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EPROM
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This guy uses Dbol all the time and loves his bloated look: (See Link)
lookin like a fat watery bastard isnt desired i wouldnt think...
an ai would help keep the bloat down from dbol
bloat can be controlled through diet, cardio, and AI use
ryno9000
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Ok, I don't understand how if a drug causes a side effect such as moonface/bloat how DIET can control that side effect?!?! A side effect of a drug is in fact an EFFECT of a drug, just an undesireable one. So, saying that DIET or CARDIO can control the DRUG is seemingly retarded to me. Of course diet will control how much fat you put on and cardio can reduce the fat, but BLOAT comes from the aas.
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ALIN
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using an AI and eating clean,,,drinking plenty of H2O helps greatly
yup...cardio and diet isnt going to control bloat form dbol
Barch
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I think it's more about the water retention that the gear causes as well as salt intake according to diet. So, if you take in less salt and release water in other ways (diuretics, sweat--cardio, etc.) you can keep the bloating to a minimum. Diet and cardio don't control the drug, they control the side-effects. Just like if you take certain drugs and eat certain foods (or beverages like alcohol and grapefruit juice) it can have serious side-effects or reduce the efficacy of many medications. It's actually pretty common. So, yes, side-effects, and even the drugs themselves can be effected by food and/or exercise.
aquatic_glories
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Yes , I like it
20 mg pure real dbols are God-given presents to us.
20 mg pure real dbols are God-given presents to us.
perryscoon
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Dbol sux and I consider it a noob steroid. Its liver toxic, bloats you and makes you look like shit then you shrink up when you come off.
There are much safer and more effective orals to take, i.e. Anavar and Tbol. Sure they cost more, but you get what you pay for.
There are much safer and more effective orals to take, i.e. Anavar and Tbol. Sure they cost more, but you get what you pay for.
guarded_one
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Steam Room!
perryscoon
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EPROM
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Something I noticed about almost every single muscle-enhancing element discussed here on EF. One person says, "It's 100% great!! ....Another says, "It totally sucks!!"
How can these reviews be so diametrically opposed?
It is AMAZING how the opinions on even something as basic as Dbol can result in the opposite ends of the spectrum.
I even read in a recent thread that something as basic as "Testosterone" shouldn't be recommended for a first cycle ...yet I read all the time about how it is perfect for a noob.
How can anyone make a decision on what is a good steroid to use when one post slams it and the very next one loves it?
Birdman
Good question Birdman.
EPROM
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aquatic_glories
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Yes, I definitely agree with you.
He might have used in high doses, or had less than great diet, maybe training problems , especially GENETIC differences , bodytypes etc....
Right now I wish I could tell you my results but you would think I was just talking BS. It is that good.
However, every single factor is going great for me right now. Diet, Training style , etc...
We can argue this more
He might have used in high doses, or had less than great diet, maybe training problems , especially GENETIC differences , bodytypes etc....
Right now I wish I could tell you my results but you would think I was just talking BS. It is that good.
However, every single factor is going great for me right now. Diet, Training style , etc...
We can argue this more
aquatic_glories
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I believe GENETICS and PURITY and REALITY of drugs are what makes the difference
Black Boxster
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First...really great question...I gave you some karma for that!!
IMHO..and I am not an expert.... but I think the primary reason you seen so many variables is because of training diet...alot of people are looking for any easy way out..."if I just take this magic pill I will look like this guy..." But dialing in proper training and diet is the hardest part of the equation. Clean diet, hard proper training, proper rest can make a difference if you have ok results( or no real results!) or great results!
One of the reason I believe so many members here will tell you to wait for awhile before you even try gear is to see what your are capable of doing naturally with proper training. Are you keeping a training log? a food log? If anybody answers no to the above questions they shouldn't even try gear...look for gains in strength every workout..check BF levels at least twice monthly to adjust your training and diet...get dialed in...
The bro's here are the best!!..... You want great advice on training, diet and gear, you've come to the right place!!.
ryno9000
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I'm sorry, I'm not flaming, but I don't think that is a good question. And I definatly do not think testosterone should be considered "basic."
What is a "good" steroid is as subjective as a "good" band or "good" movie. There are so many elements that can go into it, and you need to decide what is "good" for you based on your
1)experience
2)goals
3)knowledge/research of what that chemical DOES, not what someone says it does.
-not necessarily in that order either.
What is a "good" steroid is as subjective as a "good" band or "good" movie. There are so many elements that can go into it, and you need to decide what is "good" for you based on your
1)experience
2)goals
3)knowledge/research of what that chemical DOES, not what someone says it does.
-not necessarily in that order either.
got2getripped
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Well I don't agree with the notions of many, I can say that when your ready, go in with both feet. Know what your getting into and be prepared for whatever consequences or sides may come. Afterall it is your body not anyone elses.
YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!
That may include making yourself a guinea pig, cause thats what it comes down to.
cobracock1979
Member
Am Incorrect in thinking that DBol bloat is soley down to massively increased Estrogen levels? Therefore the correct dose of AI should eliminate this?
Anyway, Im on my first DBol cycle (just upped to 30mg a day) - been on for 10 days an liking it. Im leaning out
Anyway, Im on my first DBol cycle (just upped to 30mg a day) - been on for 10 days an liking it. Im leaning out
housemusik83
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Well that is because every body has different experiences and drugs has different effects on different bodies... that is why someone might say DBOL is the best oral because for them it might just be the best but for someone else that has had different experiences with DBOL might state a different opinion.
EPROM
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I'm a gun collector. On gun forums people might discuss their favorite handguns. It is understood that Glock, Beretta, and H&K make outstanding handguns. Some may comment that they like one more than another ....but you don't see, "Glocks totally suck!" followed directly with "Glocks are the greatest of all!".
Last football season you may have not personally liked the New England Patriots, but it was clearly understood that they were an outstanding football team. Nobody could write "The Patriots are the worst!
Some Americans my hate foreign car companies (like Honda) ...but you would be hard pressed to find someone writing that the Honda Civic is a piece of crap and not worth the money.
...but regarding steroids and supplements, there doesn't seem to be an understood standard on what is a good, basic, solid steroid structure that the overwhelming majority can agree is, ...well, ... "Good!".
It's like every single steroid is the "worst possible choice" or the "best of the bunch". Can't the majority on this forum agree to a standard or basic steroid plan that is considered a good universal cycle? True, we noobs can do our own research, but you walk away each day with the same miss-match on what is good or bad.
Birdman
P.S. The New PCT Therapy sticky on the PCT forum was excellent. It is something that most of you seem to agree upon and I can NOW actually (((ORDER))) something for PCT based on a consensus!
I lean out on dbol also.
partagus
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Here is my take on this. With any drug, results and sides will vary from person to person.
To get the most out of d-bol or any steroid, you need to have your diet & training dialed in. You need to have the right dosage (More mg's does not always equal better results) with the right anti-e and the right pct.
This is why we can't get a consenscious on the love/hate reletionship with d-bol and all steroids. There are too many individual factors that effect and affect each individual.
If you're going to spend the money on gear, then do it right. Do your research, have a training program worked out and your diet all set up before you start.
To get the most out of d-bol or any steroid, you need to have your diet & training dialed in. You need to have the right dosage (More mg's does not always equal better results) with the right anti-e and the right pct.
This is why we can't get a consenscious on the love/hate reletionship with d-bol and all steroids. There are too many individual factors that effect and affect each individual.
If you're going to spend the money on gear, then do it right. Do your research, have a training program worked out and your diet all set up before you start.
aquatic_glories
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All good answers
By the way,
Baretta's kick ass
By the way,
Baretta's kick ass
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lartinos
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that shit bloats me no matter what.
Side affects come with all drugs, yes. But that does not mean you will experience every side affect of said drug. Side affects are told to you because the manufactuer has to tell you by law all the side affects noticed durring the drugs trial period. As stated before, diet, cardio and training will have alot to do with how you respond to dbol, and also the dose you take daily and how you split your daily doses. I have never had a moonface from dbol, but do put on excess water weight, and also insane size and strength gains. Dbol is the only compound that REALLY attracts the attention of people around me while I am on it as I tend to get huge on the stuff. But again, the more I do, say 25mg a day compared to 45mg a day has alot to do with ow I respond to it.
I love Dbol and the pumps you get while using it. I didnt get bloat if any at all. i used 40mgs ed and i seen good results with it.
I think the defense to that argument might be that instead of arguing that a certain firearm is either good or bad, is it good or bad for a given individual? For example, I will concede that the Beretta 92FS is an excellent pistol - it is accurate and goes bang when it should. However, I do not like it for my purposes; it's large and heavy for a 9mm, I dislike the heavy double action first shot, and I don't like the way it feels in my hand generally. There is nothing wrong with the gun itself, these are just my personal feelings.
Perhaps the same can be said for steroids. No one will argue that d-bol (or whatever) doesn't work (just as a Beretta works), but people will have differing personal feelings on if they like it or not.
EPROM
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Oh yeah, some people will tell you that Glocks suck. Ask any old 1911 shooter what he thinks of them!
One 1911 guy told me what he thought of my Glock ......so I shot him.
gunslinger2
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I love the gun forums comparison. So true.
RADAR
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are you fucking kidding me psycho? my apolgies for not responding to ur post in 5 minutes
ryno9000
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Hey mi amigo know anything about 50 mg IP dianabol
I know a little bit about it. I hear its a 50mg dianabol pill. I think its made by IP. Good luck!
lmfao when i saw the post i took a double look.. couldnt belive someone would post that hahahahahah
da-stedable-hulk
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ive been training now for 4 years steds free ive just got some dianabols 5mg tabs and was just wonderin what would be the best daily intake and times to take as this is my first course of steroids
