it's a magical feeling....avidinternet said:Not right now, but I have in the past.
HumanTarget said:it's a magical feeling....
Gotta recharge K....you're young, give it time.InquisitivePsyche said:Nope.
i always listen to you, but don't remeber you saying anything. i was just musing, if i were to write a ballad, a love song if you will, it would have to be called, "I love you so much, i hate you." and i thought i'd get some input on it...stilleto said:someone didn't heed my warning.
HumanTarget said:it's a magical feeling....
disappear? like shallow grave in an orchard disappear?avidinternet said:Yes it is... and magic as in "poof" I made him disappear.
Love/Hate relationships, forget it.
Love/Love is actually possible and so mucher better.
HumanTarget said:disappear? like shallow grave in an orchard disappear?
as long as you don't have a butt tattoo of his name....avidinternet said:That would have been my preference...but no... just disappear and go on to marry 2 other women and become their problems, not mine.
It was actually the best thing that ever happened to me truth be told.
HumanTarget said:as long as you don't have a butt tattoo of his name....
HumanTarget said:nothing like seeing "TONY" in bold Old English blocks on a girls ass for the first time.
tony?avidinternet said:Ironically, if I had gotten his name tattooed it would have been ok because my husband has the exact same name. What are the odds on that?
HumanTarget said:tony?
HumanTarget said:i always listen to you, but don't remeber you saying anything. i was just musing, if i were to write a ballad, a love song if you will, it would have to be called, "I love you so much, i hate you." and i thought i'd get some input on it...
it happens. i gotta let it down once in a while. but i do like the idea of having my self plexi-glassed in, like a cabby or bank teller.stilleto said:i could remind you of what I said, but not publicly.
it had to do with you staying guarded.
HumanTarget said:it happens. i gotta let it down once in a while. but i do like the idea of having my self plexi-glassed in, like a cabby or bank teller.
i'm not hating anyone, Buttercup. i swear. but i do agree that being selective in who you provide "service" for is key.stilleto said:i'm not saying to stay behind a plexiglass shield like a loan officer.
i'm said that you should make sure that your "bank customer" is ... an actual candidate for a loan...
but, whatever. i'm sure you and your hate will be fine.
i've been trying to figure that out to this day. isn't real love supposed to be eternal and all that? how come i only feel it for a little while....so it goes....jnevin said:I swear to god, sometimes I wonder if I even really feel love, or hate, or anything, or if I've always just stayed numb and have the shit confused with just not wanting to be alone. Been thinking about that a lot lately.
HumanTarget said:i've been trying to figure that out to this day. isn't real love supposed to be eternal and all that? how come i only feel it for a little while....so it goes....
yeah. i hear ya. it's like trying to manufacture your own emotions.jnevin said:I really thought I'd feel more when I stopped drinking.
HumanTarget said:yeah. i hear ya. it's like trying to manufacture your own emotions.
jnevin said:Yeah. I think I've been trying and then I just get disappointed. I don't know. It's getting on my nerves though.
stilleto said:i've been there. your emotions are just exhausted.
it's complicated. exhaustion, fatigue, defeat. when shit is just getting the best of you despite your best efforts. so, what i did was just find a nice safe routine to hide in. as miserable & predictable as it is.....it's safe. i can step outside of that comfort zone anytime i want but i just don't. no matter how many times you get kicked in the balls, people expect you to get back up. which, is what you just gotta do...i've done this so many fucking times i finally learned that booze and dope only make it worse & that is prolly the most important thing i've reaped. at least no one can call me a junkie anymore....jnevin said:What does that mean though? Am I stuck this way? I hate it.
HumanTarget said:it's complicated. exhaustion, fatigue, defeat. when shit is just getting the best of you despite your best efforts. so, what i did was just find a nice safe routine to hide in. as miserable & predictable as it is.....it's safe. i can step outside of that comfort zone anytime i want but i just don't. no matter how many times you get kicked in the balls, people expect you to get back up. which, is what you just gotta do...i've done this so many fucking times i finally learned that booze and dope only make it worse & that is prolly the most important thing i've reaped. at least no one can call me a junkie anymore....
i don't think meds are made for people in your situation. they shouldn't be, at least. it'd just be another thing masking or shielding you from whatever. you're just on a hunt of sorts, i think. and it's best for everyone to just leave you alone and not be judgemental until you find what your looking for or until you ask for help.jnevin said:See, that's a frustrating thing for me right now. The best successes I've had have been from stepping out of my comfort zone. All work related, but whatever. With everything else, I've always just kind of gone on, not dealt with anything, and just put anything that bugged me or didn't feel I was getting out of a situation on the back burner. Now I just feel numb all the time. Like, someone dies, and I really try to feel bad about it and I don't feel anything. that happened at work a few weeks ago. I just didn't feel anything. I wanted to, I couldn't make it happen. I'm not about to medicate myself either, like crazy pill medicate. I just want what I see other people have.
jnevin said:What does that mean though? Am I stuck this way? I hate it.
stilleto said:no, you're not stuck. your shell shocked. things get back to normal, but for right now, its easier not to feel anything than to allow yourself to feel.
but you know those feelings can be so hard to let go of? that you get common recurrances when speaking with others, or being exposed to it second handed? it's like not drinking but being around drinkers. your values change. and that's the bad part.stilleto said:no, you're not stuck. your shell shocked. things get back to normal, but for right now, its easier not to feel anything than to allow yourself to feel.
HumanTarget said:but you know those feelings can be so hard to let go of? that you get common recurrances when speaking with others, or being exposed to it second handed? it's like not drinking but being around drinkers. your values change. and that's the bad part.
stilleto said:no, you're not stuck. your shell shocked. things get back to normal, but for right now, its easier not to feel anything than to allow yourself to feel.
jnevin said:I'm having a hard time with this. It's why I used to drink. Now I'm doing it without the booze. It's fucking stupid.
stilleto said:this is definately NOT the time you want to numb your feelings though.
its like taking a tylenol when you hurt your knee, so you keep walking on it, thinking its fine. then the tylenol wears off and you're fucking crippled.
when's the last time you took a break? a vacation. and i mean leave the house out of town vacation.jnevin said:That's the thing. It's like I'm doing it and not realizing. Then sometimes I feel like I'm going to lose it over nothing. That's when I push it back.
jnevin said:That's the thing. It's like I'm doing it and not realizing. Then sometimes I feel like I'm going to lose it over nothing. That's when I push it back.
some of your reflections might help.stilleto said:i could talk to you more, but privately. i think you do need some time to reflect. time to think clearly and either give your heart a rest and let your head do some of the work, or let everything rest.
maybe you need to just spend a few days with your SELF. you have a place you can be alone for the weekend? even, like with mom and dad? go there.
HumanTarget said:some of your reflections might help.
Love and Like are not the same thing.Oceano said:lol, why would you hate someone you like?
i mean like frontal nudity.stilleto said:his situation has one major difference from mine.
HER.
but, i still had to come to terms with some things for a while, and I'd be happy to tell him what helped me cope.
HumanTarget said:i mean like frontal nudity.
i keep my profile stocked, just in case such emergencies.stilleto said:yeah, well sure.
if he wants to send me some pics, i'll take a look.
stilleto said:i could talk to you more, but privately. i think you do need some time to reflect. time to think clearly and either give your heart a rest and let your head do some of the work, or let everything rest.
maybe you need to just spend a few days with your SELF. you have a place you can be alone for the weekend? even, like with mom and dad? go there.

jnevin said:I don't have anyone here.
it's tastefully done. like an Ansel Adams...stilleto said:woahhhhhhhhhh nelly.
i was not expecting johnson to be there.
!!
Yes, if ansel adams made mini pics, like the ones that go in keyrings at the carnival.HumanTarget said:it's tastefully done. like an Ansel Adams...
stilleto said:just get away for a few days and clear your mind.
a cheap motel if you have to.
stilleto said:woahhhhhhhhhh nelly.
i was not expecting johnson to be there.
!!
jnevin said:Not abad idea. Take the dog and go to Southern Utah for a couple of days. Check out some whatever you check out when people camp.
stilleto said:of course it's a good idea.
i thought of it.
seriously, just clear your head. enjoy the scenery, go do something you've been wanting to do, be alone. but ENJOY it. if that means not thinking about anything... then don't.
i'll teach you the meaning of the word respect.heatherrae said:Yes, if ansel adams made mini pics, like the ones that go in keyrings at the carnival.
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HumanTarget said:i'll teach you the meaning of the word respect.

HumanTarget said:i have a dog and fish. 2 of the best parts of my life. appreciation and relaxation the second i walk in the door.
see? now here's a woman with integrity.ksharp01 said:NNNOOOO.....teach me, teach me!!!![]()
HumanTarget said:see? now here's a woman with integrity.
I wuv you 
ksharp01 said:and hot damn you!!!
I will have to go look at you pic from time to time...so don't change itI wuv you
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jnevin said:Yeah. WTF??? I was looking so I could tell people on that other thread about your back being all tore up.
Jerk.
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