dips, pushups, pullups

[spk55]

an unemployed buddy of mine asked me if doing 100 pullups and a ton of ab work on mon, wed, and fri, and then doing 100 dips and 300 pushups on tues thurs sat will build him up.
he said he seen on the military sites how they train doing these movements and they sure looked ripped and built. i told him about a site i heard about. stewsmith.com. he went to this site and seen navy seals looking very fit and ripped, so he is going to try it. now the seals and rangers do a lot more reps on these movements, so he said he'll start with these numbers and go from there. any opinions on this kind of training?almost like gymnastic training and those dudes are built..
can you get built doing these movements, and whats the min number of these 4 exercises you need to get that ripped look?
i didnt have an answer for him.

 

[gstacker]

I do all three back to back to back in the morning after doing 30-45 mins of light cardio.... Do it bout 4-5 times a week and weight train in the evening.... I don't do the volume ur talking but I do 4 sets.... 5 wide grip pull ups 10 dips 10 leg rises rest and then repeat. Then I do abb work... It keeps me pretty fit.... Calastetics is the shit, but I don't know bout getting huge but ya u prolly look big the better the shape u get in.... My friends think I'm lying when I tell em I weight 185lbs lol

anyways I wouldn't just do calastetics unless I was in jail or somthing but ya I think they have there place.

 

[spk55]

think he's after the super cut bruce lee look. not huge look at all. just fit..and cut looking.

 

[gstacker]

Then ya calastetics can deff ripp u up IMO

 

[Tblock1]

Lol those Navy Seals hit up lots of lifting too, and a lot of them are on the roids. I'm planning on going for Army Rangers which are kind of like Seals out of water and I was reading lots of stories about their lifting and the roids they do. Private contractors (ie mercenaries) are notorious for pooping d-bol to kill boredom. That routine will get him pretty lean and mean though, before I join the army I'm going to have to go to a routine like that with no lifting.

 

[needtogetaas]

I went threw reg basic training,air born training,rip training,path finder and so much more. When it comes to army training the only thing they give a flying fuck about in endurance. They want you to be able to go and go and go and go. That is all they give a fuck about. Nothing and I mean nothing to do with looks. Yes when you train like this and for this readon you will lose wai though.

 

[binö]

Lol those Navy Seals hit up lots of lifting too, and a lot of them are on the roids. I'm planning on going for Army Rangers which are kind of like Seals out of water and I was reading lots of stories about their lifting and the roids they do. Private contractors (ie mercenaries) are notorious for pooping d-bol to kill boredom. That routine will get him pretty lean and mean though, before I join the army I'm going to have to go to a routine like that with no lifting.

bro i'm gonna have to disagree.
how are you gonna stay jacked eating mre's and hiking day in and out?
let alone work out with weights?
not gonna work out in basic, not gonna work out on long assignments, not gonna be eating like you are used to, gonna be running/hiking/humping gear...i fail to see how steroids could figure into being a ranger/seal/any sort of SF.
lean and mean not bulky and joosered

 

[Tblock1]

bro i'm gonna have to disagree.
how are you gonna stay jacked eating mre's and hiking day in and out?
let alone work out with weights?
not gonna work out in basic, not gonna work out on long assignments, not gonna be eating like you are used to, gonna be running/hiking/humping gear...i fail to see how steroids could figure into being a ranger/seal/any sort of SF.
lean and mean not bulky and joosered

I agree with you, you need to be lean and mean not bulky, but I have heard over and over that SOME OF the bigger Seals do steroids to keep their muscle mass and stay agressive. For sure though the private contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan are juicing up and pumping iron to pass the time. They do have time to lift 2-3 days a week too as long as they are not deployed.

 

[bblazer]

No offense, but I love how everyone loves to put the SEALS on some sort of idealistic pedestal. The Navy sure has done a great marketing job. They are good at what they do, no doubt, but their exercise programs are not some magic system designed to make you a friggin monster of destruction. In fact, if you ever watch shown about them on TV you'll notice that the average build is rather lean and certainly not huge massive muscles. These guys need to move like linebackers in the NFL.

And remember when the SEALS or Delta or the Rangers call 911 the Air Force Pararescue is who comes to save their asses.

B-

 

[spk55]

bblazer
i dont think its anykind of a marketing job building up the seals. the seals are what they are.. the elite as are the green berets, rangers etc. maybe you can squat 500# and they can do 250#.. but they also can do pullups till they puke, run till they puke swim miles and miles in cold ocean water, stay up all night and still shoot an asprin at 100 meters. these guys are elite man. sure watch the beginners on tv may give you an idea that some guys arnt making it.. but the ones that do, i got my money on them in the alley, and at knocking out a tank at 1000meters.i bet cause some guys are strong they think a swim and some running and pushups are a piece of cake.. thing is they do thousands of them along with tons of rope climbing obstical coursetraining .. man the list goes on and on.can you swim 50 meters underwater after a ton of exercises with no sleep?
these guys are gods!!

 

[bblazer]

bblazer
i dont think its anykind of a marketing job building up the seals. the seals are what they are.. the elite as are the green berets, rangers etc. maybe you can squat 500# and they can do 250#.. but they also can do pullups till they puke, run till they puke swim miles and miles in cold ocean water, stay up all night and still shoot an asprin at 100 meters. these guys are elite man. sure watch the beginners on tv may give you an idea that some guys arnt making it.. but the ones that do, i got my money on them in the alley, and at knocking out a tank at 1000meters.i bet cause some guys are strong they think a swim and some running and pushups are a piece of cake.. thing is they do thousands of them along with tons of rope climbing obstical coursetraining .. man the list goes on and on.can you swim 50 meters underwater after a ton of exercises with no sleep?
these guys are gods!!

I wasn't saying that they weren't tough. They are.

And yes, the Navy uses them as a marking tool for recruiting purposes. There was even a Time magazine article about it interviewing the Admiral inn charge of recruitment who explained that they do exactly that. As a matter of fact, it wasn't until abut 1980'ish that they even aknowledged who were members of some of the teams. It was an Olympic Winter games where one of our bobsled teams was crewed by a couple of members of the teams, and they identified them on air as being SEALS.

But they are extremely far from being gods. What they are is total professionals. Trained to do something that most can't do. Before you start throwing around talk like that I suggest you read up on groups like the ROK Special Forces, the Royal Commandos, or the Air Force Pararescue teams. I would even venture to say that the French Foreign Legion training is at least as rigorous if not more so.

B-

 

[spk55]

like i said... these seals green berets rangers...ROK Special Forces, the Royal Commandos, or the Air Force Pararescue . are all gods. these dudes can do it all. these guys can run further that you and i, swim further. do more pullps in a day than you do in a week. these guys are the best. of the best.15 mile hikes with heavy back packs on. the swim 5 miles.. they aint doing 3 sets of curls or a few sets of squats. theses are gods.

 

[Tblock1]

Dude I'm going to have to agree with Bblazer, SEALs are all about media image. When I was younger I wanted to be a SEAL, I was on a swim team and loved running till I puked and all that. Then as I looked more into it I realized that SEALs are just what they seem, naval commandos. They are badasses to be sure and I've watched some stuff on their training and it is pretty intense but they are not any better than their army brothers, and as a matter of fact, units like Delta are far more better trained than them when it comes to most of the "movie" type of stuff. I eventually want to try out for army rangers because as I looked into it more they have far better run times and rucksack times than SEALs. Also Bblazer is right about air force pararescue, they are some awesome shit. I looked at what I would have to do to make their units too, and the coolest part is that you get a civilian pararescue license after you get out of their units so you could move onto search and rescue at a national park or something cool like that.

 

[gstacker]

Bla bla bla bla jus throw some dips n pull ups in ur routine.... I don't care if ur Rambo or chuck Norris 0r g eye Joe lol

 

[Tblock1]

Bla bla bla bla jus throw some dips n pull ups in ur routine.... I don't care if ur Rambo or chuck Norris 0r g eye Joe lol

Do you think doing all those dips and pullups will cause overtraining in addition to a weightlifting routine? Just curious because I'm thinking about adding a lot of pullups and pushups to my routine too....

 

[gstacker]

It depends on u mostly, the original post had a whole lot so ya but what I do I think it works out great for my goals... I wana stay semi light be strong an have endurance... Depends on ur goals.... All out body builder wouldn't do all that IMO

Keep in mind unweighted dips for me are like jumping jacks, when I hit chest I'm adding at least 100lbs for reps n sets..
So calastetics is jus a form of cardio for the most part.

 

[binö]

excessive pullups, combined with benching, is too much for my shoulders and elbows.
dips too, they strain my rotar cuff and i'm real cautious doing them.

and about the military SF arguing...IMO, i think if you asked any of the forementioned SF members (delta/seals/etc)
to look at this thread and give their opinion they would laugh that people who make claims w/o having been a SF solider.
i'd guess they'd respect their fellow SF bros and what they endure

 

[Tblock1]

excessive pullups, combined with benching, is too much for my shoulders and elbows.
dips too, they strain my rotar cuff and i'm real cautious doing them.

and about the military SF arguing...IMO, i think if you asked any of the forementioned SF members (delta/seals/etc)
to look at this thread and give their opinion they would laugh that people who make claims w/o having been a SF solider.
i'd guess they'd respect their fellow SF bros and what they endure

I don't know...maybe special forces would, but SEALs and rangers and other special ops kind of hate each other( in a good competitive kind of way) until they are out of their units. In the army the opinion of SEALs is not very high. However I would agree that they would laugh their ass off at those huge discussions on like video game forums and stuff like that about who is better when the people have no fucking idea lol. I talked to a guy in his 70's who had done SEALs, rangers, and special forces, going through each of their training and all that, and he said his favorite was special forces(or green berets). He said it allowed you to stay with the same team of twelve guys and build lots of comraderie and all that. Lol this whole discussion is kindo f stupid though since no one has been in any of those units....

 

[binö]

I don't know...maybe special forces would, but SEALs and rangers and other special ops kind of hate each other( in a good competitive kind of way) until they are out of their units. In the army the opinion of SEALs is not very high. However I would agree that they would laugh their ass off at those huge discussions on like video game forums and stuff like that about who is better when the people have no fucking idea lol. I talked to a guy in his 70's who had done SEALs, rangers, and special forces, going through each of their training and all that, and he said his favorite was special forces(or green berets). He said it allowed you to stay with the same team of twelve guys and build lots of comraderie and all that. Lol this whole discussion is kindo f stupid though since no one has been in any of those units....

my dad can beat your dad's ass!! is what this arguing reminds me off.
and yea the green berets do seem like a cut above the rest, it's like they are the ultimate soliders but also statesmen as well.
they build nations instead of blowing them up...reading about their basic training...lotsa courses had a 75-90% fail rate lol