in the world.
 
EQ gave me horrible anxiety (borderline panic attacks) but only when I smoked pot. When I dropped the EQ or dropped the pot everything was fine. Just my two cents.
 
EQ shouldnt be a problem unless you front load and then run 800 mgs a week. 600-400mgs a week is perfect.
 
I never had any sides with eq....except for silent ones...such as increased RBC's and hemoglobin and hematocrit which could eventually lead to stroke, heart attack, CAD, pulmonary emboli.
 
I never had any sides with eq....except for silent ones...such as increased RBC's and hemoglobin and hematocrit which could eventually lead to stroke, heart attack, CAD, pulmonary emboli.


well when you put it like that. LOL
 
I've run up to 1200mg/week of EQ. I could hardly breathe walking up the stairs - does that count as a side effect?
 
Anybody got bad acne from it? I ran QV eq at 400mg per week and I broke out really bad. I have never had any issue with acne before. I ran test,tren,deca,dbol,anavar and winstrol without acne ever? Anybody got it just from eq? BTW didn't mean to steel your original question.
 
There is a bell shaped curve for doseages of ALL drugs. Once you hit the top you are at best bang for back (ie. best desired effect with least side effects) Anything in excess of the apex of the drugs curve will result in more side effects. This is why all drugs are dosed differently.
 
i forgot abt this thread. well, i noticed some anxiety but its about the same w me as deca, although ive never heard anyone state that deca gives them anxiety. both give it to me, strange. dividing the dose helps alot but the hunger pangs was what really bothered me. I had this happen before, so i was ready but still, headaches from being hungry all the time. I polished off a triple whopper, a double whopper, large fries, and a large coke, stood up and still felt hungry. EQ=stupid hungry
 
Bro, overall, I think Equipose has less sides than Decca tbh and is a little more potent (Boldenone)

It's great for vascularity, strength, and it raises appetite, which is desireable when bulking.

I think it works great with test, and it is NOT progestagenic.
 
It does not effect everyone the same. I get no anxiety on it @ 400-600mg PW. Also I have never found it to be an appetite stimulant. The longer you are on it the better it gets. Mainly vascularity for me.
 
It does not effect everyone the same. I get no anxiety on it @ 400-600mg PW. Also I have never found it to be an appetite stimulant. The longer you are on it the better it gets. Mainly vascularity for me.

When I was on 400mgs ew, I eat like a 300lb man.
 
Produces more collegen synthesis and better for joints then the almight deca. I do think deca is better for mass, but I rely more on test for mass and like the eq better for protecting my joints.
 
I had my first real bout with Anxiety today, and it sucked pretty bad (really inoppertune timing). I have sweats like a mofo all day and all night but I kind of like it. My hunger has gone from semi-noticable difference to extreme cranky and almost sick feeling if I don't eat. Oh yeah, I'm strong, I'm vascular I'm lean and did I mention sweaty?
 
I've done a lot of EQ over the years. Several times at 300mg/week, several at 400, once at 500, and once at 600 per week. The last time was 600mg/week for 16 weeks along with 375mg/week of cyp.

Sides:

1. ANXIETY...definately was a struggle at anything over 300mg/week, and very tought to deal with at 600mg/week. I kept an ativan with me at all times just in case I had a bout that I couldn't control with the power of thought and deep breathing.

2. Increased BP from midpoint to end of cycle...definately due to the increased red blood cell count. Definately take a daily-dose (81mg) coated asprin daily as this will help some. But I think that as one gets well into a long EQ cycle, the only way to keep BP from rising would be some blood-letting. It would be immoral to donate blood while 'on', so I'm thinking about ordering up some med supplies so I can take several tubes of blood out of myself the next time I do EQ...kind of like donating blood but not quite as much volume and without the moral dilemma.

I choose to continue to use EQ in spite of these two side effects, because for me the benefits outweight the risks. Primary concern is hair loss: primo isn't good in that regard, and I can't take deca because I use propecia. So for the anabolic base of the cycle, EQ is my only other injectable option. I use var in the summer while cutting, and EQ in the winter while bulking.
 
You have no idea how sweaty I have been this cycle. But my EQ is also extremely painful, which is also supposed to be rare. Who knows what the fuck it is.

EQ makes me sweat more too....it stimulates the CNS, so that's perfectly natural. That's the same reason it can bring on anxiety.

The painful part shouldn't be the case...odds are your gear has a high BA content. I've used 400mg/mL EQ that was completely painless.
 
so what results did you get at 300mg? Ill be using with tren and var, the main goal from the EQ id vascularity - did you get vascular at 300mg?
 
DR Sketch, hows your appetite?

my appetite is good, somedays I actually get hunger pains every 2 hours or so.

Increased appetite, muscle, and endurance are the only sides I am getting from EQ.

Also I am sure my RBC is higher as well but have not had this tested.
 
im on week 3 of 400mg/wk equipoise right now. So far no anxiety (knock on wood), no real appetite increase yet but i am definitely noticing a little more veins. Hopefully it will get better in the next few weeks
 
i may have spoken too soon. I think i had my first anxiety experience from EQ tonight. Oh and yes from the first week of EQ i drench my clothes in sweat whether its hot or cold out.
Anyway i bounce at a bar, and all the sudden i just started having anxiety. My stomache felt weird. When i felt the slightest heart palpatation i start thinking "omg test, eq, and dbol are giving me a heart attack" lol. A few minutes later i felt fine and realized how silly that was. Still that was not enjoyable and hopefully does not get worse.
 
at the Bar? Erm

Yes at a bar lol.

By the way being on cycle obviously (with test) is interesting. Its weird, but i feel like people can sense your dominance. Does anyone feel like that? People look at you and talk to you very differently in a good way though. Not to mention you feel like the FUCKING MAN.

Also, im not a dousche bag by any means, but some punk was starting problems last night so i kicked his ass out. He started talking shit to me, and it took everything i had in me to not stomp his ass out. I felt like i coulda lost it at any moment and it woulda been game over for him. I held it in though and im glad i did. Roid rage is definitely a made up phenomenon so assholes can justify their actions, but i cannot deny that cycling anything with test included will increase aggressiveness

I love EQ by the way. Im a BEAST in the gym right now. SOOO much endurance!!:mad:
 
Yes at a bar lol.

By the way being on cycle obviously (with test) is interesting. Its weird, but i feel like people can sense your dominance. Does anyone feel like that? People look at you and talk to you very differently in a good way though. Not to mention you feel like the FUCKING MAN.

Also, im not a dousche bag by any means, but some punk was starting problems last night so i kicked his ass out. He started talking shit to me, and it took everything i had in me to not stomp his ass out. I felt like i coulda lost it at any moment and it woulda been game over for him. I held it in though and im glad i did. Roid rage is definitely a made up phenomenon so assholes can justify their actions, but i cannot deny that cycling anything with test included will increase aggressiveness

I love EQ by the way. Im a BEAST in the gym right now. SOOO much endurance!!:mad:

I know the feeling bro....!
The dominance part I feel it more with EQ/test than other stuff, not sure why. But I also get a bit paranoid at times....def the EQ
 
so what results did you get at 300mg? Ill be using with tren and var, the main goal from the EQ id vascularity - did you get vascular at 300mg?

Got a lot more vascular even at 300mg/week. It seems to volumize my blood very dramatically...which is why I'm going to try drawing some blood out the next time I run it...to minimize the high BP.
 
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