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Dosing,... against the rules(I broke them!)
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MichaelScott
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u gonna post or what. i read this whole thread to get to it and its...
I want my minute and thirty seconds back.
702daswoll1
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I should be on my way to work and Im sitting here trying to find this guys unconventional cycle method (and smoking a fat ass joint). Post it up sister. We all want to see..
st8grad
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Pikaberdot said:
I agree. Now you have to post it. It's like telling someone that you have a secret, but then won't tell them what it is. The other thing bro is that it's the internet, it's not like words are going to come through the screen and attack you. So on that note........
hard2handle
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Papa Lion seems to be only one who got my point.
I've been carving my own course for years, I'm not worried that people won't like me. I'm here cause I want to help. I heard a newb repeatedly called 'fucking retarded' and that is what pissed me off. I have never been flamed and don't mind if it happens.
Or the kid who asked if God cares, he was ripped a new one. There is no gray here, that is flaming, and is supposed to be against the rules.
I have no trouble going to another forum, where they have a genuine no flaming rule, but honestly I don't want to. There are alot of people here I like, and I picked this forum because you could talk about anything and get objective opinions. If those days are gone, then I will move on.
What we do, by definition is outside the box.(I mean bbing). We all look for ways to get the edge. I feel one of my strengths is a positive attitude. It's hard everyday to be energized and driven, but we find a way. And I find comfort in sharing that passion with other bros. But when the name calling and put downs start, that creates another mental hurdle to jump over.
Big Joe- thank you for driving my point home. Clearly my problem is lack of courage.
This is not about me feeling safe posting my program, i'm confident with my results. This is about ef being an enviornment where people can learn.(something new)
I've been carving my own course for years, I'm not worried that people won't like me. I'm here cause I want to help. I heard a newb repeatedly called 'fucking retarded' and that is what pissed me off. I have never been flamed and don't mind if it happens.
Or the kid who asked if God cares, he was ripped a new one. There is no gray here, that is flaming, and is supposed to be against the rules.
I have no trouble going to another forum, where they have a genuine no flaming rule, but honestly I don't want to. There are alot of people here I like, and I picked this forum because you could talk about anything and get objective opinions. If those days are gone, then I will move on.
What we do, by definition is outside the box.(I mean bbing). We all look for ways to get the edge. I feel one of my strengths is a positive attitude. It's hard everyday to be energized and driven, but we find a way. And I find comfort in sharing that passion with other bros. But when the name calling and put downs start, that creates another mental hurdle to jump over.
Big Joe- thank you for driving my point home. Clearly my problem is lack of courage.
This is not about me feeling safe posting my program, i'm confident with my results. This is about ef being an enviornment where people can learn.(something new)
Papa Lion said:Agreed samoth with all points!!
however I also have to agree with the original point too!! there's alot of flaming that goes on... that is just not necessary and alot of those "newbies" you refer to are the ones getting the flaming!! I saw some 18 year old kid post yesterday... and then he got called a tool (if I remeber correctly) if he decides to juice... now do you think he really took those words to heart... or do you think he just thought "fuck off" and went with the guy who said go ahead an go for it... you close people's ears when you come out attacking them... and constuctive critisism is in high demand here!! as I've seen alot of name calling here that is just down right childish... not too mention just makes the board look ridiculous and unprofessional!! and I for one wouldn't miss that should it disappear!! but please don't get me wrong... I'm all for other points of view, makes for good discussion... as long as that's what we get and don't suddenly regress to children because it's a discussion forum via internet... and "discussions" degenerate into school yard banter, the only thing I've yet to miss is in some threads is "my dad could kick your dad's ass!!" I've already seen 'my country could kick your countries ass' a long hi-jacked thread not too long ago!! anyways that's it!!
hard2handle said:
Yo dude, if you took a gram a day, who cares? As it stands you're more likely to get criticism for being coy and provocative.
Sure, there will always be flames. It's the internet. But I think this site, in general, is pretty good and whenever someone is unfair, he's usually called on it.
Advice is something else. If you recommended 4 grams a day to newbies, I'D sure as hell call you on it. But if you're happy with your own choices, what the difference? Maybe you're over estimating your own importance a little?
hard2handle
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Ok in the spirit of giving.
All this hype got this way off course. I'm not all jacked up, in fact the opposite.
Ive done 4 cycles in my life. 2 were all oral(awesome gains)
This last cycle was my longest yet at a whopping 6 weeks.
The 50 lbs in the last 5 years was with only 2 cycles. One all oral (dbowl and win) The other (dbowl, test, mast, win)this was the most recent 6 weeker.
Ive had absolutely zero side effects, with zero PCT.
I've been off this last one for a couple weeks and I feel awesome! Raging sex drive, huge loads, and great weight retention. Sure my strength has tapered off. But I've had no trouble keeping this last 20 lbs. And I'm still leaning out.
Liver toxicity: I fast before every cycle, flush entire system. (4 day minimum)
We all hear about genetic potential, well increase your potential. What you think I did during the rest of the 5 year span when I wasn't juicing? Biking (climbing hills) push ups(increase stability) Swimming(indurance, strength) trampoline(dynamic range of motion)walking on hands, bball, etc...
I eat alot of fiber, raw fruits and veggies(prefer organic). And I avoid eating poison at all costs, like soda pop, MSG, aspartame, and so on.
You want an edge, well if you had a pop yesterday, you lost your edge today.
Always have protien shake after workout, and always take nap. (always)
I consume at least 3500 cals while off, and 5000 while on. (and I know why)
Sleep minimum of 8 hrs, prefer 9 and no more.
Eat breakfast first thing 5am, whether I'm hungry or not. I eat oatmeal, even though I hate it.
OK that's the short version, What's non conventional?
1 No PCT
2 Train to increase potential, not drug to increase.
3 Short cycles are better cycles
4 Fasting (this short term sacrifice pays big returns)
5 Only train to gain once a year(rest of year is fun exercise)
6 creatine rocks!
7 Only use gear to get over humps (I'm always growing stronger in some area)
All this hype got this way off course. I'm not all jacked up, in fact the opposite.
Ive done 4 cycles in my life. 2 were all oral(awesome gains)
This last cycle was my longest yet at a whopping 6 weeks.
The 50 lbs in the last 5 years was with only 2 cycles. One all oral (dbowl and win) The other (dbowl, test, mast, win)this was the most recent 6 weeker.
Ive had absolutely zero side effects, with zero PCT.
I've been off this last one for a couple weeks and I feel awesome! Raging sex drive, huge loads, and great weight retention. Sure my strength has tapered off. But I've had no trouble keeping this last 20 lbs. And I'm still leaning out.
Liver toxicity: I fast before every cycle, flush entire system. (4 day minimum)
We all hear about genetic potential, well increase your potential. What you think I did during the rest of the 5 year span when I wasn't juicing? Biking (climbing hills) push ups(increase stability) Swimming(indurance, strength) trampoline(dynamic range of motion)walking on hands, bball, etc...
I eat alot of fiber, raw fruits and veggies(prefer organic). And I avoid eating poison at all costs, like soda pop, MSG, aspartame, and so on.
You want an edge, well if you had a pop yesterday, you lost your edge today.
Always have protien shake after workout, and always take nap. (always)
I consume at least 3500 cals while off, and 5000 while on. (and I know why)
Sleep minimum of 8 hrs, prefer 9 and no more.
Eat breakfast first thing 5am, whether I'm hungry or not. I eat oatmeal, even though I hate it.
OK that's the short version, What's non conventional?
1 No PCT
2 Train to increase potential, not drug to increase.
3 Short cycles are better cycles
4 Fasting (this short term sacrifice pays big returns)
5 Only train to gain once a year(rest of year is fun exercise)
6 creatine rocks!
7 Only use gear to get over humps (I'm always growing stronger in some area)
