Dosing,... against the rules(I broke them!)

[Big_Joe]

Ok in the spirit of giving.

All this hype got this way off course. I'm not all jacked up, in fact the opposite.

Ive done 4 cycles in my life. 2 were all oral(awesome gains)
This last cycle was my longest yet at a whopping 6 weeks.
The 50 lbs in the last 5 years was with only 2 cycles. One all oral (dbowl and win) The other (dbowl, test, mast, win)this was the most recent 6 weeker.

Ive had absolutely zero side effects, with zero PCT - post cycle therapy - .
I've been off this last one for a couple weeks and I feel awesome! Raging sex drive, huge loads, and great weight retention. Sure my strength has tapered off. But I've had no trouble keeping this last 20 lbs. And I'm still leaning out.

Liver toxicity: I fast before every cycle, flush entire system. (4 day minimum)

We all hear about genetic potential, well increase your potential. What you think I did during the rest of the 5 year span when I wasn't juicing? Biking (climbing hills) push ups(increase stability) Swimming(indurance, strength) trampoline(dynamic range of motion)walking on hands, bball, etc...

I eat alot of fiber, raw fruits and veggies(prefer organic). And I avoid eating poison at all costs, like soda pop, MSG, aspartame, and so on.
You want an edge, well if you had a pop yesterday, you lost your edge today.

Always have protien shake after workout, and always take nap. (always)
I consume at least 3500 cals while off, and 5000 while on. (and I know why)

Sleep minimum of 8 hrs, prefer 9 and no more.

Eat breakfast first thing 5am, whether I'm hungry or not. I eat oatmeal, even though I hate it.

OK that's the short version, What's non conventional?
1 No PCT
2 Train to increase potential, not drug to increase.
3 Short cycles are better cycles
4 Fasting (this short term sacrifice pays big returns)
5 Only train to gain once a year(rest of year is fun exercise)
6 creatine rocks!
7 Only use gear to get over humps (I'm always growing stronger in some area)

I don't see that as non-conventional I see it as the way they trained in the seventies. Eat lots, sleep in sun to get tan, lift heavy ( you call that Train to increase potential), no pct. Where is the breaking of rules? Hell where are the rules?

Here, hug hug kiss kiss, now is it all better?

 

[Papa Lion]

just the no pct is really the only thing I would really so no to... as for the rest... to each his own!! we all know that you CAN recover without pct.... however pct in it's very design is only to SPEED recovery!! and most of us don't want the the "down" time to be any longer than absolutely necessary!! glad your cycles are rolling how you like them!!

 

[hard2handle]

Ok thanks for feed back. I have signed up for 6 months of therapy to help with my lack of confidence. When asked why I felt I needed therapy, I stated "my peers suggested I needed it, when I complained they were breaking the rules, and preying on an individuals insecurities. She said "that sounds noble" I said "don't patronize me" she said, "well, I guess they were right."

 

[nolimitxxx]

You know what? I'm really sick of all the flaming, it's supposed to be against the rules.

I have what I would call outstanding results, (50 lbs in 5 years). I get props everywhere I go. You know the sad thing though? I can't tell you how I did it, at least not here, cause a handful of assholes will rip the thread to pieces, cause I don't follow the same regergitated protocol that they said was right.

Honestly, I'm very unconventional. I agree with alot of things as stated around here, but I disagree with alot too. If I went into specifics I would get reemed.

You know, I guess my only option is to write a book. On that note, that's why I like Nelson. I don't always like, or agree with his comments, but he's progressive and fresh. And he isn't afraid to say something that he knows people will attack him for.

I like the opportunity to discuss things here, with an open mind, and good reasoning. But it seems like when a few popular people agree on something, then it becomes gospel.

I URGE the mods to strictly inforce the NO FLAMING rule. I for one, am tired of it.

I just had the best cycle of my life, and it was WAAAYYY! off of protocol. But I'm afraid to post cause I don't want all the grief.

Did your pussy hurt when you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Or maybe your man boobs have taken over control of your mind. Really . . . just SHUT THE FUCK UP. If you don't like the "flames" then get the hell out and start your own board where you can post you bitching comments elsewhere