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Edward Norton juiced

supersizeme

supersizeme

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for American History X

STEEL BEAST always rips this argument to pieces because Edward wasn't 280lbs ripped to the bone so of course he couldn't have used gear. A good counter point to Beast's argument is take a look at some of the juicers on this board. When I first got on this board I assumed that everyone that juiced was just fucking massive and ripped to the bone. Not the case at all as I have learned over the past year after seeing so many people's pics. Some of the people you wouldn't even guess they touched gear judging from their pics.

Compare Norton Rounders and AHX...both were released in 1998. I don't know which one came first but his physique in each movie is a drastic difference. He is a bag of bones in Rounders and in AHX he's got what looks to be about 30lbs more muscle. You don't just acquire 30lbs of muscle and have the low bodyfat he had in that short of time. Doing it naturally would've required him to put on about 45-50lbs and then cut it all off. You know that mofo stuck himself.
 
Now he is right back down to his scrawny self.

When I first say AHX, I was like Damn, what happened to him. He has always been small.
 
I'm a BIG juicer :p :cool: I think he was on the sauce too.....some of the guys that post pics here wouldn't even be worthy of holding my water bottle...much less compete w/ me bodywise or poundagewise. :D
 
Big Buck said:
I'm a BIG juicer :p :cool: I think he was on the sauce too.....some of the guys that post pics here wouldn't even be worthy of holding my water bottle...much less compete w/ me bodywise or poundagewise. :D
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Sir, could I please hold your water bottle...and change your plates for you...Sir

I would offer you a spot, but alas I am not worthy;)
 
LOL @ Hannibal :D Didn't u allready have your "powerlifting meet"...how did u do?
 
Remember that movie with Nicholas Cage a few years back when he came out wearing a tank top. I think he juiced for that movie. Sometimes actors resort to juicing because the role requires that much muscle incrase.
 
Yeah my practice meet was May 5th did ok...
Didn't have a bench shirt so I'm still unsure as to what kind of carry over I will get

SQ 615
BE 405(raw)
DL 585

Since it was a practice meet I didn't really have to make a certain weight. I was at about 225 when I weighed in (really dehydrated). Right now I am around 240. I plan to enter my first official comp on Dec 1st in Daytona. Plan to compete in the 242's or hopefully 275. Being 6'3" it just makes sense because of the leverage...I never should have been that light. Gotta LOT of work to do;)
 
nice DL!!! Bench shirt should add at least 20lbs on to your bench. Did u use a squat suit and knee straps for your squats? Oh yeah, and the 275s should be an easier weight class than the 242s.
 
supersizem, what the hell you talkin about??

Ed Norton used only the animal stack, EAS supplements, creatine, andro, and used chromium, L-carnitine, vanadyle sulfate, and pyruvate for that physique..we all know that dont we? Those products have worked wonders for everybody on elite right? LOL

:D :D
 
I agree with you SS. Norton took some D-bol or something...their was noway he was natural for the film
 
Yeah I was shocked. The way he came out hardcore with a Hardcore body was not the the Nicholas I knew in his previous movies. Look at him now much thinner. That was a good movie I think im going to rent it again.
 
LORDY!

HE was a hottie beefcake in that movie. And I assure you I could give a rats ass of how he got that way.

MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmm.

*drool*




:D
 
Big Buck said:
nice DL!!! Bench shirt should add at least 20lbs on to your bench. Did u use a squat suit and knee straps for your squats? Oh yeah, and the 275s should be an easier weight class than the 242s.
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Actually the guy thats been helping me suggested 308 or SHW. I don't mind carrying that much weight as long as I don't turn into a fatass...never let that happen again. But that is a long term goal. For Dec. I am shooting for 275

Actually the shirt will add quite a bit. Considering that the type of training I do is geared towards shirt benching...big emphasis on lock out. And yeah the squat was with equipment...it sucks at the moment. By Dec. I hope to be over 700...we'll see. Just gotta do the work. And LOTS of work it is.
 
If u get over 700 on squats,....u got me beat :mad:

U definetly don't wanna compete in the 181s, 198s or even 220s.....they are the TOUGHEST by far. With the bigger weight classes, there aren't as many competitors, and it's a little easier.
 
Big Buck said:
If u get over 700 on squats,....u got me beat :mad:

U definetly don't wanna compete in the 181s, 198s or even 220s.....they are the TOUGHEST by far. With the bigger weight classes, there aren't as many competitors, and it's a little easier.
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Sir, prepare to be beat, sir:smash:

You are definitely right about the weight classes. Besides the lighter classes are full of 5'8" guys that are built like a barrel...no range of motion what so ever. Sometimes having long arms is a hinderance...but it beats being short;)
 
I don't think he juiced at all. I mean, Toby put on 20 hard pounds for Spiderman, do you think he juiced? Hell no. You have to remember that scrawny guys like them never even work out hardly. So put them on a training program and nutrition plan and that rapid gains all beginners go through will take over.

Then again as pointed out, some of the juicers on this board don't look like they work out either. Hell FAt Twitch Faggot has done five cycles and still is not over 190 lbs. What a moron.
 
Yeah no doubt Toby put on some solid weight for Spiderman, and I fully believe he did that naturally. But you didn't see him with a ripped up six pack like Norton had. He looked like most natural bbers after they start eating and hitting the weights for a few months. Toby didn't have all that bad of a build to begin with, he at least had a frame that was well proportioned. Norton was straight up scrawny in Rounders and he went right back to being scrawny after AHX. Natural gains don't appear and disappear that quickly. You do retain some of it even if you never lift another weight again for the rest of your life. I started out almost 3 years ago with a better frame than Norton had. Here 3 years later, I still don't look as good as that mofo does, and I can honestly say that my diet and training have been more hardcore than anything that a celebrity is willing to do. You think a millionaire celebrity like Norton was down for eating 6-7 meals a day of nothing but chicken breasts, healthy fats, and good carbs, all while hitting the gym and pounding out squats and deads till you never want to look at a 45 plate again? I doubt it. And you can't tell me the guy is genetically gifted in the physical genes department. You forget how much time it takes to build a physique without going to the dark side.
 
who cares....I have gained and lost 30 pounds this year - I am clean and have gone form 193 to 224 so it is possible
 
Yeah but your bodyfat increased, homie. Norton did it with no increase in bodyfat. If anything, the dude probably lost bf.

I love debating this.
 
welll I went up 30 pounds with a 3 % bf gain - so that is like 24 piounds of lbm - no drugs no eca no dnp either
 
No doubt that it's totally feasible to gain that much LBM in a year without drugs. I made those gains my first year training as well. However my waistline gained along with it. You can't look in the mirror right now and tell me that you've got a sixer like Norton had in that movie. DRUGS!!!

a simple "ssme you are right, why would anyone doubt you" will suffice here.
 
..my gain was less than 8 weeks.....and I can did up pics to show...of course they are not dated...
 
Alright, homie, you know you my nigga, but you can't tell me you put on 24 pounds of lbm after you've been training as long as you have in two months. When you got down to 198(193?) were you not dehyrdated with no food in your intestines? 24lb LBM gain in two months is far fetched even for a mild roid cycle.
 
I had a pic in my avatar when I was 8% at a weight of 193......that was on/around the last week in Oct b/c I had an audition for One Life TO Live on November 4th.....I weighed 224 tonite and I had the tech do a 7 point caliper test tonite in duplicate and averaged the numbers.....11.3%.

I was slightly dehydrated in the avatar pic and am holding some water now due to adding carbs back into my diet.

The numbers are what they are......

Please note the literature on the anabolic rebound that occurs after usinga certain dieting compound.....
 
no disagreement....

I never lie about stats...they are just numbers
 
Cornholio said:
..my gain was less than 8 weeks.....and I can did up pics to show...of course they are not dated...
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I saw the pics Cornholio.
i hate you :bawling:

I tryed to see your training but coudn't really figure it out.
I know you did (correct me if i am wrong) the crum's diet for cutting. What do you do for bulking? (i will hate you more if you tell me you do the Bfold's diet :( )
Can you post some of your training?
 
supersizeme said:
Alright, homie, you know you my nigga, but you can't tell me you put on 24 pounds of lbm after you've been training as long as you have in two months. When you got down to 198(193?) were you not dehyrdated with no food in your intestines? 24lb LBM gain in two months is far fetched even for a mild roid cycle.
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it is time for you to juice
 
SSME

the movies may both have been released in 98 but that doesnt mean they were shot at/near the same amount of time...

Also, if i were a celebrity, I would bust my ass in a gym to get a movie role worth - millions? potentially.

there could have been more than a few months for him to gain that much
 
Corn, you had also been at the higher weight before. You had the propensity to add weight. As far as I know, Norton had never been more than -3 solar masses before AHX.
 
I think what everyone is overlooking is that it was all makeup. they just painted on his muscles.

if you want to talk real weight gain - Martin Lawrence as that blonde chick in Shallow Hal - THAT is method acting. He was up and down in weight for every scene.

they interviewed him later and he said that he isn't going to do it again because it hurt his heart, but it isn't going to stop him from marrying JLo.
 
was this gain on your old school routine corn? just curious
:)
 
MassiveGunz said:
Bro I didt hink he was that big. I dont get you guys all going apeshit anout him.
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THANK YOU!!!

Hell, the guy has a metabolism of a humming bird. If you go back in Entertainment Weekly to when the movie was released he talked about working out for the first time. He said prior, the only exercise he did was basketball and tennis.

He was NOT that big. Ya'll a bunch of scrawny dweebs if you are impressed by him.
 
I'm not impressed with his size, I'm impressed with his change in a short period of time. And for a special someone's sake:

:elephant:
 
Spent - you are correct. I ahd been 230 at one time.

Manu - the Bfold diet eat evrything in sight is pretty much how I am eating....training 5 days per week:

Mon - hams
Tues - back/traps
Wed - chest/delts
Thurs - quads
Fri - arms
 
Should you have typed pms instead?

I mean, come on...... I picture you in the gym wearing a speedo and those quad pads like Ahmed Johnson used to wear in the WWF.
 
Haven't you seen my fucking quads....I do not need pads Sissy Boy......
 
You never emailed me any of those twiggy quad pics. Actually, when it came time for pics and I sent you mine while we were doing the debate over going with Fina or EQ, you never replied back.

jelus?
 
Taken from an interview with Ed:

"FHM:You put on 30 lbs for the role. Didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger ask if you used steroids?

Ed Norton: Yeah. He was impressed by the size and definition I'd achieved. But for me, it was just a matter of eating, almost to the point of boredom, four or five times a day. A light protein diet combined with lifting weights a lot. When I finished the film, I deflated pretty quickly. "

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I agree with analassplorer- if your impressed by his "size" ya'll are skinny as fuck. Shit, my arms are at least 2" bigger than his and I have only been training seriously for a year. He looks good, dont get me wrong, but anyone with a super fast metablolism like him would get those gains over several months of training. He didn't do it overnight, he did over a period of several months. Guys like him stay ripped and just dont gain fat- I have friends like that, they are ripped year round and still gain muscle due to genetics and very fast metabolism. Look here:

http://www.edwardnorton.org/pictures.asp?cat=amhx

check the pic of him getting arrested by the cops, he looks maybe 180. Hardly "big". He is usually around 165 pounds so it isn't that big of a stretch to make 180 without roids. You guys are rediculous sometimes. If you need to do roids to get that size then you have problems. Now, Vin Diesel on the other hand, yeah he is a juicer. Quite a bit larger, although he says he is 180-200 usually. Of course he has chicken legs anyway.
 
alright for the 80th time this thread. :) we're not saying that we think he juiced because he's BIG. we know he's not a monster. it's because of how much BIGGER he got in such a short amount of time coupled with the scarecrow size he went right back to immediately after shooing that movie.

bigredcat in regards to your friends with the good genetics who stay ripped year round...i completely agree with you that there are people out there with genetics like that. but norton is not one of them. look at his physique in every one of his movies besides AHX. the guy's physique is that of your average 150lb untrained shmoe with a computer jockey desk job. he doesn't have those genetics that you're talking about with your friends. your friends are ripped year round...norton is obviously not.

and his quote of "a light protein diet" lol mmkay. i think that if those of us who started out at norton's original size(myself) got on a light protein diet consisting of 4-5 meals a day, i know for sure i'd shrink. you don't get gain 30lbs of muscle eating 4 maybe 5 times a day with a little bit of extra protein.

amhx21.jpg
 
supersizeme said:
alright for the 80th time this thread. :) we're not saying that we think he juiced because he's BIG. we know he's not a monster. it's because of how much BIGGER he got in such a short amount of time coupled with the scarecrow size he went right back to immediately after shooing that movie.

bigredcat in regards to your friends with the good genetics who stay ripped year round...i completely agree with you that there are people out there with genetics like that. but norton is not one of them. look at his physique in every one of his movies besides AHX. the guy's physique is that of your average 150lb untrained shmoe with a computer jockey desk job. he doesn't have those genetics that you're talking about with your friends. your friends are ripped year round...norton is obviously not.

and his quote of "a light protein diet" lol mmkay. i think that if those of us who started out at norton's original size(myself) got on a light protein diet consisting of 4-5 meals a day, i know for sure i'd shrink. you don't get gain 30lbs of muscle eating 4 maybe 5 times a day with a little bit of extra protein.

amhx21.jpg
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so what are you saying he took? The only thing I can concieve is anavar.
 
He simply had a trainer(an excellent one by the way-same guy who trained the bitch from Terminator) and ate correctly, why is it so hard to believe he is natural? If you know anything about Ed you would know he is NOT the kind of guy to take roids, especially for a lower budget movie like that one. He didn't even like looking like that he said. He hates working out and eating right.

Impressive gains, sure- but it can and obviously was done within a few months. I have a friend who is normally around 150 pounds, skinny little fuck. Well he started lifting hard core(for about 8 months) and now he is ripped to shreds at 180. No roids, just the usual supps. Dont think you have to juice just to gain some weight. How about Joe Piscopo? Did he juice? Probably. How about the guitar player from Dokken, he is pretty big now- he is probably a juicer judging from his back acne. I just dont buy it that Ed "needed" to juice to get a little size. Lots of actors can put on weight in a short time with the right trainer.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
You never emailed me any of those twiggy quad pics. Actually, when it came time for pics and I sent you mine while we were doing the debate over going with Fina or EQ, you never replied back.

jelus?
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You ain't sent me shit Raggedy AnneHeche
 
btw - IMO anavar would be one of the last things he would have used.

Fina/prop(or spension)/eq/winny I would imagine
 
Cornholio said:


You ain't sent me shit Raggedy AnneHeche
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Calling me a liar bitch? I sent you pics like I said I would, what did I get afterwards? HUH? What? A big fucking nothing.

I had some taken after workout today. I can send them to you...... but then again, you will claim not to get them. But send me another email addy besides EF because I can't get to Wodin that way either.


Oh yeah... I almost forgot to add.... Bitch.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:


Calling me a liar bitch? I sent you pics like I said I would, what did I get afterwards? HUH? What? A big fucking nothing.

I had some taken after workout today. I can send them to you...... but then again, you will claim not to get them. But send me another email addy besides EF because I can't get to Wodin that way either.


Oh yeah... I almost forgot to add.... Bitch.
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well...then there ya go - its ef mail then


I didn't get nuttin nugga

check pm
 
Cornholio said:

Manu - the Bfold diet eat evrything in sight is pretty much how I am eating....training 5 days per week:

Mon - hams
Tues - back/traps
Wed - chest/delts
Thurs - quads
Fri - arms
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Why some people can do it and i am not one of them? :bawling:

I will get there :D

Thanks Cornholio
 
AAP said:
Calling me a liar bitch? I sent you pics like I said I would, what did I get afterwards? HUH? What? A big fucking nothing.

I had some taken after workout today. I can send them to you...... but then again, you will claim not to get them. But send me another email addy besides EF because I can't get to Wodin that way either.


Oh yeah... I almost forgot to add.... Bitch.
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lol


tiss tiss
:)
 
I bet he and Brad Pitt are on the same cycle...

Figured that they must have used at least a gram of test a week, 150mg fina a day, and 100mg adrol a day to get those kinds of gains.

B True
 
If there's one thing EF could use more of it's threads about Edward Norton Juicing.
 
Apöllo said:
If there's one thing EF could use more of it's threads about Edward Norton Juicing.
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You think we should have a forum just for this?

Send George a PM and see.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
You think we should have a forum just for this?

Send George a PM and see.

B True
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Acutally there should be a FAQ on the main page regarding Ed.
 
lol@ the fact that this Norton/Pitt debate has been going on for yrs...
 
Edward Norton for "American History- X" looked great. He definately looked like he may have had some "help" to achieve his body type for that movie considering what he usually looks like. (size wise) What "type" of help, that I am unsure. I say that since, who knows if these guys believe the "hype" surrounding steroids, and saty away from them like the plague. they may see them as compared to drugs like herion, and sty away no matter what. It is very possible in this case. IMO He is a great actor I think, and I like his movies.... "The Italian Job" was a good one. he plays a good villian.
 
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