Does squatting heavy weight decrease your vertical jump?

[agilityftw]

The title says it all. I have around a 32 inch vertical and i do heavy squats on a regular routine; it's part of my workout.

But i have heard that squattiing (especially with heavy weight) can actually slow down some parts of your muscle, so I thought "hey would that affect your vertical?"

let's hope not because I do squats often since it's a valueable workout for me and I would hate to lose my vert...

So there you have it.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

i dont think it will make it worse, expect if you tried jumpinf after heavy squats probably wouldnt be as good. But squatting should improve your vert if anything

 

[agilityftw]

Alright... well i was reading a few articals about this earlier today and they say that squats are going to actually increase your vertical, but at the same time it'll decrease your running vertical because squats are going to slow your muscles down just a bit. Although i guess i could do plyometrics, which focuses more on the explosiveness and lateral quickness of the leg-area.

Anywase from what I've read plyometrics are going to increase your running vertical but won't increase your standing vertical as much as squats will. But squats will increase your vertical, just not a running vertical; the exact opposite.

Hmmm? Wonder what would happen if i did em both for a while XD

 

[SouthernLord]

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[agilityftw]

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[Tblock1]

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Maybe try doing some light squats for lots of reps, and squat jumps. Always explode and I don't think you would lose any speed on the vertical.

 

[needtogetaas]

and lunges to man. They will help everything you are trying to do.

 

[dabuffguy]

Squats will improve your explosiveness and power off the line/ground.

Of course, plyometrics will give you that spring in your step, as well as sprinting too.


The combination of plyometrics, squatting, and sprinting will increase your vertical substantially

I could dunk big time in high school at 6'2". I did specialized speed and agility training for baseball and I could leap like a gazelle. The program was composed of exacly what I just said. Heavy leg work, sprinting and plyometrics. They also emphasized core stability and strength.

Plyometrics consist of box jumps, 4-square patterned plyos (side to side, diagonal and forward to back), jump rope, block jumps, etc.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Squats will improve your explosiveness and power off the line/ground.

Of course, plyometrics will give you that spring in your step, as well as sprinting too.


The combination of plyometrics, squatting, and sprinting will increase your vertical substantially

I could dunk big time in high school at 6'2". I did specialized speed and agility training for baseball and I could leap like a gazelle. The program was composed of exacly what I just said. Heavy leg work, sprinting and plyometrics. They also emphasized core stability and strength.

Plyometrics consist of box jumps, 4-square patterned plyos (side to side, diagonal and forward to back), jump rope, block jumps, etc.

how often did you do the plyometrics?

 

[agilityftw]

Squats will improve your explosiveness and power off the line/ground.

Of course, plyometrics will give you that spring in your step, as well as sprinting too.


The combination of plyometrics, squatting, and sprinting will increase your vertical substantially

I could dunk big time in high school at 6'2". I did specialized speed and agility training for baseball and I could leap like a gazelle. The program was composed of exacly what I just said. Heavy leg work, sprinting and plyometrics. They also emphasized core stability and strength.

Plyometrics consist of box jumps, 4-square patterned plyos (side to side, diagonal and forward to back), jump rope, block jumps, etc.

Nice, I guess I could stick to a workout of that sort. Your stats Sound something like mine... About 6'1, and a sprinter.

With the workout you described I could also throw in some leg press and calf presses with that aswell.

I also like what needtoget said; the lunges sounds like a good idea. Especially weighted dumbell lunges

 

[timtim]

if you want more pop, use whats called complex training.

max effort squat for no more than 20 seconds - probably 2 to 3 reps and then go immediately into standing broad jumps. you should get about 10 to 12 jumps. rest 3 minutes. repeat for 6 to 8 sets.

 

[dabuffguy]

how often did you do the plyometrics?

The plyometrics and the heavy leg work were done on the same day, twice a week.

Sprinting was a day all it self. Inclined sprinting was used a lot. This was either once or twice a week depending on the workout.

By the end of my training, I could run a 6.6 second 60yd dash. For reference, Deion Sanders ran a 6.2. My 40yd was about 4.5. My off-the-line speed wasn't as good, but my top end was really good. I could go at 22mph on the treadmill. They had a "20mph club" and I got 22 The fastest I saw on there was 25mph and he was an olympic sprinter. They trained olympic athletes there as well.

I'm not sure what my vertical was, but I know it was impressive. I could jump to eye-level with the rim. At 6'2", that's skying.

Of course, I weighed 175 lbs back then. At around 240 now, I can still dunk, and I attribute that to the power of my legs from heavy leg work. I can't jump so the rim is eye-level, but I can get up and put it in.



So, I know that that shit works like a dream.

What was cool is I usually did my training sessions alongside Jeff Hornacek's son. Jeff was there a lot of the time and I got to talk to him quite a few times.

There was a basketball tournament at my high school on a saturday that same year, and my friends said John Stockton and Jeff Horncek were there. We were already there for a baseball practice and I was all "Oh, I Know Jeff, he's cool" My friends didn't believe me. I went up to him with my friends, sitting next to John Stockton and I said, "Hey Jeff what's up". He was like, "Oh, hey Mark, what's up man?" My friends couldn't believe it. Hahaha, it was funny.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

The plyometrics and the heavy leg work were done on the same day, twice a week.

Sprinting was a day all it self. Inclined sprinting was used a lot. This was either once or twice a week depending on the workout.

By the end of my training, I could run a 6.6 second 60yd dash. For reference, Deion Sanders ran a 6.2. My 40yd was about 4.5. My off-the-line speed wasn't as good, but my top end was really good. I could go at 22mph on the treadmill. They had a "20mph club" and I got 22 The fastest I saw on there was 25mph and he was an olympic sprinter. They trained olympic athletes there as well.

I'm not sure what my vertical was, but I know it was impressive. I could jump to eye-level with the rim. At 6'2", that's skying.

Of course, I weighed 175 lbs back then. At around 240 now, I can still dunk, and I attribute that to the power of my legs from heavy leg work. I can't jump so the rim is eye-level, but I can get up and put it in.



So, I know that that shit works like a dream.

What was cool is I usually did my training sessions alongside Jeff Hornacek's son. Jeff was there a lot of the time and I got to talk to him quite a few times.

There was a basketball tournament at my high school on a saturday that same year, and my friends said John Stockton and Jeff Horncek were there. We were already there for a baseball practice and I was all "Oh, I Know Jeff, he's cool" My friends didn't believe me. I went up to him with my friends, sitting next to John Stockton and I said, "Hey Jeff what's up". He was like, "Oh, hey Mark, what's up man?" My friends couldn't believe it. Hahaha, it was funny.

Damn you can still dunk? thats pretty good for a guy your size.

I tried making a routine for me that involved sprinting, maybe you could go check it out its here in the training forum it wasnt made too long ago...