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did tren tranform your body?

theblondebomber said:
I pretty much agree.dont underestimate the fat.hey as of today im 3.7% BF.its crazy.i started carbing up today for my show sat.and my skin was about to explose.veins on top of veins.tomorrow illl pull some water and post pics of what 3.7% bf looks like.i cant believe its me.ive put a guy and a girl competitor on my diet after theirs failed.after one week they are excited as hell with the vascularity because of sudden bf drop.im pumpede for the show.ill post pics with my 3 trophys.ok my 2 trophies.maybe ill get 3.LOL!
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I tried looking for your diet a few posts back but I could not find it, would you mind posting it again, thanks.
 
william rand said:
I tried looking for your diet a few posts back but I could not find it, would you mind posting it again, thanks.
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Here's a typical day for my keto diet bro

7am - proten shake with peanut butter + crushed Almonds

9am Chicken breast

11am 150g Cooked beef

1am Tuna salad (olive oil)

2.30am 100g Nuts

4am Chiocken Breast

5.30am Protein shake

TRAIN

7.30pm Proten shake with PB+ almonds (sometimes 10g Oatmeal if im feeling depleted)

8pm Chicken Salad

9.30pm 100g nuts

11pm Proten shake with crushed almonds
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
how much you weighing in this pic bro, estimation? height?
looking awesome

peace
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Off-season was 225 in that pic was 192 and 6 feet tall. I did was not as big as I wanted to be because I really didn't get a chance to bulk. I was overseas for work for two months and didn't touch a weight and then when I got back I had to start dieting so I plan to look much better next go around.
 
I changed this a bit, I went to 3 days low carbs one day high, but this was the diet I started with. The numbers are messed up cause I copied and pasted it but you can see what each meal consisted of. On low carb days the only carb I had was broccoli and on high carb days I replaced the broccoli with yams. So less than 100 carbs on low days, most coming after I work out and on high days it was about 150-200. And myu protein moved up to over 300g.



Training days Non training days

Cardio on empty stomach

Meal 1 Fat Carbs Protein Cals Meal 1 Fat Carbs Protein Cals
8 oz chicken 6 0 44 240 1/2 cup oatmeal 5 26 5 140
2 Tsp. NPB 16 7 9 190 50g whey 5 6 46 260
1 T. Flax oil 11 0 0 110
TOTAL 22 7 53 430 TOTAL 21 32 51 510

Meal 2 Meal 2
8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
2 oz. yam 0 12 2 50 4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
TOTAL 18 15.5 73.5 526 TOTAL 14 27.5 52.5 435

Meal 3 Meal 3
8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240 8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381
4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100 4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
TOTAL 14 27.5 52.5 435 TOTAL 18 27.5 75.5 576

Meal 4 Meal 4
1/2 cup oatmeal 5 26 5 140 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
50g whey 5 6 46 260 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
1 T. Flax oil 11 0 0 110 Brocoli 0 6 2 27
TOTAL 21 32 51 510 TOTAL 14 9.5 50.5 362

TRAIN

Meal 5 Meal 5
50g whey 5 6 46 260 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
25g dextrose 0 25 0 100 Brocoli 0 6 2 27
600mgs ALA
10g glutimine
TOTAL 5 31 46 360 TOTAL 14 9.5 50.5 362

Meal 6 Meal 6
8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381 8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 2 Tsp NPB 16 7 9 190
Brocoli 0 6 2 27
TOTAL 18 9.5 73.5 503 TOTAL 26 7 76 571

DAILY 98 122.5 349.5 2764 DAILY 107 113 356 2816
 
I posted a diet in the tread but it is not my 3 days low 1 day high carb diet. I am at work and it is at home. Plus it is in excel. So if you can send me your email address I will send you the attachment. This diet will get you ripped, I guarentee it. It is exactly what I did for my show. I might not be able to get back to you till monday cause I am leaving town but I will. Take care.

I tried to PM you this but your box is full.
 
mrperfect said:
I posted a diet in the tread but it is not my 3 days low 1 day high carb diet. I am at work and it is at home. Plus it is in excel. So if you can send me your email address I will send you the attachment. This diet will get you ripped, I guarentee it. It is exactly what I did for my show. I might not be able to get back to you till monday cause I am leaving town but I will. Take care.

I tried to PM you this but your box is full.
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Thanks Bor, I cl;eared my inbox. Email. address is [email protected]
 
jagerbombme said:
morning is fine bro. once ed is fine, some people actually do do twice, but once ed is working fine for me. people that go eod i notice have increased sides big time
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Hey guys, I have used Tren many times and I have to admit that I have never felt it kick in and drop off over hours of time. Tren should not do that, even tren ace. Maybe several days or a week or more one might notice it but it shouldn't matter when you shoot it, pre workout, post workout, moring, night. Slin, now that is a different story. Its all in your heads about the tren. I have never witnessed this nor heard of it.
 
mrperfect said:
Hey guys, I have used Tren many times and I have to admit that I have never felt it kick in and drop off over hours of time. Tren should not do that, even tren ace. Maybe several days or a week or more one might notice it but it shouldn't matter when you shoot it, pre workout, post workout, moring, night. Slin, now that is a different story. Its all in your heads about the tren. I have never witnessed this nor heard of it.
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There is a really old tren ace thread here... Zyglamail I think wrote it... He came up with a graph that plotted 75mg tren ace ED vs 150 EOD in terms of blood level consistency

With the EOD dosing, there was some upper range fluctuation however the ED dosing was very even.

I've believed that the even blood levels would help reduce sides but never considered uneven blood levels might create a "crash" perception - however minimal the fluctuation. I don't think it would be appreciable but I'm taking a shot in the dark.

Liked the diet sample you posted as well, very thorough
 
cobracock1979 said:
Here's a typical day for my keto diet bro

7am - proten shake with peanut butter + crushed Almonds

9am Chicken breast

11am 150g Cooked beef

1am Tuna salad (olive oil)

2.30am 100g Nuts

4am Chiocken Breast

5.30am Protein shake

TRAIN

7.30pm Proten shake with PB+ almonds (sometimes 10g Oatmeal if im feeling depleted)

8pm Chicken Salad

9.30pm 100g nuts

11pm Proten shake with crushed almonds
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dont waste your almonds in your shake.they go in a baggy to carry with you.to eat when needed.
 
mrperfect said:
I changed this a bit, I went to 3 days low carbs one day high, but this was the diet I started with. The numbers are messed up cause I copied and pasted it but you can see what each meal consisted of. On low carb days the only carb I had was broccoli and on high carb days I replaced the broccoli with yams. So less than 100 carbs on low days, most coming after I work out and on high days it was about 150-200. And myu protein moved up to over 300g.



Training days Non training days

Cardio on empty stomach

Meal 1 Fat Carbs Protein Cals Meal 1 Fat Carbs Protein Cals
8 oz chicken 6 0 44 240 1/2 cup oatmeal 5 26 5 140
2 Tsp. NPB 16 7 9 190 50g whey 5 6 46 260
1 T. Flax oil 11 0 0 110
TOTAL 22 7 53 430 TOTAL 21 32 51 510

Meal 2 Meal 2
8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
2 oz. yam 0 12 2 50 4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
TOTAL 18 15.5 73.5 526 TOTAL 14 27.5 52.5 435

Meal 3 Meal 3
8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240 8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381
4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100 4 oz. yam 0 24 4 100
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
TOTAL 14 27.5 52.5 435 TOTAL 18 27.5 75.5 576

Meal 4 Meal 4
1/2 cup oatmeal 5 26 5 140 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
50g whey 5 6 46 260 1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
1 T. Flax oil 11 0 0 110 Brocoli 0 6 2 27
TOTAL 21 32 51 510 TOTAL 14 9.5 50.5 362

TRAIN

Meal 5 Meal 5
50g whey 5 6 46 260 8 oz. Chicken 6 0 44 240
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95
25g dextrose 0 25 0 100 Brocoli 0 6 2 27
600mgs ALA
10g glutimine
TOTAL 5 31 46 360 TOTAL 14 9.5 50.5 362

Meal 6 Meal 6
8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381 8 oz. eye of round 10 0 67 381
1 Tsp. NPB 8 3.5 4.5 95 2 Tsp NPB 16 7 9 190
Brocoli 0 6 2 27
TOTAL 18 9.5 73.5 503 TOTAL 26 7 76 571

DAILY 98 122.5 349.5 2764 DAILY 107 113 356 2816
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way too much red meat.id only eat 3 solid meals a day to get shredded.
 
theblondebomber said:
way too much red meat.id only eat 3 solid meals a day to get shredded.
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Bro,

I dont like almonds AT ALL!!! Thats why i buy the crushed ones and add to shake. You think cashews aere a decent sub?
 
cobracock1979 said:
Beachstud,
What kinda diet you got Bro. Pics look Rockin!
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Thanks. All of these pics are from at least a year ago. I look about the same now, maybe not quite as jacked. I think those pics were from towards the end of a Test/Eq cyc.

Honestly my diet has never been anything elaborate, then or now. To get lean I typically eat a shitload of shakes all day (until I'm nauseous) and half portions of the meals I do eat. Throw in some cardio and really consistent workouts and I get to about 10% bf. To get lower I'll have to actually step up in the diet dept.

Is everyone already aware of the trick of using a slin pin, back-loaded with tren for the ed injects? The needle is so small there's no scarring, etc. You just have to make sure you sink it so that you're IM not Sub-Q.
 
william rand said:
thanks to the guys who posted the diets,

I am taking notes and will make some modifications immediately ...thanks again
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Hahaha,

Bomber stop making me suffer man!!! Looking forward to these pics bro, what were you last pics? about 5.5%?
 
cobracock1979 said:
Hahaha,

Bomber stop making me suffer man!!! Looking forward to these pics bro, what were you last pics? about 5.5%?
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bout there.im a little depleted today but im carbing up now.ill weigh in about 7pm hope to weigh 181-182.long as im sliced and diced.the legs still need to be drier.but this is the best i can do now.
 
my normal diet

meal 1
4 organic whole eggs/4egg whites/1tblspn smartbalance butter overeasy/jalapeno

meal 2
6oz chicken breast/ 1/4 cup almonds/ couple peppers/ broccoli or grean beans

meal 3 pre workout
6oz chicken breast/ 1 slice ezekiel bread OR 1/2 cup oats/ greens again/ peppers

meal 4 post
whey isolate 46g p/ 1/2 cup oats/ 3 egg whites

meal 5
chicken breast/ 1 slice ezekiel/ serving anpb/ greens

meal 6
whey isolate with almonds or anpb
 
theblondebomber said:
way too much red meat.id only eat 3 solid meals a day to get shredded.
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I have never heard of only eating 3 meals a day to get shreaded but if it works for you thats all that matters. My guess is though that you would be able to hold on to a lot more muscle eating more meals.

As far as the red meat goes. I very the amount. The eye of round I eat has the same amount of fat that a chicken breast does and the red meat contains creatine and has some other advantages as well. I add and remove red meat as needed. At first I was told to add it once every few days and as time passed I found that I could eat it everyday. Some guys that were as lean as me but bigger dieted on eye of round alone, no checken or fish. Its cheap and lean.
 
Ill check it out, havent been eating much red meat at all..maybe a porterhouse once in a blue. Only chicken, fish, and turkey every day. Ill throw it in a couple times a week and see how it goes. Hittin up the supermarket tonight!
 
jagerbombme said:
my normal diet

meal 1
4 organic whole eggs/4egg whites/1tblspn smartbalance butter overeasy/jalapeno

meal 2
6oz chicken breast/ 1/4 cup almonds/ couple peppers/ broccoli or grean beans

meal 3 pre workout
6oz chicken breast/ 1 slice ezekiel bread OR 1/2 cup oats/ greens again/ peppers

meal 4 post
whey isolate 46g p/ 1/2 cup oats/ 3 egg whites

meal 5
chicken breast/ 1 slice ezekiel/ serving anpb/ greens

meal 6
whey isolate with almonds or anpb
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actually this is my diet i'm trying to cut on
 
mrperfect said:
Off-season was 225 in that pic was 192 and 6 feet tall. I did was not as big as I wanted to be because I really didn't get a chance to bulk. I was overseas for work for two months and didn't touch a weight and then when I got back I had to start dieting so I plan to look much better next go around.
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whats your approx bf offseason when your about 225lbs, just curious cause im plannign to compete in the next year or so, im about 230lbs 5"10 about 10% BF
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
whats your approx bf offseason when your about 225lbs, just curious cause im plannign to compete in the next year or so, im about 230lbs 5"10 about 10% BF
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I haven't checked my body fat in years. I go by the mirror. I don't get fat in the off-season, just not cut. My opinion is that the only real way to get your body fat measured is using the underwater method which most of us do not have accesss to. I did a years ago. So with that said, I don't mess with calipers, to inconsistant and just plays with your mind like the scale. If you are at 10% at your weight and hight you are doing GREAT!!! COMPETE!!!
 
mrperfect said:
I have never heard of only eating 3 meals a day to get shreaded but if it works for you thats all that matters. My guess is though that you would be able to hold on to a lot more muscle eating more meals.

As far as the red meat goes. I very the amount. The eye of round I eat has the same amount of fat that a chicken breast does and the red meat contains creatine and has some other advantages as well. I add and remove red meat as needed. At first I was told to add it once every few days and as time passed I found that I could eat it everyday. Some guys that were as lean as me but bigger dieted on eye of round alone, no checken or fish. Its cheap and lean.
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everyone i talk to (and i mean everyone) uses your same argument.no offense.your not alone.weight lifters and bodybuilders are so scared of losing that "size".right now i weigh 180lb.at 3.5% bf.if me and you walk3ed into a public place with tanktops on the whole room would look at me and you may outweigh me by 20-30- lbs.this is a fack.ive experienced it the past month.im 43 and dont like the attention i did when i was 25.its a doulbe edged sword.anyway no more than 2 8% servings of red meat.or go ahead and do it and let me know how you look in 4 weeks.then you'll listen.
 
It was the only steriod I ever took that cut me up sick. I was so cut you think someone took a razor to me. Did you guys find it to shed fat off as well? It leaned me out nice at 75mg eod.
 
any of you guys experience a decent amt of body hair growth from tren?? all my friends say, nah bro, its just a lot of test that does it to you. (im on f'n 75mg/eod of prop!) and 75mg/eod of tren. ive ren test enth before also and got some body hair, but its def from the tren. nothing crazy, but its starting to grow on my traps now... u guys get any hair growth from tren? (even if u run tren by itself for some reason?)
 
P4D2A022 said:
any of you guys experience a decent amt of body hair growth from tren?? all my friends say, nah bro, its just a lot of test that does it to you. (im on f'n 75mg/eod of prop!) and 75mg/eod of tren. ive ren test enth before also and got some body hair, but its def from the tren. nothing crazy, but its starting to grow on my traps now... u guys get any hair growth from tren? (even if u run tren by itself for some reason?)
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No but test does that for sure. I was doing 800mg of enth. I was hairless before I ran 800mg versus 500mg i did first.
 
damn so that extra 300mg ew made a big difference?? how the hell do some ppl run like 1500mg+ a wk. probably look like gorillas
 
Stregnth first week
vascularity first week
Fat loss, throughout however seems more is starting to come off in weeks 4/5

this is tren a run, 50mg ed weeks 1-3
75mg ed weeks 4 and beyond
 
well I just finished hanging around with Mr. trenace and I must say I was not particularly impressed. I experienced strength gains and leaned out a bit but nothing Mr. winny couldn't do. At the end I just couldn't take the damn fatigue brought on by Mr. trenace...my 2 cents.

Dont think I am going to hang out with this guy anymore.
 
william rand said:
well I just finished hanging around with Mr. trenace and I must say I was not particularly impressed. I experienced strength gains and leaned out a bit but nothing Mr. winny couldn't do. At the end I just couldn't take the damn fatigue brought on by Mr. trenace...my 2 cents.

Dont think I am going to hang out with this guy anymore.
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Hmmmmm...Im really not sure. Im on enantate week 6 500mg/week. Great strength gains, definate vascularity. Fat loss - slow, considering im on a strict keto diet. Added about 7 lean pounds of mass which is good. Tren is defo good but I get the feeling I may be slightly resistant to the effects of AAS anyway. + always been a hard gainer.

I feel I may have got better results from a clean bulking diet rather than keto. My advice to anyone thinking of running tren - diet first and get BF down, then start cycle, clean 5000 cals. Run aromasin to min water. I reckon you will be cut as hell with great lean and keepable gains.

Will post progress pics soon. Gonna start runnin Melanotan 2 for an awesome tan!
 
william rand said:
well I just finished hanging around with Mr. trenace and I must say I was not particularly impressed. I experienced strength gains and leaned out a bit but nothing Mr. winny couldn't do. At the end I just couldn't take the damn fatigue brought on by Mr. trenace...my 2 cents.

Dont think I am going to hang out with this guy anymore.
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I wonder if its the brand or the person.i never experienced fatigue and noone i know personally has either and their all on the same brand.i guess some folks are susseptable to "sides" ive been on for ever with no sides.YET!
 
I have experienced minor fatigue during the day but nothing too major and not everyday..What I really like about the tren a is immediately after inj I can feel the increased anabolic state.. I wake up in the morning, but chilly usually walk upstairs do my load and im on fire. :D
 
william rand said:
well I just finished hanging around with Mr. trenace and I must say I was not particularly impressed. I experienced strength gains and leaned out a bit but nothing Mr. winny couldn't do. At the end I just couldn't take the damn fatigue brought on by Mr. trenace...my 2 cents.

Dont think I am going to hang out with this guy anymore.
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if you didn't experience insane strength gains...

a. your trens underdosed
b. your tren isn't tren
c. your not eating enough

made my own. 1rm flat bench went from 315 to 385 in 4 weeks
 
whats up bros? anyone coughing a lot? not as in the tren cough hwile injecting but just coughing from shortness of breath. bumped it up to 75mg/eod like 2.5wks ago and am just getting the shortness of breath now
 
Yea im on day 7 at 75 mg/ed. And my lungs def feel compressed sometimes. Its a little bit harder to breathe. Not a whole lot of coughing though.
 
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P4D2A022 said:
whats up bros? anyone coughing a lot? not as in the tren cough hwile injecting but just coughing from shortness of breath. bumped it up to 75mg/eod like 2.5wks ago and am just getting the shortness of breath now
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i guess im lucky.no cough.my first time i did feel my lungs but that was it.i got two more weeks til my big show then i can clean out and rest.and ask you guys about pct because i know nothing and probably cant even get it.lol
 
whats up fellas? well for me, turns out my tren was underdosed.. very pissed to say the least. right now im cruising on some test and then im going to throw in some more tren in about 6wks. i will be making my own this time from pellets for sure
 
Dude, I'm just coming up on week 3 of this shit and I'm considering coming off. I don't know how much more of these mood swings I can take. They're so violent and uncontrollable.

I'm yelling at people and having tantrums like I've never had before. The part of my brain that normally calms me down is just amping me up more. I've done Test/Deca, Test/Eq, and Test-only up to 800/wk and it is nothing like this.

The sweating is insane, although I actually don't mind. I did a leg workout with my trainer this morning and my shirt was SOAKED all the way through. Not just wet or sweaty in a couple of places, it was soaked to the point where drops were falling off the bottom and the ENTIRE shirt was wet.

I look fucking amazing and keep getting uncomfortable compliments--the kind I love. I'm just wondering how much more of my life I should put in jeopardy in the name of beefcake-ness.

Did you guys have this heavy of a side? Did it calm down after a bit or get worse?
 
beachstud said:
Dude, I'm just coming up on week 3 of this shit and I'm considering coming off. I don't know how much more of these mood swings I can take. They're so violent and uncontrollable.

I'm yelling at people and having tantrums like I've never had before. The part of my brain that normally calms me down is just amping me up more. I've done Test/Deca, Test/Eq, and Test-only up to 800/wk and it is nothing like this.

The sweating is insane, although I actually don't mind. I did a leg workout with my trainer this morning and my shirt was SOAKED all the way through. Not just wet or sweaty in a couple of places, it was soaked to the point where drops were falling off the bottom and the ENTIRE shirt was wet.

I look fucking amazing and keep getting uncomfortable compliments--the kind I love. I'm just wondering how much more of my life I should put in jeopardy in the name of beefcake-ness.

Did you guys have this heavy of a side? Did it calm down after a bit or get worse?
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Dude, just lower the dose if it bothers you that much. Sweat is typical, I change clothes all the time on this stuff. Funny thing is that when I have sex with my gf I put a towel on her cause the sweating is so bad at times my sweat dripps off of her...LOL I usually do not do tren when its hot as hell outside, I stick with other stuff.
Overall, I can't say that it bother it me this much as you are talking about but then again I keep dosages moderate to low. In most cases these sides should slow down somewhat as you go along.
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
lets here it guys, what did you run it with, how much, how long, when did it kick in , how much you gained and was there loss in BF, how was vascularity.. this will be interesting

peace
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started trem 1cc every other day stacked with 1 cc of test 7 days ago and am just starting to get some strength and some good size starting to develop.i got 14 reps with two plates this morning after hitting 135 , 185 , 205. my concern is trem dick. can anybody comment on that...
thanks
scott
 
Varga said:
Dude, just lower the dose if it bothers you that much. Sweat is typical, I change clothes all the time on this stuff. Funny thing is that when I have sex with my gf I put a towel on her cause the sweating is so bad at times my sweat dripps off of her...LOL I usually do not do tren when its hot as hell outside, I stick with other stuff.
Overall, I can't say that it bother it me this much as you are talking about but then again I keep dosages moderate to low. In most cases these sides should slow down somewhat as you go along.
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Thanks brosef. I'm hoping that'll be the case w/me. We're talking about 50mg per day which isn't supposed to be a lot.

Maybe I've just had a string of bad days? Tomorrow's a new day and I'm going to try to start off on the right foot. Hopefully everything that's happened is just circumstantial and it's the tren that's making my reaction a little stronger than normal. Why can't it be all good news while I'm on this shit for the first time?
 
beachstud said:
Thanks brosef. I'm hoping that'll be the case w/me. We're talking about 50mg per day which isn't supposed to be a lot.

Maybe I've just had a string of bad days? Tomorrow's a new day and I'm going to try to start off on the right foot. Hopefully everything that's happened is just circumstantial and it's the tren that's making my reaction a little stronger than normal. Why can't it be all good news while I'm on this shit for the first time?
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LOL.....I hear u
Wait n see what happens, some ppl are more sensitive than others. You just the unlucky one. I bet though that once your body gets used to it is going to level out somewhat if not cut it to 25mg ed
 
When did that happen? I finished up a few weeks ago with tren.. still running 500 sust and just under 500 EQ. I was thinking about throwing it back in at the end since this is a nice 16 weeker, and mine might have been a little underdosed as well. Also, I have ace now, so im thinking i might run what i have now at 75mg EOD and then take a nice long break when this is all said and done. 6 months to a year off perhaps.. Dunno..
 
Anybody running Tren Acetate w/ Test E/C/P for longer than 12 weeks? You know those guys that never come off, any of you out there??

I read about the dude at the start of the thread but got lost about page 10..looking to talk to someone about this..
 
I woudnt run tren that long personally. There are bros that do it or have done it, so maybe someone will come out but im sure the majority will tell u not to run it that long. 6-8 weeks is plenty with tren.
 
P4D2A022 said:
beachstud, how much ya running?
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I'm running 50mg ed with 500mg Test E/wk.

Things have calmed down considerably although I still feel bitchy. Sleep has been an issue but nothing a little Ambien can't fix.

When I freaked out the other day I had just lost $10,600. It wasn't anyone's fault but mine but I took it really bad. I got all hot and sweaty, saw red, and pretty much lost control of myself. In retrospect I'm not sure my reaction would have been much different if I was off.

I'm still pissed about it--more like despondent--but the reality is it's only money. Ah fuck. I'm getting pissed again. I need to stop thinking about it!

I'm going to stay on for now. I'm dropping bodyfat like it's going out of style. My weight has gone up about 2 lbs but I've dropped probly 5-8 lbs of fat. It's a neat feeling to look in the mirror and see abs and ripples and shit.

So far I've had the opposite of tren-dick. Probably the dost, but I've never had this high a drive or sensitivity before. Unbelievable libido--probably my favorite part. I'm on .5mg Dost eod. .5mg Aromasin ed.
 
beachstud said:
I'm running 50mg ed with 500mg Test E/wk.

Things have calmed down considerably although I still feel bitchy. Sleep has been an issue but nothing a little Ambien can't fix.

When I freaked out the other day I had just lost $10,600. It wasn't anyone's fault but mine but I took it really bad. I got all hot and sweaty, saw red, and pretty much lost control of myself. In retrospect I'm not sure my reaction would have been much different if I was off.

I'm still pissed about it--more like despondent--but the reality is it's only money. Ah fuck. I'm getting pissed again. I need to stop thinking about it!

I'm going to stay on for now. I'm dropping bodyfat like it's going out of style. My weight has gone up about 2 lbs but I've dropped probly 5-8 lbs of fat. It's a neat feeling to look in the mirror and see abs and ripples and shit.

So far I've had the opposite of tren-dick. Probably the dost, but I've never had this high a drive or sensitivity before. Unbelievable libido--probably my favorite part. I'm on .5mg Dost eod. .5mg Aromasin ed.
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You guys choose Aromasin over Arimidex for the cholesterol issues right?

beachstud, you started to see the fat loss around what week?
 
beachstud said:
I'm running 50mg ed with 500mg Test E/wk.

Things have calmed down considerably although I still feel bitchy. Sleep has been an issue but nothing a little Ambien can't fix.

When I freaked out the other day I had just lost $10,600. It wasn't anyone's fault but mine but I took it really bad. I got all hot and sweaty, saw red, and pretty much lost control of myself. In retrospect I'm not sure my reaction would have been much different if I was off.

I'm still pissed about it--more like despondent--but the reality is it's only money. Ah fuck. I'm getting pissed again. I need to stop thinking about it!

I'm going to stay on for now. I'm dropping bodyfat like it's going out of style. My weight has gone up about 2 lbs but I've dropped probly 5-8 lbs of fat. It's a neat feeling to look in the mirror and see abs and ripples and shit.

So far I've had the opposite of tren-dick. Probably the dost, but I've never had this high a drive or sensitivity before. Unbelievable libido--probably my favorite part. I'm on .5mg Dost eod. .5mg Aromasin ed.
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damn dude. did u go to a casino or something or what??
 
Crysis6 said:
I woudnt run tren that long personally. There are bros that do it or have done it, so maybe someone will come out but im sure the majority will tell u not to run it that long. 6-8 weeks is plenty with tren.
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I ran it for 25 weeks. It was great.

1-4 37.5mg/day
5-8 50mg/day
9-13 75 mg/day
14-20 100mg/day
21-24 125 mg/day
 
damn. 25 weeks.. that is crazy, and now im thinkin i might just have to end off with 6 more weeks of ace. I miss it..
 
al420 said:
I ran it for 25 weeks. It was great.

1-4 37.5mg/day
5-8 50mg/day
9-13 75 mg/day
14-20 100mg/day
21-24 125 mg/day
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You didn't experience any allergic reactions? I've known people who had problems with itchiness when messing with the doses, from 50mg to 100mg EOD. Thing was it was homebrew. Btw, any problems with switching from homebrew to UG/Lab/Other Brand? Awesome work, I love when people go against the grain and succeed.

I tried to send you a pm but your box is full..

Crysis6 said:
damn. 25 weeks.. that is crazy, and now im thinkin i might just have to end off with 6 more weeks of ace. I miss it..
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Only when said out loud, there's people out there who don't come off for much much longer.
 
Yea bro, thats gotta be serious. 6 weeks changed my body, I couldnt even imagine 25. Wouldnt your receptors get used to it after running it that long?
 
al420 said:
No - Test P, and Test E, and I think some sust at one point....

i have posted these pics in this thread already, but will again for one of the above posters
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That pic of your calves looks like you got some kinda tumor haha. Good progress tho.
 
Yeah my fat is coming off.. I figure another 6 weeks and I will be closer to where I want to be BF% wise. I am not doing any cardio.. Just keeping diet locked in and training hard.
 
al420 said:
No - Test P, and Test E, and I think some sust at one point....

i have posted these pics in this thread already, but will again for one of the above posters
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Al bro , you must not get many sides or have a care-free life. Because when I am on tren I am ready to fucken kill someone for looking at me wrong, ill admit a little 420 helps calm me down but shit I feel like colossus ready to break face.

Props on being able to run it for that long, any negative sides? diet?

Edit: I am going through a breakup right now and I have stopped (tren homebrew test p)one week into it because I will seriously go to jail for my anger and I think ill wait till im mentally stable to start again.
 
I'm enjoying myself too, can't say I'm seeing anything crazy in regards to recomposition. Strength is up, legs are looking massive, in fact my jeans are ridiculous looking with how tight they are, arms are up in size.. I was really expecting to see some hardcore fat loss.. Maybe it has to do with where my fat deposits are? Lower ab, ass, love handles. Not sure i'll run it again any time soon.. Plenty of other shit to try, now that the itch is gone.
 
Burpees said:
I'm enjoying myself too, can't say I'm seeing anything crazy in regards to recomposition. Strength is up, legs are looking massive, in fact my jeans are ridiculous looking with how tight they are, arms are up in size.. I was really expecting to see some hardcore fat loss.. Maybe it has to do with where my fat deposits are? Lower ab, ass, love handles. Not sure i'll run it again any time soon.. Plenty of other shit to try, now that the itch is gone.
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What dosage? Sides? sorry if this is already mentioned. lol and get new pants bro if they are looking tight haha ;)
 
Liquid2006 said:
What dosage? Sides? sorry if this is already mentioned. lol and get new pants bro if they are looking tight haha ;)
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100mg EOD, it's a finaplex based home brew so I assume it's really more like 80mg at work, and 90mg at best. I worked the numbers for 100mg/ml @ 40ml..

Thing is i'm lean everywhere but my lower abs *LOVE HANDLES ARE SOFT AND BOUNCY* and my lower ass is pretty soft too.. My arms are lean and vascular, so is my chest, my legs are my best asset along with my traps.. I even have the top 4 abs showing and you can clearly see my obliques starting to come though..

Thing is my diet is pretty damn strict on this cycle.. I thought I would see more drastic change.. I think maybe the amount of Test I'm on is sort of causing an issue.. Maybe too much aromatization along with bloat? Dunno.. It's my first cycle and I'm loving it all so far.. Just I expected something different..
 
Burpees said:
100mg EOD, it's a finaplex based home brew so I assume it's really more like 80mg at work, and 90mg at best. I worked the numbers for 100mg/ml @ 40ml..

Thing is i'm lean everywhere but my lower abs *LOVE HANDLES ARE SOFT AND BOUNCY* and my lower ass is pretty soft too.. My arms are lean and vascular, so is my chest, my legs are my best asset along with my traps.. I even have the top 4 abs showing and you can clearly see my obliques starting to come though..

Thing is my diet is pretty damn strict on this cycle.. I thought I would see more drastic change.. I think maybe the amount of Test I'm on is sort of causing an issue.. Maybe too much aromatization along with bloat? Dunno.. It's my first cycle and I'm loving it all so far.. Just I expected something different..
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I Agree ive ran tren 2x the first time I didn't get much of bloat/aromatization at all but fucken the second time I looked bloated... bah oh well. ;)
 
The thread returns!!

I have 1 week left on tren e/ test e. Then I go on holiday for a week and start pct when im back.

results are good! Im hitting the cardio hard for the next week, on a ckd but only loading on day 5. Its been a struggle but I figure my BF is 10% or under now.

I have dropped the test from 500ew to 250 ew as I am carrying water. Will hit the diuretics at the end of the week for three days and then post up some more progress pics.

Any bro's with pics?
 
Cant give exact bro - people here estimated my bf at 15%+ at start. Im sure im around 10 now.

Dont think I lost weight from the Th=ren, I have been on a strict carb cycle
 
Hey Bros,

Heres an update on my tren e / test e cycle. Im still on a keto diet - this pic im severely glycogen depleted so will be coniderably bigger when I carb up.

Overall I figure I have gained at leat 10lbs solid muscle and dropped a lotta fat so Im happy. Next cycle will be tren/ var/ test/ mast. Ill considerably up tha cals on that one.

I started the cycle around 15% BF - I estimate now im about 10% but not sure - any comments?

My lower ab is slightly portruding, I figure this is the tren as its not like that natty, some other bro's apparently get this as well.. will let you know if it changes after PCT.

Im on holiday next week and currently loading MT2 so hopefully I will look better with an awesome tan!!

Earlier pics are in this thread if anyone wants to see.(just edited to include an old pic)

http://i30.tinypic.com/2q8r2pl.jpg OLD

http://i25.tinypic.com/2dsigif.jpg NEW
 
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Aquatic,

In answer to ur question yeah im staisfied. In retrospect its been a struggle as I have been on a keto diet and probably a calorie defecit. considering that, I thisnk the gains are great. Its hard to judge gains and hardness with no glycogen.

The addition of waxy maize has made a big ifference pwo. Also results were much better when I started doing 30 mins LI cardio PWO.

Net time Ill hit a lean bulk but start the cycle at low BF. I cant imagine what my results on this cycle would have been on 5000 cals! Or even 4000!
 
Looking good bro!


cobracock1979 said:
Hey Bros,

Heres an update on my tren e / test e cycle. Im still on a keto diet - this pic im severely glycogen depleted so will be coniderably bigger when I carb up.

Overall I figure I have gained at leat 10lbs solid muscle and dropped a lotta fat so Im happy. Next cycle will be tren/ var/ test/ mast. Ill considerably up tha cals on that one.

I started the cycle around 15% BF - I estimate now im about 10% but not sure - any comments?

My lower ab is slightly portruding, I figure this is the tren as its not like that natty, some other bro's apparently get this as well.. will let you know if it changes after PCT.

Im on holiday next week and currently loading MT2 so hopefully I will look better with an awesome tan!!

Earlier pics are in this thread if anyone wants to see.(just edited to include an old pic)

http://i30.tinypic.com/2q8r2pl.jpg OLD

http://i25.tinypic.com/2dsigif.jpg NEW
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cobracock1979 said:
Abdomen not bloated but portruding
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Yea and I have this problem before the tren..but on this shit it's bad. first thing my girl noticed on my second week "your stomach looks weird, not fat, but its like out there".. I blamed it on Chinese food. I'm not bloated at all, well a little from the Test and the sodium in my diet..nothing crazy though..
 
cobracock1979 said:
Any bro's with pics?
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Alright, here's a basic before/after. The first is a few years ago after I completed a marathon but it's about what I looked at before starting. I had shoulder surgery and was out for 6 months so this pic is about how I looked:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/Reikes/Sad.jpg

This next pic is from last week (week 7) of Tren/Test. It's a shitty pic I took after going for a run in the morning. I prob look better in my avitar from '06 because I was all pumped up from the gym and was a little leaner/better lighting, etc. This was the best I could do with shitty treo camera:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/Reikes/NewImage.jpg

I just hopped off @ week 8 and plan another 4 wks of Test/Winny. I'm kinda bummed because I'm fatter than I was at week 3-5. I just haven't been able to control my appetite and the sweats/rapid metabolism seemed to die out towards the end of the Tren. I prob should have ramped up the dosing from 50ed to 75 or 100 ed at the end but I was kind of over the rage,etc.

Tren was one hell of a ride but can't say I'll be jumping on again anytime soon. The rage was almost intolerable. I've never felt that way before and couldn't control it effectively. Libido was unbelievable, which I didn't expect. Could have been the dost I guess but WOWSERS do I like to fuck on that shit! Whew...
 
Ok ok.. you say you looked like you looked in pic Sad.jpg at the start of this 8 week cycle? Bro that is some AMAZING progress.. You look 14-15% in that first pic, you look like 12-13 in the second but with a totally different composition of muscle.

You take Adex and Dost the whole way through right?

Fuck it, I'm bumping my Tren dose up. I'm on 100mg EOD, going with 100mg ED.

Why winny at the end?
 
Yo!

Tellya what - I been on a diuretic (similar to taraxatone) last 2 days. Hit some aromasin everyday and carb loaded - I look fu*ckin awesome! Obliques are showin now. Guess I was carryin a lotta h20.

Im on MT2 as well - shit works.
 
cobracock1979 said:
Yo!

Tellya what - I been on a diuretic (similar to taraxatone) last 2 days. Hit some aromasin everyday and carb loaded - I look fu*ckin awesome! Obliques are showin now. Guess I was carryin a lotta h20.

Im on MT2 as well - shit works.
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I'm raping google for herbal diuretics.. see if I can come up with my own stack.. I can't find taraxatone in stock anywhere, and if they do have it, its like 30 bucks a bottle when most places have it for 14.. shredded looks promising, about the same ingredient profile.. think i'll just superdose some green tea, dandelion, stinging nettle, bleh, blah, etc.. :P I need to drop like 10lbs of water..
 
Burpees said:
Ok ok.. you say you looked like you looked in pic Sad.jpg at the start of this 8 week cycle? Bro that is some AMAZING progress.. You look 14-15% in that first pic, you look like 12-13 in the second but with a totally different composition of muscle.

You take Adex and Dost the whole way through right?

Fuck it, I'm bumping my Tren dose up. I'm on 100mg EOD, going with 100mg ED.

Why winny at the end?
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Yeah, I probably wasn't quite as bad as Sad.jpg at the beginning of this cycle. BTW, I had my bf% measured a week before that pic and it was 10.9%--I still have the printout--that's how little mass & defintion I had from training for the marathon (3 years ago).

Yes, I took Aromasin & Dost the whole way through. Very little of each (about 1/4 dropper Aromasin ed and 1/4-1/2 dropper of Dost 2x weekly. I don't know why Winny at the end. Seemed like a nice cutter to wean off Tren with.

Unfortunately I didn't take any pics at beginning of this most recent cyc but I had surgery and couldn't lift shit for 6 months so I was probably more a cross between sad.jpg and this one, which was taken about 6 years ago when I was all-natty:
Stud24.jpg


My favorite side-by-side is these two (unfuckingbelievable):
Sad.jpg

NotSad.jpg


Who says this shit ain't fun?

So here's the only three I have from my current Test/Tren cyc. In the last week I've cut the Tren, added Winny and really begun to cut. I'm loving the leanness and lack of roid rage from Tren. I anticipate a nice 4 week finish from here on Test/Winny so stay tuned:
Week 4:
Photo_070308_001.jpg

Week 5:
Stud16l.jpg

Week 7:
NewImage.jpg
 
beachstud said:
Yeah, I probably wasn't quite as bad as Sad.jpg at the beginning of this cycle. BTW, I had my bf% measured a week before that pic and it was 10.9%--I still have the printout--that's how little mass & defintion I had from training for the marathon (3 years ago).

Yes, I took Aromasin & Dost the whole way through. Very little of each (about 1/4 dropper Aromasin ed and 1/4-1/2 dropper of Dost 2x weekly. I don't know why Winny at the end. Seemed like a nice cutter to wean off Tren with.

Unfortunately I didn't take any pics at beginning of this most recent cyc but I had surgery and couldn't lift shit for 6 months so I was probably more a cross between sad.jpg and this one, which was taken about 6 years ago when I was all-natty:
Stud24.jpg


My favorite side-by-side is these two (unfuckingbelievable):
Sad.jpg

NotSad.jpg


Who says this shit ain't fun?

So here's the only three I have from my current Test/Tren cyc. In the last week I've cut the Tren, added Winny and really begun to cut. I'm loving the leanness and lack of roid rage from Tren. I anticipate a nice 4 week finish from here on Test/Winny so stay tuned:
Week 4:
Photo_070308_001.jpg

Week 5:
Stud16l.jpg

Week 7:
NewImage.jpg
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really coming along! congrats
 
HAYEZ said:
really coming along! congrats
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Thanks dood. I keep waiting for the comments about bodyfat%...

It's pretty hard putting pics up. I talk all this shit on here but when it comes time to post up: a picture's worth a thousand d-bols...
 
beachstud said:
Thanks dood. I keep waiting for the comments about bodyfat%...

It's pretty hard putting pics up. I talk all this shit on here but when it comes time to post up: a picture's worth a thousand d-bols...
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Looking good bud!!!
 
Man.... what a gauntlet of a thread to get though... I've been reading forever and I am loving this thread

Lets see some more update pics bros!!!
 
These are the latest updates. About 25 lbs gained, you can see im not really holding any water at all. Week 12 of a 16 week Sust/EQ/and threw back in Tren Ace in week 10 after going 5 weeks in the beginning, and ending with another 5 weeks of ace. Id have to go back into like the 40s or 50s of this thread to see the earlier pics.


14b2bn5.jpg

2lbketc.jpg

2149qba.jpg
 
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