EF a lot more honest without douchebag RoidStore.com BuySteroids.com advertisers!

[Svengali]

Holyscamsite! Good work George for dropping them!!!
http://robertsblog.com/2008/06/13/r...products-ingredients-and-manufacturing-costs/

June 17, 2008
A message from Brian Clapp to you, my blog reader…
Filed under: Other — Anthony Roberts @ 6:27 am

Mr. Brian clapp texted me yesterday. Well, actually he texted me about a dozen times. It would appear that he is very upset that people now know what's in his products, and that the information would now be available all over the internet… forever. Kind of interesting, isn't it? Not wanting people to know exactly what goes into your products…

Hell…everytime one of my products comes out, I brag all over the internet about whats in them. In fact, I've even told people (who later came out and repeated that information) exactly what my manufacturing costs were. I want people to know that I'm not marking things up excessively, and I want them to know what I'm selling them. That's how I am. It's not how Brian is, I guess…because yesterday, a full 3 days after this post went up, Brian had his lawyers threaten legal action and threaten me with a Temporary Restraining Order.

I guess he doesn't want anyone to know what is in his products…fair enough. I took down the ingredient amounts and his manufacturing costs, but I'll be leaving the rest up forever…which doesn't matter, really. People aren't going to buy a bottle of caffeine or CLA for $70+. Everyone who is buying a product deserves to know what's in it. Hey, my products work well, and they've been copied by more than one company (even MuscleTech has added an ingredient into their “Anabolic Halo” product that I originally brought to the market). Do you think anyone is going to be copying RoidStore or BuySteroids products? Hardly. There isn't a single original ingredient or especially innovative formula in any of them. In my estimation, the only reason they sell is because people think they're something that they aren't (Steroids). But this deception is normal for Brian - he actually has his OWN COMPANY NAMES banned from the things that you're allowed to talk about ON HIS OWN SITE! Obviously he doesn't want people discussing what's actually in them!

And I'm not alone in this thought. If you check out my friend Doug's board, (Steroid-Rx.com), you'll see that many people share this thought with me…in fact, many people on that site are reporting Brian's trade practices to the FTC and the Better Business Bureau…and still others have complained to Yahoo, where he is an advertiser (note: all of the preceeding links are links to the complaint forms you'd need to fill out if you wished to register a complaint against him)..I'm no lawyer, but I'm reasonably sure that you can't say that your site sells steroids if it doesn't (This is the site description for both BuySteroids and RoidStore: Buy Anabolic Steroids online at The Roid Store [or Buy Steroids]. We ship discreetly, internationally, no prescription required, secure checkout, trusted vendor.)

So what was Brian's message to you yesterday? He wanted you to know that he made a certain amount of money ($45k) this weekend just by lying by the pool. A quick phonecall to an insider (oops!) revealed that he didn't even come close to making that much money from BuySteroids and RoidStore added up. Nowhere close.

So, that was his bullshit message to you, my readers. He also wanted you to know that he's filing some kind of lawsuit against me, civil and criminal (he seems to think I “stole” his little secrets…when actually I didn't). Then he started sending some really crazy texts, about his father's penis, which I won't get into - but they were very creepy.


June 13, 2008
RoidStore & Buysteroids.com products (Ingredients and manufacturing costs)
Filed under: Other - Anthony Roberts @ 10:12 pm

Ever google RoidStore? If you haven't, go check it out, because here's what the site description says:

"Buy Anabolic Steroids online at The Roid Store. We ship discreetly, internationally, no prescription required, secure checkout, trusted vendor."

Weird, right? Because we all know that Brian Clapp, the owner would never want to be deceptive, and trick people into buying vitamins and herbs, if they thought they were getting steroids, right? But then why is his site description (which he put there himself) saying that you can buy steroids at Roidstore (and BuySteroids.com)? Weird, right?

Well, I know Brian wouldn't want to deceive anybody. So I'm gonna help him out, alright? I mean...

I thought I'd help Brian Clapp sell some more products from Buysteroids.com and RoidStore.com. I noticed that he doesn't list any ingredients for his products on any of his websites (that's right, not for Roidstore or Buysteroids.com)- and I also noticed that there's really no actual amounts listed on any of the bottles - it just says "Proprietary Blend". That won't be a problem for me, since I have all of that information right here, and I'm sure he'd want me to share it with you.

Because we know that he's not trying to fool anyone, right? He's an honest guy, right?

So...

Listed below are all of the RoidStore/Buysteroids products, listing all of their ingredients and amounts + the amount paid by Brian to produce the actual formula vs/ the amount Brian sells them for(not counting stickers/ labels which range from .05880 cents - .093 cents per unit - yes, under ten cents for the label or sticker per bottle).

Members,

I was compelled to remove from this site the parts of this discussion thread contasining the RoidStore ingredients and cost per bottle.

Steroid.com/RoidStore and owner Brian Clapp intend to sue EliteFitness.com again in order to censor your postings where you shared with our community the ingredients in the RoidStore supplements and RoidStore's cost per bottle.

I will post more details of the restraining order that Steroid.com/RoidStore obtained this morning and I will elaborate more on the situation shortly. However, you should know that there is nothing more upsetting to me than having Brian Clapp and his Steroid.com and RoidStore sites censoring your free speech on the forums. And I apologize for having to edit this post.

You are encouraged to post here all links to the RoidStore ingredients and costs that appear on other sites that Brian Clapp has not been able to censor yet. And here is a link to the discussion thread about Brian Clapp and Steroid.com's censoring of your postings.

More to come.

George Spellwin

 

[sugashane]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

He is a total piece, but if you look in the EF store, I think they still have to sell a book or two he helped write. Don't know for how long though.

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

lol I am talking about the roidstore. Love him or hate him, AR comes up with some god shizzle.

 

[sugashane]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

lol I am talking about the roidstore. Love him or hate him, AR comes up with some god shizzle.

Oh shit, lol
Meh. I'd rather cave his nads in with my foot than give him any more money than he already gets by buying his book. I'm happy with Nelson's books though.

 

[timtim]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

lol I am talking about the roidstore. Love him or hate him, AR comes up with some god shizzle.

so roidstore sucks but AR is ok?

that guy is a scammer and a liar. nothing good about what he comes up with.

 

[*The_West*]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

so roidstore sucks but AR is ok?

that guy is a scammer and a liar. nothing good about what he comes up with.

he's not saying AR is ok. the guy has contributed some good stuff to various aas literature. its just a shame he decided to go the "scammer" route, thus making a total penis out of himself

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I am a bit confused. Is this guy a scammer or is he just over pricing his products?

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

LOL I just thought the roidstore thing was funny. I've enjoyed AR's writings. But, I dont like the fights he has picked with some people, including George Spellwin. You know, it sucks when two of your friends are fighting. Thats how I feel here. I am OK with him blasting the roidstore this way.

 

[*The_West*]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I am a bit confused. Is this guy a scammer or is he just over pricing his products?

100% scam- he names his product to sound like the 'street' names of steroids- "deca 200" "tren 75" to prey on the uneducated bb's when in actual fact they will do no more than what a multi vitamin and a cup of coffee would do for you

 

[sman275]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

100% scam- he names his product to sound like the 'street' names of steroids- "deca 200" "tren 75" to prey on the uneducated bb's when in actual fact they will do no more than what a multi vitamin and a cup of coffee would do for you

This is going on every where. You can not enter a suppl. store without
seeing products like "Anavar" or "DBol". It's just marketing. From
Just Add Muscle......"Phenterdrene" Sounds alot like the script
Phentermine (sp.)? used in weight loss.

I'm sorry that his knowledge is no longer @ EF.

And the link that was posted came from his new forum. Every one has a
right to charge what ever they want for their products. In business, you
have to make a profit.

 

[chaos13]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

great find on the website

 

[cobracock1979]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

Good work for dropping him, but why take the pr*ck mon in the first place without testing the goods?

 

[nickster#1]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

so roidstore sucks but AR is ok?

that guy is a scammer and a liar. nothing good about what he comes up with.

OH YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been waiting for this day to come along. I was a member of the board AR for a long time, and then I decided to check out the ROIDSTORE. I didnt even bother looking into the store for the first four years as a member as I had no need to. When I seen the board turning into a playground for parrots and people being allowed to give advice to people who were too young to even be on the board, I am talking 16 and 17 YO kids in school who come on and say " HI everyone, my name is blah and my stats are, !&yo, 165LBs, been lfting weights all my life and have some test, deca and dbol and want to do a steroid cycle".
People would then come on the thread by the 10s and 20s and 30s and say, well youir a little young, but hey, here is how to do it and good luck bro.
And all the unchecked disrespect and bad advice. There is only one forum on that board that is moderated properly, and the moderater I still respect. As for the rest of the board???????????????
I started to check out the site, steroid.com, and all the videos they had with AR and BC, and then their little store that they have been makeing God knows how much $ for who knows how long from unsuspecting newbs and uneducated people by going against the very principals that AR and BC preached about watching out for scammers and acting like they treat their members so good.
Call it advertising, call it what you want. It is outright SCAMMER bullshiznit in the community of AAS users and the like.
I questioned the validity of their products to some of the mods and BC himself via PM, asking what were the ingredients and didnt get any responses.I then gave some advice to a member about not getting supps from a certain website, not the roidstore front, but another site because of poor customer service and the products were not very effective. I was then warned that I was sourceing. WTF?? I found out later that the site was a sponsor of AR. So I left it alone, and started a thread asking everyone what they thought about the products sold in the roid store, and then all of a sudden, people come out of the woodwork and say they spent xxx amount of money and when they got the crap they bought, they felt cheated. But they didnt say anything for fear of being banned. I bumped the thread a few times, and next thing I know, I am banned.

I loved the forum, was a great place to ask advice, and get questions answered, but as of late has become a breeding ground for parrots who get a few post under their belt, and start repeating things they read from another thread or post just to sound like they know what they are talking about.
It was really refreshing when I joined this board, and seen that it was moderated by people who gives a shiznit about the members, being careful to make sure that we are not telling a teenager how to cycle, or allowing disrespect to go unchecked.
This board is supported by paying for a membership, and also the e-books that are very informative, and you know exactly what yopu are getting when you pay your $$. And the administrater, and I am not sucking up to all those that may think so, but to be able to communicate with the administrater, and get a quick response, and also the mods, and the level of respect here is the way it should be.
I am glad to be a part of this community and also glad that this is out in the open. I hope I am not out of line, and if I am, please let me know and I will edit whatever needs to be edited.

 

[DBBT]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

"look at me I have 700 dollars in my hand! Can you see each bill?"

"and here i am playing blackjack at the $2 tables with my 700. Can you tell I'm on Trenn and Winney-Vii in this pic? lets just say i had to sell some more dekkca to make up for that night."

 

[SouthernLord]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

"look at me I have 700 dollars in my hand! Can you see each bill?"

"and here i am playing blackjack at the $2 tables with my 700. Can you tell I'm on Trenn and Winney-Vii in this pic? lets just say i had to sell some more dekkca to make up for that night."

lol. Is that AR?

 

[sparetire]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

This is going on every where. You can not enter a suppl. store without
seeing products like "Anavar" or "DBol". It's just marketing. From
Just Add Muscle......"Phenterdrene" Sounds alot like the script
Phentermine (sp.)? used in weight loss.

I'm sorry that his knowledge is no longer @ EF.

And the link that was posted came from his new forum. Every one has a
right to charge what ever they want for their products. In business, you
have to make a profit.

I don't understand this sort of thinking that goes on here at EF. This is a steroid board, NOT a prohormone slash fake suppliment board. I've been seeing this "Juse Add Muscle" site pop up in conversations as though they are legit..After looking at their www, it's nothing more than the other site that sells "dekkabolone" etc. type products. I have always thought of EF as being a top-notch site, but if they continue to go down this road and pay these types of sponsors, then it's going to ruin their credibility even more. I come here almost everyday looking around for knowledge, NOT fake suppliment info..

 

[DBBT]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

lol. Is that AR?

no that's the clap.

AR is behind the camera

 

[sman275]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I don't understand this sort of thinking that goes on here at EF. This is a steroid board, NOT a prohormone slash fake suppliment board. I've been seeing this "Juse Add Muscle" site pop up in conversations as though they are legit..After looking at their www, it's nothing more than the other site that sells "dekkabolone" etc. type products. I have always thought of EF as being a top-notch site, but if they continue to go down this road and pay these types of sponsors, then it's going to ruin their credibility even more. I come here almost everyday looking around for knowledge, NOT fake suppliment info..

I can not speak for EF. BUT, the board probably needs adver. to stay in business. I am sure that the banner sponsors pay EF.

 

[nickster#1]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I don't understand this sort of thinking that goes on here at EF. This is a steroid board, NOT a prohormone slash fake suppliment board. I've been seeing this "Juse Add Muscle" site pop up in conversations as though they are legit..After looking at their www, it's nothing more than the other site that sells "dekkabolone" etc. type products. I have always thought of EF as being a top-notch site, but if they continue to go down this road and pay these types of sponsors, then it's going to ruin their credibility even more. I come here almost everyday looking around for knowledge, NOT fake suppliment info..

The sponsors of this board at least will post all the ingredients in their site for you to see exactly what you are getting. Every board has to have funding, and EF uses sponsors that dont hide what is in their products, and give a complete list of what is each product. There may be a little hype and naming of products to catch your eye, but that is good advertiseing, and no false claims like on another board. Credibility is solid here bro. No hidden agendas or false claims. WHat you see is what you get.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I don't understand this sort of thinking that goes on here at EF. This is a steroid board, NOT a prohormone slash fake suppliment board. I've been seeing this "Juse Add Muscle" site pop up in conversations as though they are legit..After looking at their www, it's nothing more than the other site that sells "dekkabolone" etc. type products. I have always thought of EF as being a top-notch site, but if they continue to go down this road and pay these types of sponsors, then it's going to ruin their credibility even more. I come here almost everyday looking around for knowledge, NOT fake suppliment info..

The FDA might disagree with you about the effectiveness of the products sold at "Just Add Muscle" . . . Rumor has it some of the supplements might become classified along the same lines as Steroids and banned from being sold by month's end...
Also, JAM will list their ingredients and welcome a civil debate about the ingredients. The names is just flashy marketing to get your attention. In no way do they try to "fool" you into thinking you are buying illegal drugs.
Everybody from Primordial Performance, AGX Sports and Proteabody will talk to you about their ingredients, even list them on their sites AND welcome any questions asked about their products on the forums.

 

[timtim]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I don't understand this sort of thinking that goes on here at EF. This is a steroid board, NOT a prohormone slash fake suppliment board. I've been seeing this "Juse Add Muscle" site pop up in conversations as though they are legit..After looking at their www, it's nothing more than the other site that sells "dekkabolone" etc. type products. I have always thought of EF as being a top-notch site, but if they continue to go down this road and pay these types of sponsors, then it's going to ruin their credibility even more. I come here almost everyday looking around for knowledge, NOT fake suppliment info..

i agree. seeing these posts about "i got this for you" etc. what is that about? too much product promotion can be bad when its forced down your throat.

 

[MercDD]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

Do not post another link to that board here again.

 

[*The_West*]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

man i would like to spend 2 minutes in a room with anthony roberts...yes i am being an e-heman, i would beat the shit out of him

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

The FDA might disagree with you about the effectiveness of the products sold at "Just Add Muscle" . . In no way do they try to "fool" you into thinking you are buying illegal drugs.
Everybody from Primordial Performance, AGX Sports and Proteabody will talk to you about their ingredients, even list them on their sites AND welcome any questions asked about their products on the forums.

I agree BRR! You can have a civil debate about the efficacy of Prohormone use. Its entirely different to sell a product as though they were legitimate pharmaceutical grade steroids.

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

man i would like to spend 2 minutes in a room with anthony roberts...yes i am being an e-heman, i would beat the shit out of him

LOL I think that Brian Clapp may have had a bad influence on AR until he snapped out of it. I think that AR may have overlooked the bad of the roidstore because of what he perceived as a greater good to our community by making the vids and presenting the issues.

Like I said earlier, I hate seeing friends and family fighting. That is exactly what I felt like when Anafit and EF split. Also, Anafit's beefs with AR were pretty public.. I just hate that shit.

In the words of the great Rodney King, "Can't we all get along??"

 

[Big_BK]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

Yeah well AR caught wind of me posting this on another board and is spreading his propaganda further.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2791597/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2792961

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

He wrote a good peace this time. He has written other good things to.

 

[sparetire]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

Hey, don't get me wrong. It seems to me, most of the time I'm in the minority when it comes to prohormones and the like compounds. Sure, they don't touch 1/10 of what pure test or some other anabolic steroid does, but I do believe, from personal use, that they do work to some extent. I'm not sure how well the newer 'so-called' prohormones, if you call them that, work, but my past experience dictactes to me that they do in fact work. I'm glad JAM isn't hiding the ingredients, and honestly, I don't know too much about the newer steroid alternatives. I just really hate when a company like the one, which is no longer sponsored here, used to promoted their multi-vitamins AS steroids. If I didn't know what I know now about steroids or the experience I have had with steroids, I would have been a victim to that bs. If the new stuff on JAM does work, then hell, all the power to them. I'm all for alternatives because science keeps moving forward, but I must say, nothing works quite like the real stuff. And it's so hard for me to imagine going back to that when i do run out of my current supply. I think I would ultimately head into a hrt clinic before going to that again.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen the latest documentary on steroids, "bigger stronger faster?" It's pro-steroids and uncovers the demonisation that's been going on in the usa and the world over steroids.. I can't wait to get my hands on it , I want to watch it

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

The FDA might disagree with you about the effectiveness of the products sold at "Just Add Muscle" . . . Rumor has it some of the supplements might become classified along the same lines as Steroids and banned from being sold by month's end...
Also, JAM will list their ingredients and welcome a civil debate about the ingredients. The names is just flashy marketing to get your attention. In no way do they try to "fool" you into thinking you are buying illegal drugs.
Everybody from Primordial Performance, AGX Sports and Proteabody will talk to you about their ingredients, even list them on their sites AND welcome any questions asked about their products on the forums.

Yup. All our sponsors have reps in the trenches with the members. 99% of them will not only answer any and all questions you have about there products, they are also on the boards helping members with all kinds of things. Are sponsors are just not nameless faces. They are here with us day in and day out. They are not just sponsors but they are members to. They are part of the family. Not only do they have customers on this board, but they have friends to lots of them. The invest way more then just money into ef. They invest there time,there hearts,and knowledge.

Ef has come a long long way when it comes to picking there sponsors. The members will drive out any bad sponsor on ef now and have done it a few times. The sponsors we have now may not be excepted by every single person,but they are excepted and welcomed by the masses.


We all know now that nothing on this site gets covered up. People are allowed
to speak there mind about the sponsors. Mava,myself and other mods have personally saw to this.


We set out to not only change some of the rules of the aas board, but to change the heart and soul of the board. To change the community of ef. To on that cares for each other,looks out for each other,helps each other,respects one another,spreads knowledge on all aspects of bb and sports.


So yes you may see a sponsor you don't like. Think about that though. That sponsor is doing a lot more for ef then just selling a product and giving money.
Keep these things in mind. Keep in mind the masses enjoy this sponsor and all the help he adds to the site.

Maybe its not just (all about you). Maybe its about us.

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

Ef has come a long long way when it comes to picking there sponsors. The members will drive out any bad sponsor on ef now and have done it a few times. The sponsors we have now may not be excepted by every single person,but they are excepted and welcomed by the masses.

I've been gone for a little while... I thought ross back... What happened with that?

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I'm Just bumping this ahead of Needto's thread...

 

[Svengali]

Re: Elite is a lot more reputable now that they got rid of this douchebag advertiser!

I'm Just bumping this ahead of Needto's thread...

LOL OK. I call BS. I was the first to post this and his gets made the sticky???
lol
Svengali for mod!!!!


Edit: Sorry!!! Clomid is making me a whiny bitch. I lost my bottle of Dermacrine, so I went old school. And now I complain about everything

 

[George Spellwin]

Members,

I was compelled to remove from this site the parts of this discussion thread contasining the RoidStore ingredients and cost per bottle.

Steroid.com/RoidStore and owner Brian Clapp intend to sue EliteFitness.com again in order to censor your postings where you shared with our community the ingredients in the RoidStore supplements and RoidStore's cost per bottle.

I will post more details of the restraining order that Steroid.com/RoidStore obtained this morning and I will elaborate more on the situation shortly. However, you should know that there is nothing more upsetting to me than having Brian Clapp and his Steroid.com and RoidStore sites censoring your free speech on the forums. And I apologize for having to edit this post.

You are encouraged to post here all links to the RoidStore ingredients and costs that appear on other sites that Brian Clapp has not been able to censor yet. And here is a link to the discussion thread about Brian Clapp and Steroid.com's censoring of your postings.

More to come.

 

[1999TL]

good to see that he has heart, and never quits. LOL. We understand George.