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Do You Believe in Spanking?

Do you believe in spanking?

  • yes

    Votes: 31 81.6%

  • no

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Total voters
    38
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The childrens right movement that has been bearing down for more than 30 years would like to take that right away. I think spanking is necessary to rear your children in the right direction the time out shit that spock talked about wouldn't even work on the planet Vulcan.

So what is your opinion on it and at what age will you quit spanking?
 
I was spanked as a child.

I believe that discipline is necessary in the upbringing of a child...imo this is discipline in whatever form appropriate.

Will I spank my child? If the situation deems appropriate, yes I will.
 
Yes. In the right context and proper manner.
Context-not when you're doing it out of anger.
manner-on the but only! No legs, face, back, etc...
 
I took some good advice from my pops'. He said he'd only spank me when I was growing up if I did something that was going to lead to a crime(i.e. stealing a toy car). I think that is the protocol I'll use, when they are about 9-10 I'll substitute spankings for lectures.
 
StickFigure said:
Yes. In the right context and proper manner.
Context-not when you're doing it out of anger.
manner-on the but only! No legs, face, back, etc...
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I agree totally with you. Why do you think their is so much padding back there if it was meant to be tenderized?
 
I agree that spanking in moderation is needed at times but I do not think it is the end all in discipline. after about 7 or 8 it seems to me that the shock value of being hit on the butt has worn off. personally I found that removing priveleges and /or possesions worked much beter (not throwing away their stuff but taking it away for a period of time) JMO
 
Hell yeah i believe in hitting kids. I havent got any yet but when I do if they so much as look at me in a disrespectful way I'll beat them silly with a length of electical cable untill they know who's boss. And if i catch one of them hitting their younger brother or sister, well brace your self little johnny cos then ill bring out the big gun, a hand carved wooden whoop-ass bat with splinters on it. Anyone who says Im wrong is a liberal weenie. :rolleyes:
 
string_bean00 said:
My dad's favorite weapon when I acted like a little shit was a fly swatter. That thing stung.
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i used to get whacked wit the wooden spoon until it broke..then my mother switched to metal..finally a few years ago wooden spoons have returned to my home lol
 
My only decision will be wether to use open hand or closed fist.
 
IMHO-only on the booty, age 4 and under, not hard enough to leave a mark.

Now that is for my own child, other wise,
only if over 18, hard fast and often.
 
I think that how naughty a child is reflects on their parents and their teaching habits. Obviously very stressful for parents at times but firm action without the physicalness should be sufficient enough. Spanking just teaches a kid how to be the same way when they have kids. I have a thing about kids getting smacked. If you teach a kid the right things from the beginning they wouldnt need to be disciplined with spankings.

only my opinion - i am not saying anything directed towards anyone!
 
alien amp pharm said:
My only decision will be wether to use open hand or closed fist.
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"You must spread some Karma around before giving it to alien amp pharm again."

I tried bro... Love the new avatar! Totally agree :heart:


Spankings? Sure, I'm not having any kids so I don't really care, beat the little brats all you want. In fact, I think whenever the neighbors kids come into my yard I should be able to discipline them myself. MY LAWN IS NOT YOUR RACE TRACK YOU LITTLE BUTT NUGGETS!!!!
 
Dakotah said:
I think that how naughty a child is reflects on their parents and their teaching habits. Obviously very stressful for parents at times but firm action without the physicalness should be sufficient enough. Spanking just teaches a kid how to be the same way when they have kids. I have a thing about kids getting smacked. If you teach a kid the right things from the beginning they wouldnt need to be disciplined with spankings.

only my opinion - i am not saying anything directed towards anyone!
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I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. Most of my friends have children, ages ranging from 2-13. I've noticed you can talk to them until your blue in the face, but they only seem to "get it" once a can of ass whoopin' is opened up. Its funny because the two friends I have that don't believe in physical discipline have the worst behaved kids.
 
Dakotah said:
I think that how naughty a child is reflects on their parents and their teaching habits. Obviously very stressful for parents at times but firm action without the physicalness should be sufficient enough. Spanking just teaches a kid how to be the same way when they have kids. I have a thing about kids getting smacked. If you teach a kid the right things from the beginning they wouldnt need to be disciplined with spankings.

only my opinion - i am not saying anything directed towards anyone!
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But Dakotah. Ive been so very very bad.

I need discipline :chomp:
 
Dakotah said:
I think that how naughty a child is reflects on their parents and their teaching habits. Obviously very stressful for parents at times but firm action without the physicalness should be sufficient enough. Spanking just teaches a kid how to be the same way when they have kids. I have a thing about kids getting smacked. If you teach a kid the right things from the beginning they wouldnt need to be disciplined with spankings.

only my opinion - i am not saying anything directed towards anyone!
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Do you have kids?
 
unless a child is born knowing how to graciously accept the word no or obey you when you ask or tell them to do something, spanking is very necessary.
 
geminitwins is right. I dont think any of us (seriously) are saying that children need to be spanked for every litle thing and frankly I could count on my hands the times I spanked my kids. My oldest is now serving in Iraq and my youngest is a (fairly) responsible single father. they are both good men who have no tendency to beat others up because they were once spanked.
 
I spank it almost everyday :)



As far as kids go, I wouldn't hit a child unless they did something very bad. Even then it would just be a swat on the but. I'd take shit away. No tv, PS2, friends, phone etc. Little kid stand in the corner type shit.
 
"I only ever hit any one of you kids when it was absolutely necessary in order to put the fear of God back into you because nothing else I had done worked."

words of wisdom from my dad. i follow the same with my kids.

smack on the ass, no problem. you asked for it, and i will deliver.

smack upside the head...that's more rare, and it's never hard. that usually only happens when i'm not in a position to swat the ass. it gets the point across a lot faster though.

do i hit the kids often? not really. they gotta really be pushing it in order to get hit. complete and total defiance is a surefire way to get my hand in motion. like if i tell my son to go to his room and he tells me NO, well, he recieves a swat and off he goes. what happens the next 30 times i tell him to go to his room? he goes right away.

the more you hit your kids, the more resistant they become. i know and understand that, which is why it's the LAST thing i do (unless one has hit the other OR we're in the car, i don't tolerate BS while i'm driving). i can control their actions and behaviors with my voice 99% of the time. when they step into that 1% area, i put them back in line, and we're ok again.

go ahead, swat the kids a time or two, it's good for them. as long as you aren't hitting them out of anger, merely doing it to get a point across and not inflict pain, then everything is ok. sure, their ass may sting for a little while, but they'll get over that. it's good for them, builds character.
 
Gambino said:
i believe in spanking crak's girlfriend
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dude, she'd knock the shit out of you. some dumb bitch was talking shit to her one time and there was a cop standing right there. the dumb bitch grabbed my gf's daughter by the arm and dragged her over to her. gf practically laid the fat bitch out with one punch.

know what the cop did? he asked my gf if she wanted to press charges because the dumb bitch was threatening to harm my gf's daughter.

gf aimed for the fat cow's nose and hit it good. she got that fat cow's nose bleeding. gf isn't a big girl either, she's 5'4" and 115lbs (i swear 12 of those pounds are her breasts).

no charges were filed.
 
Gambino said:
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not in your wettest wildest dreams buddy.

and we both want them smaller. 38DDs just aren't ideal. i'm thinking 36C would be perfect, maybe even 34C. she's got a small frame.
 
The Shadow said:
...with the right woman =-oh yeah
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If "The Shadow" was passing out spankings I would wait in line...:)


For kids...whole different topic... I guess it truly depends on the kid and the situation. Spanking, in my opinion, should only be used as a last resort of disicipline, and only in situations where the child has put him/herself in some sort of danger. I do not agree with parents that use spankings all of the time, to keep it's value of being a serious punishment it needs to be used rarely. Ages for spankings with kids...over the age of 3 and under the age of 6, just when they are in that age span when they are testing their limits and are incapable of reason.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
You reproduced? :worried:
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only once that i'm aware of. other kid is from her ex-husband, who is now 7 and i've been raising since she was 3. her father is worthless. she's my kid really. i put in more effort raising her in 1 year than her father did in 3.
 
Yes, when appropriate, but has to be used with caution. You have to know at what age it's no longer appropriate. My dad slapped me to the ground when I was 13 or 14 and it changed our relationship overnight. It had just been building and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. To this day, I can't bring myself to call him dad. Sad I know.
 
I used to cry, and kick the back of my dad's seat when he'd make me sit in the back during car rides. After several warnings, and my not stopping he pulled over and proceeded to smack my legs while saying "You want to cry, I'll give you a reason to cry".

Result: I never kicked the back of his seat again.
 
Yes! Alot of times i got them when i really didn't deserve it.
I resent those times but if i screwed up i knew what was comming.


RADAR
 
No. I may be old, but I'm not too old to remember what it was like, as a child, to be spanked. I don't think I ever learned a single lesson from being spanked, apart from how to be more sneaky. Parents lashing out in anger did not teach me to be better, it taught me not to get caught. If you want your children's respect for you to be based solely on fear, then by all means spank them.
 
Bunch of fucking backward tards

Most people i know never got spanked... and turned out fine and never caused a problem

those i know that got spanked are stupid basic bastards

fucking soldiers all of em
 
I always said oh no I will never spank.....well that was before I had 3 kids. Do I spank? Yes I do on the rare occasion that it is needed. I feel that if you look back to the "timeout" generation you will see that there is a loss of respect for parents and adults in general.
 
nope.

its unneccessary. my parents would take away my skateboard, or surfboard when i was a little shit.

i'll never forget that once my dad came in with his belt to give me whooping, and he hit the bed instead of me - he even told me to make screaming noises, i was only 8 at the time...but now, i can see that he couldn't bring himself to do it.

i actually have more respect for him now because of that incident.
 
Nope. Never.

Now, i can think of a few adults I would love to spank....
 
Spanky11 said:
nope.

its unneccessary. my parents would take away my skateboard, or surfboard when i was a little shit.

i'll never forget that once my dad came in with his belt to give me whooping, and he hit the bed instead of me - he even told me to make screaming noises, i was only 8 at the time...but now, i can see that he couldn't bring himself to do it.

i actually have more respect for him now because of that incident.
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Ironic with a name like spanky11.
 
I dont like your insolent tone, Robert. You're lucky you arent my child or I would give you such a beating..
 
Gymgurl said:
I always said oh no I will never spank.....well that was before I had 3 kids. Do I spank? Yes I do on the rare occasion that it is needed. I feel that if you look back to the "timeout" generation you will see that there is a loss of respect for parents and adults in general.
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Ditto. World is filled with a generation of overgrown children who think they turned out fine
 
Robert Jan said:
bite my ass
spanking is fucking fascist
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Everything to leftists is fascist.

Except ironically of course their attempts to have every aspect of our lives run by some centralized authority which is actually fascist

Maybe the problem is none of you actually know the definition of the term
 
JerseyArt said:
Everything to leftists is fascist.

Except ironically of course their attempts to have every aspect of our lives run by some centralized authority which is actually fascist

Maybe the problem is none of you actually know the definition of the term
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:rolleyes:

that is the stupidest thing I have read all week.

please die.
 
Spanky11 said:
:rolleyes:

that is the stupidest thing I have read all week.

please die.
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Thanks for demonstrating my point :rolleyes:


Robert pay attention because there is a lesson here for you
 
I am getting a puppy soon.. so I have been reading alot about how to potty train him..

I have had dogs before and have been successfull, but less was at stake... I have a nice home now, less time to get it done in, etc...

Read a potty training book for dogs, and then come back here and give your opinion on wether or not you should spank. Not saying dog=kid, but some of the same psychology and principals apply...

Even though most of it is common sense... it was interesting - the insights the book had.
 
Spank them when they are young, gain their respect,
and you won't have to beat them, bail them or bury them as teens.
 
The Ejaculator said:
I am getting a puppy soon.. so I have been reading alot about how to potty train him..

I have had dogs before and have been successfull, but less was at stake... I have a nice home now, less time to get it done in, etc...

Read a potty training book for dogs, and then come back here and give your opinion on wether or not you should spank. Not saying dog=kid, but some of the same psychology and principals apply...

Even though most of it is common sense... it was interesting - the insights the book had.
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THe dogs here mind me and me only. They run off down the street when my daughter or sister lets them out. All I have to do is look at them, they don't dare get out of my sight. THe reason. THey know I'll beat their ass with a belt if they do. It's better than them getting run over. I have their respect, my sister and daughter do not. That respect is based on fear. Just the way it is. I have let my guard down lately and I've noticed how they're taking advantage of it, dogs are just like people in that regard.
 
JerseyArt said:
Everything to leftists is fascist.

Except ironically of course their attempts to have every aspect of our lives run by some centralized authority which is actually fascist

Maybe the problem is none of you actually know the definition of the term
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Maybe the problem is you dont know what the flying fuck you are talking about

Who says im even lefty?
 
biteme said:
THe dogs here mind me and me only. They run off down the street when my daughter or sister lets them out. All I have to do is look at them, they don't dare get out of my sight. THe reason. THey know I'll beat their ass with a belt if they do. It's better than them getting run over. I have their respect, my sister and daughter do not. That respect is based on fear. Just the way it is. I have let my guard down lately and I've noticed how they're taking advantage of it, dogs are just like people in that regard.
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That's one way to go about it. But, like I said - read the book to get a fresh perspective on that... You'll be amazed..
 
What did the book on "Potty Training" say? We've got a baby right now.
 
Y_Lifter said:
Spank them when they are young, gain their respect,
and you won't have to beat them, bail them or bury them as teens.
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Dont you people understand!?

Is that how you want your child to respect you!? because you beat him if he does not?

I respect my parents because I know they are good people and they have done a lot for me and would do even more.

Not because I get the belt when i dont

I suppose you all have retarded kids, or plan to

Which is probably actually fairly accurate.
 
The Ejaculator said:
That's one way to go about it. But, like I said - read the book to get a fresh perspective on that... You'll be amazed..
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My sister is an expert on dogs. She's 43 and has raised them her whole life. She has dogs instead of kids. She's not doing something right. Because they don't mind her worth a damn.
 
biteme said:
My sister is an expert on dogs. She's 43 and has raised them her whole life. She has dogs instead of kids. She's not doing something right. Because they don't mind her worth a damn.
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Stop being so damned closed minded and read the book... or look it up online...

Potty Training Puppies...


I am not saying it is right, it is just a different perspective and I think the insight it provides is interesting...
 
I support spanking parents who spank.

I could make like a spanking delivery service

in a van with a logo and name on it
 
The Ejaculator said:
Stop being so damned closed minded and read the book... or look it up online...

Potty Training Puppies...


I am not saying it is right, it is just a different perspective and I think the insight it provides is interesting...
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I'll read it. I'm far from close minded. I'm a socialist democrat. But, Dr. Spock was full of shit.
 
Robert Jan said:
Maybe the problem is you dont know what the flying fuck you are talking about

Who says im even lefty?
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Im not the one throwing around the fascist word inappropriately.

There isnt much about fascism that doesnt mirror most leftist agendas. It all comes down to "we know whats best for you, and your going to do it, by force if necessary"
 
JerseyArt said:
Im not the one throwing around the fascist word inappropriately.

There isnt much about fascism that doesnt mirror most leftist agendas. It all comes down to "we know whats best for you, and your going to do it, by force if necessary"
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You mean just like spanking

You are not to do that, because if you do, I will beat you

how educational is that

it doesnt teach somebody to be responsible it only teaches them to be sneaky
 
I love the controversy. "To spank or not to spank"

I always said that I would never spank my daughter, but I have on occasion when she was younger, to keep her from getting hurt. I don't know, maybe there was a better way, but at the time, I just didn't want her to get run over by a car. She has no fear of me because she knows I'm easy and that I won't spank her. Consequently she walks all over me at times. Raising children is very hard.
 
I agree with puddle monkey on the fact that the friends, relatives, and friends of relatives that don't spank, have the worst behaved kids out of all of them...

I will spank, but only when called for. Some kids a small tap will work and the rest of their lives they will behave. Then you have my niece!! It doesn't matter, for some reason she is a little shit!! She is only 4 but just does not pay attention to authority. She is very smart and can figure anything out, but I have a feeling that she "figured" out her parents and keeps on doing what she wants because they have eased up on the spankings since they think it didnt' work

Hell I don't know, i dont' have kids yet... some day when I do, i'll look this up and read what kinda of BS i wrote

Whiskey
 
Robert..

I'm betting your 1-3 year old toddler will be so intelligent that s/he will be able to understand your detailed explanation for not touching the stove or runnning in the store or street when you sit them down for riviting conversation ..
 
biteme said:
I love the controversy. "To spank or not to spank"

I always said that I would never spank my daughter, but I have on occasion when she was younger, to keep her from getting hurt. I don't know, maybe there was a better way, but at the time, I just didn't want her to get run over by a car. She has no fear of me because she knows I'm easy and that I won't spank her. Consequently she walks all over me at times. Raising children is very hard.
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Robert, I dont have any children, so my opinions on the topic are purely theoretical.

But I think its naive to imagine you can raise a child without any spanking whatsoever. I dont think it should be hard, it isnt necessary for it to be. Generally just being startled is sufficient to ingrain the lesson. I also think it needs to be infrequent, and not the first resort done because of frustration.

But I agree with the others who point out that children of parents who dont spank are generally incredibly spoiled, undisciplined, and generally just not well behaved. They tend to run wild and do as they please, annoying all others around them.
 
You guys should come to Europe (but not Ireland - i was spanked/beaten heavily) and see the kids here - it just takes incredible patience - kids are much calmer. Spanking is another word for bullying.
 
JerseyArt said:
Robert, I dont have any children, so my opinions on the topic are purely theoretical.

But I think its naive to imagine you can raise a child without any spanking whatsoever. I dont think it should be hard, it isnt necessary for it to be. Generally just being startled is sufficient to ingrain the lesson. I also think it needs to be infrequent, and not the first resort done because of frustration.

But I agree with the others who point out that children of parents who dont spank are generally incredibly spoiled, undisciplined, and generally just not well behaved. They tend to run wild and do as they please, annoying all others around them.
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It is naive to be giving advice on a topic that you have zero practical experience in, not just limitted: zero.

I have three boys, 3, 6, and 10 years old. I speak, their world pauses. The best brothers I have seen at any age, constantly helping each other, constantly sharing, it is a thing that inspires the adults around them. My 10 year old just last night asked if he could read for the other two boys before they went to sleep.

The failing of most parents is laziness, not the sparing of the paddle. I tell the boys, even our youngest, what the law is. It is not open for debate. I have always and do always explain very clearly ONCE what the case is, and what the consequences are, and ALWAYS end the statement like this:

"I will not explain this again. I will not warn you, there are no second chances. You know what to do, if you dont do it, you have CHOSEN the consequences." and I always live up to my word.

Where 99% of parents fail? They lie to their kids. The give the speach I just gave and laziness prevents them from delivering on their promise: they warn the kids over and over and say things like "Just one more time johnny and I will... "

Horseshit. You teach them to distrust your word. You might be able to fix that over the course of a childs lifetime. I doubt it.
 
ChefWide said:
It is naive to be giving advice on a topic that you have zero practical experience in, not just limitted: zero.

I have three boys, 3, 6, and 10 years old. I speak, their world pauses. The best brothers I have seen at any age, constantly helping each other, constantly sharing, it is a thing that inspires the adults around them. My 10 year old just last night asked if he could read for the other two boys before they went to sleep.

The failing of most parents is laziness, not the sparing of the paddle. I tell the boys, even our youngest, what the law is. It is not open for debate. I have always and do always explain very clearly ONCE what the case is, and what the consequences are, and ALWAYS end the statement like this:

"I will not explain this again. I will not warn you, there are no second chances. You know what to do, if you dont do it, you have CHOSEN the consequences." and I always live up to my word.

Where 99% of parents fail? They lie to their kids. The give the speach I just gave and laziness prevents them from delivering on their promise: they warn the kids over and over and say things like "Just one more time johnny and I will... "

Horseshit. You teach them to distrust your word. You might be able to fix that over the course of a childs lifetime. I doubt it.
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I don't disagree Chef. I was saying the exact same thing to a poster here a few nights back. I dont believe in ultimatums and empty threats. But if you tell a kid your going to do soemthing, then you have to follow through.

My sis is of the opposite view (inp practice if not theory), although she doesnt believe in spanking either. As a result no one else will baby sit her kids when shes away but me. We have fun, play etc et al. But they know they need to listen. Not through yelling or spanking, but just tone of voice is generally sufficient. That and they know when I warn them they will need to spend some time alone in the bedroom if they continbue misbehaving I mean it, no comprimise and no pleading accepted.
 
Parents using Idle Threats are the Bain of Childrearing IMO..

Do not EVER make a threat of consequence that you are not 110% prepared to follow up on when(not if) the child makes the choice to press your authority.
They will, it is only natural.

It only takes one or 2 times early on for a lovely family dinner to be ended or interupted by one patent or both walking out to the car with the child after making that promise of consequence if the child misbehaves. Or cancelling a trip or outing.

They need to understand that Mommy and Daddy don't play..
And if you let one threat slide, you will need to follow thru many times to get back on track.

When the child is very young and is unable to understand talking and reason, a quick smack/pop on the hand or bottom gets their attention when you say NO to them.


As they grow older, this attention grabber sticks in their heads subconsiously,
so you should have no need to spank them after say... 5 or 6 and begin using the action/consequence 100 guarantee method.

Also no one has mentioned Positive reenforcement as a way to change behavior.
Make a Huge Huge deal over good behavior.. After all, we are only animals really.

This is not to say that there are NO Children out there that will naturally behave themselves from day one with little negative enforcement. Just that MOST Children do not do this by themselves with no parenting skills..
 
ChefWide said:
It is naive to be giving advice on a topic that you have zero practical experience in, not just limitted: zero.

I have three boys, 3, 6, and 10 years old. I speak, their world pauses. The best brothers I have seen at any age, constantly helping each other, constantly sharing, it is a thing that inspires the adults around them. My 10 year old just last night asked if he could read for the other two boys before they went to sleep.

The failing of most parents is laziness, not the sparing of the paddle. I tell the boys, even our youngest, what the law is. It is not open for debate. I have always and do always explain very clearly ONCE what the case is, and what the consequences are, and ALWAYS end the statement like this:

"I will not explain this again. I will not warn you, there are no second chances. You know what to do, if you dont do it, you have CHOSEN the consequences." and I always live up to my word.

Where 99% of parents fail? They lie to their kids. The give the speach I just gave and laziness prevents them from delivering on their promise: they warn the kids over and over and say things like "Just one more time johnny and I will... "

Horseshit. You teach them to distrust your word. You might be able to fix that over the course of a childs lifetime. I doubt it.
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Definitely some truth to this. This is where I have failed miserably as a parent.
 
ChefWide said:
It is naive to be giving advice on a topic that you have zero practical experience in, not just limitted: zero.

I have three boys, 3, 6, and 10 years old. I speak, their world pauses. The best brothers I have seen at any age, constantly helping each other, constantly sharing, it is a thing that inspires the adults around them. My 10 year old just last night asked if he could read for the other two boys before they went to sleep.

The failing of most parents is laziness, not the sparing of the paddle. I tell the boys, even our youngest, what the law is. It is not open for debate. I have always and do always explain very clearly ONCE what the case is, and what the consequences are, and ALWAYS end the statement like this:

"I will not explain this again. I will not warn you, there are no second chances. You know what to do, if you dont do it, you have CHOSEN the consequences." and I always live up to my word.

Where 99% of parents fail? They lie to their kids. The give the speach I just gave and laziness prevents them from delivering on their promise: they warn the kids over and over and say things like "Just one more time johnny and I will... "

Horseshit. You teach them to distrust your word. You might be able to fix that over the course of a childs lifetime. I doubt it.
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This is exactly how I want my future husband to behave towards our children.
 
I'm a teacher, and i beleive in spanking. I feel that if more parents would spank their kids, then my job would be a lot easier.
 
I was spanked...so was my brother and sister. End result: we turned out to be smart and successful. Interesting....
 
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