Does Marijuana ruin lives and entire societies?

[jnevin]

I agree, this was in respond to mrplunkey's constantly bringing it up in other threads, i figured i'd give him one place to rant about marijuana use if he wanted.

Or a place for you to justify your addiction.

 

[OneBreath]

Well, granted, I would be offering anecdotal evidence, but I can tell you that it ruined my childhood. Having a high mom is NOT FUN! Having a mom who spends the rent money on weed is not fun! Having a mom who gets you evicted every 6 months or so is not fun. Being ignored for weed is not fun. Shall I continue? Men, booze, weed, money...

Do you think this influenced you becoming an achiever?

 

[heatherrae]

Do you think this influenced you becoming an achiever?

I think I just got lucky and fell into the smart crowd at school and had other people's mothers take interest in me and encourage me. It was about 85% luck. Seriously.

 

[binö]

You are really stretching and rationalizing there. No one smoked more weed than my mom, and I can assure you that it didn't sharpen her creative or cognitive functioning in any way. that is such a myth. Hate to tell you, but getting high leads to as much irresponsible behavior (unprotected sex, etc) as drinking does. It is a financial drain on families. It causes cancer, just as smoking does (please don't give the tired old argument that there is no study proving it yet). As far as easing nerves and tension, it sure didn't ease my tension as a child watching my mom get high and performing all of her antics. The year before she died of cancer, she got this wild notion while she was high that she was going to start a hair salon in her house. So, she ripped all the carpet out of her house, took it outside and started a big ole bonfire with it. That is the sort of stuff she would do. So, when you visited her house then, you were walking around on sub-floor. Potheads are nutty.

marijuana has never been linked to cancer...tired of the facts as you maybe doesn't chance that clear point.
props to your mom, for having a dream of a hair salon...lotsa people don't even get that far as she did.
and what type of irresponsible behaviour are you referring to?
i don't think you know much about this topic at all honestly...you are basing all your alleged facts off of one instance, your mother (RIP)

 

[Lestat]

You are really stretching and rationalizing there. No one smoked more weed than my mom, and I can assure you that it didn't sharpen her creative or cognitive functioning in any way. that is such a myth. Hate to tell you, but getting high leads to as much irresponsible behavior (unprotected sex, etc) as drinking does. It is a financial drain on families. It causes cancer, just as smoking does (please don't give the tired old argument that there is no study proving it yet). As far as easing nerves and tension, it sure didn't ease my tension as a child watching my mom get high and performing all of her antics. The year before she died of cancer, she got this wild notion while she was high that she was going to start a hair salon in her house. So, she ripped all the carpet out of her house, took it outside and started a big ole bonfire with it. That is the sort of stuff she would do. So, when you visited her house then, you were walking around on sub-floor. Potheads are nutty.

You are doing the exact same thing I do. Taking your personal experience with something, and drawing your conclusions about it based on that experience. If you look at my college transcripts, my gpa went up over time, as did my marijuana use (I didn't start using it until the 2nd half of my freshman year). I rarely drink, so I save a lot of money because marijuana is a lot cheaper. Also, I am able to still function (mentally and physicall) under the influence of weed, I was not able to do this under other drugs and alcohol. I use marijuana as a reinforcer (I've created a thread about this in detail before). And again, from my personal experience, I know M.D.s that use it. I know company Executives that do. I know high profile laywers that do. All of that is goes into me forming my world view on the subject, just as your personal experience is what you use to form your's.

I go a step further, I realize that my personal experience doesn't generalize to all people, so I look for more objective sources. I took 3 college courses specifically on drugs and their effects on behavior and cognition. I've read more than one book on marijuana (the best one was written by an MD and a Ph.D. and draws from a wealth of sources).

Does this make me any more "right" then you? Of course not. Does this mean weed didn't have terrible effects on you and your family? No!

I think all it really tells us is that different people can be affected in dramatically different ways by the same sort of stimuli. This isn't unique to weed, the same principle is at play for many other drugs (legal or not) as well as non drug stimuli like music, movies, etc.

 

[Lestat]

Or a place for you to justify your addiction.

I don't know you well enough to say with any certainty, but that post reeks of projection.

 

[heatherrae]

marijuana has never been linked to cancer...tired of the facts as you maybe doesn't chance that clear point.
props to your mom, for having a dream of a hair salon...lotsa people don't even get that far as she did.
and what type of irresponsible behaviour are you referring to?
i don't think you know much about this topic at all honestly

Really? don't i? I grew up around it every single day of my life. LOL. Just because you want to delude yourself so you can continue your behavior doesn't invalidate the truth.

 

[jnevin]

I don't know you well enough to say with any certainty, but that post reeks of projection.

LMAO

Yours pretty much defines projection.

 

[miplank]

I think I just got lucky and fell into the smart crowd at school and had other people's mothers take interest in me and encourage me. It was about 85% luck. Seriously.

I think you are extremely lucky...


Altough it boils down to will power, as a child if that's all you have to go off of as far as a role model is concerned..it makes it really tough.

I knew a lot of kids in highschool that had stoners for parents. Guess what...they were stoners too...they would get high with their parents, etc.


oh...did I mention they are still losers?

 

[heatherrae]

You are doing the exact same thing I do. Taking your personal experience with something, and drawing your conclusions about it based on that experience. If you look at my college transcripts, my gpa went up over time, as did my marijuana use (I didn't start using it until the 2nd half of my freshman year). I rarely drink, so I save a lot of money because marijuana is a lot cheaper. Also, I am able to still function (mentally and physicall) under the influence of weed, I was not able to do this under other drugs and alcohol. I use marijuana as a reinforcer (I've created a thread about this in detail before). And again, from my personal experience, I know M.D.s that use it. I know company Executives that do. I know high profile laywers that do. All of that is goes into me forming my world view on the subject, just as your personal experience is what you use to form your's.

I go a step further, I realize that my personal experience doesn't generalize to all people, so I look for more objective sources. I took 3 college courses specifically on drugs and their effects on behavior and cognition. I've read more than one book on marijuana (the best one was written by an MD and a Ph.D. and draws from a wealth of sources).

Does this make me any more "right" then you? Of course not. Does this mean weed didn't have terrible effects on you and your family? No!

I think all it really tells us is that different people can be affected in dramatically different ways by the same sort of stimuli. This isn't unique to weed, the same principle is at play for many other drugs (legal or not) as well as non drug stimuli like music, movies, etc.

I think that the people of whom you speak and you succeeded in spite of your drug use, not as a result of it.

For every one person you know that is a success despite their drug use, I bet I could show you one hundred who are useless potheads because of their use.

No offense, but the first step to recovery from an addiction is admitting you have a problem. You sound like you are psychologically addicted to pot. I hope it is just a phase for you.