Enathate By Itself

[DSS]

I am thinking about doing my first cycle, so I am doing some research. Someone has suggested enathate by itself for a first cycle. I was wanting to get everyones opinion and experience with enathate (recommended doses, length of cycle, results, etc.) Is this a good first cycle?

Stats: 30 yrs old, 6'3", 250lbs, bf:?? high teens, Diet: 7/10(200-250g prot.ED), training: 5 days/wk

 

[hehateme000]

yea its a perfect first cycle

since its one compound, you know exactly what its doing to you both positively and negatively.

WHat are ur stats? Age/HEight/Weight/BF%/Diet/years training

 

[GUARDIAN]

250mgs ew for 10 weeks

 

[OMEGA]

400 mgs a week
aromasin 10 mgs 3 times a week

PCT=

Fav PCT here is
HCG 2000 ius E4D for 3 Doses
Aromasin ( full dose ED) With HCG and later CLOMID
Clomid 50 mgs ED after HCG for 3 weeks

Another Method:

3 shots 500iu HCG for one week
PP Test recovery stack
Unleashed
Post Cycle
Aromasin 10mgs EOD
Amplify02 workout days, LIPOFLAME cardio and Legs days

 

[needtogetaas]

250mgs ew for 10 weeks

keep ai's on hand. 2 weeks after cycle start pct with dermacrin sustain 5 pumps ed for 4 week. Also you can add postcycle and or unleashed and or 25mg clomid ed. Its all up to you pm me to talk any time.

 

[TexasTurkey1001]

I am thinking about doing my first cycle, so I am doing some research. Someone has suggested enathate by itself for a first cycle. I was wanting to get everyones opinion and experience with enathate (recommended doses, length of cycle, results, etc.) Is this a good first cycle?

Stats: 30 yrs old, 6'3", 250lbs, bf:?? high teens, Diet: 7/10(200-250g prot.ED), training: 5 days/wk

Enathate only is a GREAT first cycle. Anywhere from 250 - 500 mg per week for 10 weeks. You will not be disappointed. Have PCT in hand before you start and AI in case you need it.



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[peligroso]

its better than cypionate? for first cycle? also what is better aromasin or arimidex?

 

[eddymerckx]

its better than cypionate? for first cycle? also what is better aromasin or arimidex?

cyp/enth almost identical; aromasin is better than armidex--my own opinion

and i am stuck between omega at 400 and guardian at 250. I think my advice is 250 every 4-5 days (enth, every 5-6 for cyp)

and yes, great first cycle--heck, great 10th cycle.

 

[billdance]

Most hold a little more water on Cyp... I know I do...so I prefer enan... was my first run...

 

[the elite addict]

400 mg a week. AI on hand. clomid for pct.

 

[DBBT]

200-250mg per week of Cypionate or Enanthate.

 

[the elite addict]

200-250mg per week of Cypionate or Enanthate.

I strongly disagree
200 a week? the body produces nearly that much naturally. Why shut down your natty test for only .5-1 x more test than you already produce naturally. Dude. Up it to atleast 300.

 

[dabuffguy]

I strongly disagree
200 a week? the body produces nearly that much naturally. Why shut down your natty test for only .5-1 x more test than you already produce naturally. Dude. Up it to atleast 300.

de[ends on your age. A very high naural test levl would be = to about 120mg weekly of test.

250mg is twice that, and can provide good gains. But, I'm with you on this one. I do 250 every 4 days or 500 every 8 days/1week or whatever.

 

[the elite addict]

de[ends on your age. A very high naural test levl would be = to about 120mg weekly of test.

250mg is twice that, and can provide good gains. But, I'm with you on this one. I do 250 every 4 days or 500 every 8 days/1week or whatever.

right so if hes producing 120 mg a week why shut that down for an extra 80 mg? Not worth it in my opinon. I did 500mg for my first cycle and netted 12 solid pounds of muscle. 18 including the water/fat. Run atleast 350mg

 

[DBBT]

I strongly disagree
200 a week? the body produces nearly that much naturally. Why shut down your natty test for only .5-1 x more test than you already produce naturally. Dude. Up it to atleast 300.

I didn't post on this thread to argue with anyone. I posted what I thought because that's what I'd tell anyone in the world who asked me. And you can't convince me otherwise, especially for a first cycle, dude.

 

[the elite addict]

I didn't post on this thread to argue with anyone. I posted what I thought because that's what I'd tell anyone in the world who asked me. And you can't convince me otherwise, especially for a first cycle, dude.

I wasn't attempting to argue with you. I simply disagre with your advice and wanted to make a point of it to the person asking. Sorry if I came off wrong bro.

 

[bbtnik]

its better than cypionate? for first cycle? also what is better aromasin or arimidex?

Yeah it's better!! Being blunt here but yeah!! And if this is your first time, considering everybody is different or responds differently, you might not necessarily need an anit-estrogen. I've read a specific case where a guy was taking an anti-estrogen and he wasn't getting the results that you would expect and he took out that part of the equation and he started making solid gains!! We are similiar in a lot of ways but this is proof that we are different in a lot of ways!! You just have to see how you respond to it!!

 

[dabuffguy]

I didn't post on this thread to argue with anyone. I posted what I thought because that's what I'd tell anyone in the world who asked me. And you can't convince me otherwise, especially for a first cycle, dude.

Bro, your suggestion was a good one. taking a bit more wouldn't be a bad thing thogh. No one was trying to prod you with a stick.

 

[dabuffguy]

Yeah it's better!! Being blunt here but yeah!! And if this is your first time, considering everybody is different or responds differently, you might not necessarily need an anit-estrogen. I've read a specific case where a guy was taking an anti-estrogen and he wasn't getting the results that you would expect and he took out that part of the equation and he started making solid gains!! We are similiar in a lot of ways but this is proof that we are different in a lot of ways!! You just have to see how you respond to it!!

Cyp or enth, it doesnt matter one bit.

 

[the elite addict]

Bro, your suggestion was a good one. taking a bit more wouldn't be a bad thing thogh. No one was trying to prod you with a stick.

 

[NomDeGuerre]

Doing more or less the same thing. Going for Test E 500mg EW pinning twice a week at mon/thurs(Week 1-8). Then I switch to Test Prop for Week 9-10 so that I can come off and start PCT 3 days after last shot of Prop. AI as needed, probably Adex since it is cheaper and more available here. Good luck!

 

[sugashane]

300 mgs a week for 10-12 weeks, use either OMEGA's or Needto's PCT and you'll be doing great.

 

[jnef]

i drop ur body fat before touching aas

 

[cobracock1979]

aromasin - great for controlling water as well

 

[GUARDIAN]

I strongly disagree
200 a week? the body produces nearly that much naturally. Why shut down your natty test for only .5-1 x more test than you already produce naturally. Dude. Up it to atleast 300.

no offense bro but if u cant grow off of 200-250mg ew of test for a first cycle than u got issues with your diet and training.

BTW - HRT doses prescribed by doctors are not as high as 200-250mg ew. that should tell u something.

 

[DSS]

Thank you guys for all of the info, I really appreciate it....keep it coming.

What are some of the results that you have experienced?

 

[the elite addict]

no offense bro but if u cant grow off of 200-250mg ew of test for a first cycle than u got issues with your diet and training.

BTW - HRT doses prescribed by doctors are not as high as 200-250mg ew. that should tell u something.

We weren't talking about me though...

 

[Diesel Dick]

Ill be gearing up with enathate for my first cycle. . . How about nolva for pct?

 

[jnef]

Ill be gearing up with enathate for my first cycle. . . How about nolva for pct?

^^^ Read the sticky The new Post Cycle Therapy for 2008 at the steroids discussion forum

 

[Beachboy6294]

no offense bro but if u cant grow off of 200-250mg ew of test for a first cycle than u got issues with your diet and training.

BTW - HRT doses prescribed by doctors are not as high as 200-250mg ew. that should tell u something.

I did 250mg on my first cycle and I grew big time!