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done with steroids

The Terminator said:
Cycles such as anavar 40 mg/day are easy to do (and hide :) ) from prying wives. It just looks like any of the barrage of pills one takes in each day. All is not lost Spidey....(wait until you have kids :eek2:, then you will really reconsider...)

I have four kids....LOL it ain't that bad just expensive.

As far as hiding it, try getting some papervar. VERY easy to hide and can be taken ANYWHERE. Hell, you could keep it at work and nobody would even know.

PS-My wife helped me do the research :D
 
If you love your wife and family than it is more important than steroids. With steroids you take a lot of legal risks, and I am not sure anyone with a family has a right to do this (as there are more people involved). Now if you can get a prescription, than it is a whole new game.

If you can get a prescription for them then you can tell your wife that they are legal and I am sure she will be fine. If she still doesn't like the idea, then I don't see anything wrong with doing it and not telling her. If you take the legal factor out, and if you take all necessary health precautions, than it is up to you to take steroids or not.

Get it legally though! Steroids aren't worth ruining a marriage.

-sk
 
DeepZenPill said:
If you don't think you can keep your current size, you need to reevaluate your diet and training habits. 160lbs is definitely an easily maintainable natural weight. Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but I think you could definitely be in even better shape and not even need the gear.
I have the metabolism from hell. I weighed 125 - 130 lbs my entire adult life before AS and I had to eat every 2 hours to maintain that! I am 35 now; maybe I am getting older and my metabolism isn't so reved up anymore. I guess I will find out.

As far as my diet and training goes, I try to get 3500 calories and 300 grams protein a day and I work out on a 4 day split: Monday chest and tri's, Tuesday legs, Wednesday off, Thursday shoulders and bi's, Friday back, traps, and abs. I do 3 sets of 8 reps for each body part going up in weight each time with the last set at the heaviest weights I can complete the set with.

Feel free to critique :) .
 
sk* had some great advice.



Spidey said:
I doubt I will be able to keep it without AS though. My metabolism is just too high.
You're fucking yourself right in the ass with this attitude. Neither you nor your body has some magical power over the laws of physics. Eat more than you burn and you will grow - there is no way around it.

Sure, it's harder for you. Do you really want to sculpt the body you want? Find a way. Look for nutrient dense foods. Maybe you need to eat 8 times instead of 6 to get your cals. Maybe you need to eat ever hour and a half instead of every three to meet you goals. It can be done, and with a little practice, it will not be hard.



On the diet specifics, let me give you a bit of advice. Cut the protein. The idea that someone your size need anywhere near 300 grams per day to grow is a lie. Shoot for around 1.8-2 grams per kilogram of bodyweight. Aim for about 30% of calories from fat - good fat! Fill in the rest with quality low GI carbs, save for your post-exercise meal.

Right now you are denying your body carbs it could use to create and maintain a stronger anabolic drive.

BTW, you do not need steroids to sculpt a GREAT body. None of us does.

Good luck.
 
What's the big deal about hiding it? Go in the bathroom and lock the door. (?)

I guarantee you can hit 160 without gear.
 
Spidey said:
My wife just can't deal with it and I think my continued steroid use would damage my marrage; it may already have.

I will miss it a lot. The strength is very addictive and I loved the way they made me feel and look but, as weird as it sounds, I think she prefers the way I looked before. I was chronically underweight at 130 lbs and 5'8" tall. I had 13.5 inch arms and 14 inch calves, a 38 inch chest and a 29" waist. Does that sound good to you? I have added 1.5 inches to my arms and calves and over 4 inches to my chest. I haven't measured my shoulders but I think I have added at least 6 inches in shoulder width. How could that possibly not look better?? I am completely mystified. I am now 160 lbs with a 32" waist, 42 inch chest, 15 inch arms and calves. I know that isn't big by most of your standards but that is huge for me. I doubt I will be able to keep it without AS though. My metabolism is just too high. Shit, I went to a conference in DC a couple weeks ago and for 4 days just ate 3 good meals a day and walked around a lot seeing the sites and I lost 8 frigging pounds.

It's frustrating because she refuses to learn anything about them or even talk about it. I think she feels that if she were to read up a little I would think she was condoning it. So, she won't even attempt to learn.

I envy you guys who have wives that are OK with it or even give you your shots. You are very lucky. As for me, I'm done. Steroids aren't worth my marrage.

You must be reading my mail. I'm having the exact same problem with my wife. I can't figure out what he hates more, the AAS use or the time I spend on this board. I think he hates the time on spend on here more because that's all we fight about. She accused me of being "obsessed". Shit, maybe she's right. I do spend an awful lot of time here.
 
i feel for ya bro.

i tried to put myself in your shoes and its tough.

no matter which way you go, dont leave us.
 
sk* said:
If you love your wife and family than it is more important than steroids. With steroids you take a lot of legal risks, and I am not sure anyone with a family has a right to do this (as there are more people involved). Now if you can get a prescription, than it is a whole new game.

If you can get a prescription for them then you can tell your wife that they are legal and I am sure she will be fine. If she still doesn't like the idea, then I don't see anything wrong with doing it and not telling her. If you take the legal factor out, and if you take all necessary health precautions, than it is up to you to take steroids or not.

Get it legally though! Steroids aren't worth ruining a marriage.

-sk

nice post.
 
She needs to compromise with you. Why should you quit, she refuses even to talk about it with you......like she just automatically gets what she wants. What is her big problem with it? Im sure your quite healthy.....she should respect that its what you love to do. Im sure she wouldnt like it if you made her stop doing something she loved.......
 
DeepZenPill said:
If you don't think you can keep your current size, you need to reevaluate your diet and training habits. 160lbs is definitely an easily maintainable natural weight. Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but I think you could definitely be in even better shape and not even need the gear.

He makes a valid point here spidey
 
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