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done with steroids

Forget the routines of bodybuilding magazines, they are totally ineffective for a hardgainer. Hell they pretty much suck period. You need to check out the DC training method, or HST. I hate to say it bro but you could probably have hit 170-190 all natural.
 
Bullshit!!!you wanna stop for yourself, then by all means do but don't do for your wife cause she makes you do it. First of all, don't tell her shit cause it may backfire on you later.Second of all, it's not jsut Anavar use that is easy to hide, it's long lasting esters that are easy to hide periods.Your wife "prefers" your old look over the new one? Are you bodybuilding for your wife?
 
But are steroids done with you? I think not brother, it's like Hulkamania, once it runs wild, it runs over everything. Once a hulkamaniac then always hulkamaniac. May the 24 inch pythons be with you.
 
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plex1500 said:
get on something to shut your nuts down make appt with endocrenologist spelling???? tell him u have been dropping lbs,no sex drive etc... depressed u talked to your brother who is a few years older and lives cross country and he said try hormone replacement therapy...doc may make u try patch for 30 days etc... if he does it come back in 30 days tell him it did not work tell him bro gives self shot at home and you need to learn to do same because you can't get off work to come to docs every week or two,he will test your test levels they should be low i did this and got test 200mg every 2 weeks told doc it helped some he upped it to 200mg every week and presto u can stay on.

Some good ideas in here! Will she not even support it if it is doctor perscribed?
 
jdemon519 - What the hell do you know! Do you even have a wife and kids?

My wife isn't making me do anything. She hasn't told me that it's her or the steroids or anything. In fact, she told me to do what I want. I have a choice here to take them or not take them but there are consequences for my decision. The drugs discust her and therefore I am discusting to her when I am taking them. She doesn't want me to touch her or even be around her when I am on. How long do you think a marrage can last under those circumstances? I am making my decision for ME because I don't want to lose my wife and son.

Believe me. I have thought of sneaking them. She would never know. I don't know; I still might but I hate to start hiding shit from her. Good marrages are built on a foundation of trust and I hate to violate that. I will try to talk to her about it in a few months and then we'll see.....
 
Spidey, come live in the Netherlands, we always need chemists here, and there are no legal issues regarding gear (possession of small quantities is allowed). If you like, you can hide your stuff in my place and shoot there also.
 
Mackavelli said:
That's exactly why she wants you to stop. Not for health blah, blah, blah, but for her security. You see when you get bigger and more defined you become more confident and more desirable to women. She apparently cannot handle this. I say you agree to stop, but shoot yourself at work. Leave your stuff locked in a small box somewhere like work. Move to items like primo, anavar, eq and winny. Stay away from test and dbol b/c they blow you up more and fina and deca because of possible sexual side effects.


Umm no offense Mackavelli, but that isn't very good advice. All it takes is for him to get caught one time and it is done and over with. I think he made a good choice though a very difficult one from some people. BUt you need to way your options. I think he choose wisely.
 
i dont think u r training to be a body builder- just want to be a bit bigger right? with that said- i don't think it is necessary at all to juice- i assume u love ur wife and kid so just dont do it.
so now u have to do it naturally. let me tell u- i know a 40 yr old guy- 6ft6 270lbs and cut up (once was 312). guess how many cycles he did? nope not even 5- exactly 1- almost every bit of it was natural. BTW- 300 g of protein is not what u want. the thumb rule is quite simply 1g & 25cals for every lb of body wt. i think this easily explained here in the "skinny bastard diet" (!)
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/176skin2.html
check it out. i think u should do some research on body building naturally- there is a treasure trove of info out there and some of it actually works. my fav site for tips on that is leehayward.com.
best of luck- hope this helps
 
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